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I am looking for help on a five car set of Welz Amfleet cars I recently acquired. If you look at the attached photos, the ends of each car are somewhat warped - they do not look the way they should. In doing some research I believe these were originally Williams cars that Mr. Welz custom painted - but I am not sure. Can anyone confirm this and possibly point me in the right direction as to where I might possibly find replacement ends? Thank you for any help!

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No! Weltz Amfleet was made by Elliot Weltz himself. There are too many distiguishing featchers between a Weltz Amfleet car and a Williams Amfleet car.

It is normal that some car ends are slightly warped and/or in your case could have been warped by the heat generated from the lighted interior. There are no known parts source other than to "Rob Peter to pay Paul" or find a junker and strip it of its usable parts.

Fwiw, you MIGHT be able to bash a Williams Amfleet end into the Weltz Amfleet end. I prrsonaly have NOT tried this.

Good luck.

Fyi, I have corrected this post as I was informed Elliot Weltz is still living.

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I purchased eight un-cut 20' Weltz metro-shell/amfleet extrusions back in the early nineties in the interest of building a four car Metroliner in two-rail. I corresponded with Mr Weltz then by mail to see if the car ends were available and he indicated they were  not, so my pIan then was to get a shorty doaner, remove the ends, fit (sand) correctly/tightly to my extrusion and then use them to create a resin mold with sylastic gel. That was almost 30 years ago. Still have the extrusions and intend to get their windows milled now that I have access to the proper machine tools. I anticipate I'll only get six usable cars out of them if I'm lucky though. The new GGD's that are supposed to be released this year make all this a less compelling project though.  

Weitz vs Benson Amfleet extrusions

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It is normal that some car ends are slightly warped and/or in your case could have been warped by the heat generated from the lighted interior. There are no known parts source other than to "Rob Peter to pay Paul" or find a junker and strip it of its usable parts. Its been like that since Elliot Weltz past away last Century.

AFAIK, Elliot Welz is still living. He had a bad stroke in 2012 (which was definitely THIS century), had recovered enough to start painting again in 2013, but sold his entire painting business to Len Carparelli in 2016. Still not getting any car ends, but I believe he's still with us.

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