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Passing through Jamaica today, I noticed this passenger car wasting away at the Hillside facility. It looks like it’s a P74B passenger car. This information from the Trainsarefun website: 

P74B DETAILS

Exterior:  Lightweight, arch-roof locomotive-hauled coach; large, square paired windows; diaphragms; four-wheel trucks.

Interior:  84-seat coach; 2/2 reclining seats; mechanical air conditioning; recessed incandescent lighting; full length baggage racks; four toilets.

Modernization:  2/2 reclining seats replaced with 3/2 vinyl reversible seating for 117; three toilets removed; safety chains replaced diaphragms; mechanical air conditioning replaced with undercar diesel generator; electric marker lights.

General:  Built for the Boston & Maine for general long distance service.  Cars were delivered as follows:

          ex-          Date          ex-       Date           ex-       Date

Car #      B&M      Rec’d          Car #      B&M   Rec’d           Car #   B&M   Rec’d

7521       4593       9/9/1958          7531       4602    1/23/1959     7541    4601    5/14/1959

7522       4586       9/9/1958          7532       4606    1/23/1959     7542    4614    5/14/1959

7523       4588       9/9/1958          7533       4610    1/23/1959     7543    4605    5/14/1959

7524       4585       9/9/1958          7534       4612    1/23/1959     7544    4608    5/14/1959

7525       4591       10/15/1958      7535       4613    5/2/1959       7545    4599    5/16/1959

7526       4590       10/15/1958      7536       4604    5/2/1959       7546    4607    7/18/1959

7527       4594       10/15/1958      7537       4611    5/2/1959       7547    4595    7/11/1959

7528       4589       10/15/1958      7538       4609    5/7/1959       7548    4603    7/24/1959

7529       4587       10/15/1958      7539       4597    5/7/1959       7549    4596    7/29/1959

7530       4592       9/9/1958          7540       4598    5/7/1959       7550    4600    8/11/1959

 

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Andy

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Quarter Gauger 48 posted:
Rapid Transit Holmes posted:
CHOO-CHOO MIKE posted:

What is the "Creedmore Creeper " ?

It was the name given to the passenger trains to Creedmore Psychiatric Hospital by LIRR employees.  The name "Creeper" referred to the speed the trains traveled down the branch but may have had other, less politically correct implications, as well.  The histories of the branch and hospital are quite interesting:

https://wikivisually.com/wiki/Creedmoor_Branch

http://www.trainsarefun.com/li...edmoor/creedmoor.htm

Wow, RTH, I haven't heard "Creedmoor in almost 60 years'...When I was a kid, if my friends and me, did something stupid... we would hear' Keep it up, and you'll wind up in "Creedmoor"........(LOL)  

Creedmoor, before the "loony bin," was the home of international shooting competitions. Growing up in the NYC metro area, I heard the "You'll wind up in Creedmore" used.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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This is a great thread, thank you guys for posting all this good stuff.

I moved south out of Long Island in 2003, but have lots of family up there (Bayville, Oyster Bay, Bethpage, Babylon, etc.) and spent over 4 yrs commuting from Bayville to NYC via the Locust Valley station, or Syosset/Hicksville.  My brother commutes from Bethpage to NYC every day, for around 20 yrs now.

Here's a couple pics of me at the Oyster Bay Railroad Museum https://www.obrm.org back in 2016 when I last visited.

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I lived in Bellerose (Hempstead Branch) from 1968 - 1972 and then in Freeport (Babylon Branch) from 1980-1987.  I was an almost daily rider to Penn Station where I went to work, as a conductor, on the PC, Conrail and NJT railroads.  Needles to say, I spent more than 2/3 of my life on trains - commuting on them, taking tickets or drilling them in Sunnyside Yard.  We Conductors (illegally) ran the LIRR MUs, in Penn Station, down to the block for turnaround and boarding of passengers.

Whenever I get back to Long Island to visit family, I take the train in and out of the city.

Ponz 

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Steamfan77 posted:

Paul, nice shot of that FA-1. Rich, good to see you went to the OB museum. I’m going there soon, and I’ll take some pictures. Ponz, I bet it brings back memories.

Andy

Andy,

Yes.  Good and bad. I quit the RR in 1987 after 13 years.  When St. Reagan cut the rear brake jobs my roster number took quite a big hit, then the Union lost power.

