Locomotive for Madison Passenger Car Set

GG1

K4

x2 on the K4. I switch between my black K4 and my Tuscan red K4, they both look awesome pulling the Madison cars.

@Steve McCulloch posted:

I bought a Pennsylvania Madison Passenger Car Set. I'm curious if there are any thoughts/opinions on what locomotive would pair nicely with these four cars.

I think my set looks great behind my PostWar 2360 GG1.

I also doubled up on two of the Coach cars for a longer train

GG1, P5a modified, K4 Pacific with and without streamline shroud, 6-8-6 steam turbine.

I agree to the above replies and would add a turbine to the list. I love pulling madison cars with my 681.

All great choices. An E6 Atlantic might be an option as well.

@BlueComet400 posted:

All great choices. An E6 Atlantic might be an option as well.

+1 on an E6.  I think it would look better with 4 cars.

Pete

A LionChief Plus 2.0 GG1 or K4s would be perfect.

Jon

I concur. A Lionchief K4 is a nice piece of kit.
this one is at @JR Junction Train & Hobby in Syracuse. It has specific K4 details that I have never seen on a Lionchief loco before.



thanks!

-Mario

OR, you might even consider a venerable 675 or 671 turbine and go for that postwar vibe. CHEERS!

Thanks for all of your suggestions. You gave me a lot to think about and study to help me reach a decision. I've decided on a Lionel Pennsylvania C Liner. Have a good weekend!

@Steve McCulloch posted:

Thanks for all of your suggestions. You gave me a lot to think about and study to help me reach a decision. I've decided on a Lionel Pennsylvania C Liner. Have a good weekend!

Well, it’s your railroad and your choice, but that C-Liner isn’t exactly sensible.

Fairbanks-Morse made freight and passenger versions of its C-Liner. PRR ordered 16 A units, specifically CFA-16-4 models (with the F denoting “freight, 16 denoting 1,600 HP and 4 referring to the number of axles).

Fairbanks-Morse did produce passenger C-Liners for the US market, but those were five-axle higher horsepower units, CPA-24-5 and CPA-20-5. PRR had none of those.

Also, the “Madison” cars, more universally known as heavyweight passenger cars, were severely outdated by the time F-M began marketing C-Liners.

Why ask the forum would locomotives would go best with your Madison cars only to make a choice no one recommends?

Jim, I apologize for frustrating/irritating you and anyone else who feels as Jim does. I really do appreciate the time and thought all of you into responding to my question. I'm not a purist. I'll phrase future questions to reflect that. To answer your question, I also talked with friends here in Minneapolis and Indianapolis. The C-Liner came up during those discussions. In the end, I liked how the C-Liner looked. Thanks for taking the time to let me know your thoughts.

@Jim R. posted:

Why ask the forum would locomotives would go best with your Madison cars only to make a choice no one recommends?

Because he can. Just because someone asks the members of the forum for a suggestion doesn't mean they are obligated to follow the advise given or only consider suggestions posted here. What if he chose a loco recommended here and passed on the C-Liners his local friends recommended. Should they be ****ed about it? I don't think so. Why give someone a hard time because they didn't choose something recommended here?

@Jim R. posted:

Also, the “Madison” cars, more universally known as heavyweight passenger cars, were severely outdated by the time F-M began marketing C-Liners.

Heavyweight cars were used in both rebuilt and unrebuilt form well into the diesel era, laiter, in fact, than the C-Liners were.

@Steve McCulloch posted:

Jim, I apologize for frustrating/irritating you and anyone else who feels as Jim does. I really do appreciate the time and thought all of you into responding to my question. I'm not a purist. I'll phrase future questions to reflect that. To answer your question, I also talked with friends here in Minneapolis and Indianapolis. The C-Liner came up during those discussions. In the end, I liked how the C-Liner looked. Thanks for taking the time to let me know your thoughts.

No frustration on my part. Personally, I love the C-Liners and might make the same choice as you, without asking anyone for their ideas in the first place. That’s how I create imagined excursion trains, or beer trains hauled by a Pennsy A5 steam switcher with a caboose. The title of your post suggested you were asking for practical information, that’s all.

The only thing is, C-Liners made in O guage are full scale models that I am aware of. They will tower over "Madison" heavyweight cars. Hopefully the O.P. is aware of this. Good luck to the O.P.

The LIRR used their 5 axle C-Liners with their Pennsy style heavyweight coaches into the 1960's.