Ponz

Steamfan77 posted:

Thanks Paul, the Oyster Bay RR Museum is in the process of restoring it and making it operational. I think part of the plan is also trying to convince the MTA to install a switch and lay track to the turntable. I’d kick in a few bucks to see that happen.

Andy

If #35 is ever going to run again on Long Island they will need the turntable to be operational. Wonder if that will ever happen, it sure didn't work out with #39.

http://www.trainsarefun.com/lirr/doubledecker.htm

Rockville Centre :  The double decker is in Tuscan Red with Dulux lettering.  The cars in the distant background look like late 1940s.  Tichy color scheme began in November, 1949 and took several years for all the cars to be repainted.  

Since the transmission poles were on the north side at RVC and as they are visible in the photo, then we are looking northeast and the train is a westbound, early-morning train.  

That means that the temporary tracks, which were south of the original ROW, are NOT those tracks in the photo and the elevated camera angle was taken from somewhere else.  If these WERE the temporary tracks, then there would be signs of construction across the street where the original ROW would have been in the process of being torn up.  

This is not the case, so this is the original ROW and construction has not yet begun. . . . .. That would make the photo no later than the Winter of 1948-49 and the elimination construction has not yet begun. Al so, everyone is bundled up for the winter chill

The station and tracks were placed out of service in April, 1949 and temporary tracks and station facilities placed in service.  The elevated tracks and station were placed in service in July, 1950.
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Apples55 posted:

I must say, I was surprised when this pic showed up on my Facebook feed... I thought double-deckers were a much more recent addition to commuter fleets. The caption reads:

”LIRR MU Double-decker at Country Life Press, Mineola 1948“.

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LIRR had double-decker cars on the Babylon and Hempstead branches into the 1960s. These cars were my favorites. Used to ride them from New York Penn through Jamaica to Hempstead and Merrick. I remember them as being painted gray.

MELGAR

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Apples55 posted:

I must say, I was surprised when this pic showed up on my Facebook feed... I thought double-deckers were a much more recent addition to commuter fleets. The caption reads:

”LIRR MU Double-decker at Country Life Press, Mineola 1948“.

LIRR had double-decker cars on the Babylon and Hempstead branches into the 1960s. These cars were my favorites. Used to ride them from New York Penn through Jamaica to Hempstead and Merrick. I remember them as being painted gray.

MELGAR

Upper or lower berth???    

NYandW posted:

http://www.trainsarefun.com/lirr/doubledecker.htm

Rockville Centre :  The double decker is in Tuscan Red with Dulux lettering.  The cars in the distant background look like late 1940s.  Tichy color scheme began in November, 1949 and took several years for all the cars to be repainted.  

Since the transmission poles were on the north side at RVC and as they are visible in the photo, then we are looking northeast and the train is a westbound, early-morning train.  

That means that the temporary tracks, which were south of the original ROW, are NOT those tracks in the photo and the elevated camera angle was taken from somewhere else.  If these WERE the temporary tracks, then there would be signs of construction across the street where the original ROW would have been in the process of being torn up.  

This is not the case, so this is the original ROW and construction has not yet begun. . . . .. That would make the photo no later than the Winter of 1948-49 and the elimination construction has not yet begun. Al so, everyone is bundled up for the winter chill

The station and tracks were placed out of service in April, 1949 and temporary tracks and station facilities placed in service.  The elevated tracks and station were placed in service in July, 1950.
Archive: Jim Gillin Photo: LIRR Research: Dave Keller


#200 Riverhead, NY 08/26/2007

 

Steve;

Thanks for the history lesson - one of my favorite aspects of this Forum is the willingness of so many to share knowledge. One question... what is the “Tichy color scheme”???

Hi Paul:  LIRR Tichy Paint Scheme 1949-1955

Tichy Logo

The Tichy herald  was applied only to the passenger diesels, not the passenger equipment. (November 1949) This herald consisted of a white map of Long Island on a light blue rectangle, offset with a black rectangle giving a shadow effect.  Printed over the map was a large black “plus sign” with the letters L, I, R, R in each corner of the “plus”; these represented the four corners of Long Island served by the Railroad.

On Engines:

1.Orange pilot
2. Light slate gray paint scheme with white numbers
3. LIRR map logo
4. Block lettering

More info here on my page: http://www.trainsarefun.com/lirr/tichy/tichy.htm

 

Best, Steve

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