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Funny somehow I find myself not really being upset about it.  I'm finding I didn't really miss it.  Never did rebook my room for October. Maybe absence will make the heart grow fonder of it.  Until then I 'll spend locally and support the forum. 

If they did decide to have it I probably would have went anyways though.

Last edited by MartyE

This is probably a good decision with all that’s happening with the current Pandemic, and will hopefully allow our great medical staff time to prepare a quality vaccine to prevent more spreading. Yes, trains are Fun, however our health and others health are of the utmost importance. Sorry to hear it’s canceled, but hopefully by April 2021 We can have a safe and fun time seeing our friends, our vendors, and of course the trains. Stay safe, stay healthy, Pray Continually. Happy Railroading 

If you want the York experience, crawl under your layout or go into the closet where you store the unused items, pack them in the trunk of your car and drive around the block, maybe a jaunt on the interstate, stop at a fast food restaurant (make sure you pay too much) on October 23rd and then bring them back into the house.  You'll be surprised what you forgot you have already.  

Maybe I can finally go to York next Spring, and meet some Forumites at the gatherings.  I want to take Neal Schorr's scenic route across Pennsylvania and visit relatives, too, so, if it's again safe to travel and gather, it'll be a winner.  

Let's see, . . . 2-lane Pennsylvania, Altoona, Strasburg, Steamtown (Alcos), Philly, Palmyra, Chautauqua, Pittsburgh, and then maybe zig zagging along the Santa Fe from Chicago to Kansas City . . . that ought to be 5,000+ enjoyable miles.

@Number 90 posted:

Maybe I can finally go to York next Spring, and meet some Forumites at the gatherings.  I want to take Neal Schorr's scenic route across Pennsylvania and visit relatives, too, so, if it's again safe to travel and gather, it'll be a winner.  

Let's see, . . . 2-lane Pennsylvania, Altoona, Strasburg, Steamtown (Alcos), Philly, Palmyra, Chautauqua, Pittsburgh, and then maybe zig zagging along the Santa Fe from Chicago to Kansas City . . . that ought to be 5,000+ enjoyable miles.

Tom:

I hope that after 5,000 miles together in the car, you and Mrs. 90 would still be talking to each other when you get home to Texas.  😉

Seriously; having grown up in PA along the old PRR Middle Division, the state is a must for anyone with an appreciation for railroading.

Curt

@trestleking posted:

Shocking 

Oh yes, quite shocking.

We're finally going to have a train meet here in my region. Unless it's cancelled at the last second (or my plans change)  I'll be making the trip to Jacksonville, AR on Sept 5 with a pocket full of cash.

Of course, to offset the cost of fuel and eats to get there, you have to purchase more items so the savings from lack of shipping charges (on the Bay) make it worth your while. Example: I'll probably spend $40 to get there and back. So, I need to spend the equivalent amount in saved eBay shipping charges. It's like being able to purchase product with your shipping charges.

I've got this figured out perfectly in order to justify my spending.

Andre

@MartyE posted:

If you want the York experience, crawl under your layout or go into the closet where you store the unused items, pack them in the trunk of your car and drive around the block, maybe a jaunt on the interstate, stop at a fast food restaurant (make sure you pay too much) on October 23rd and then bring them back into the house.  You'll be surprised what you forgot you have already.  

Don't forget to put price tags on them which reflect prices from 15-20 years ago.

@Super O Bob posted:

I am going anyway.  I will park outside the orange hall and social distance.  Hope to hit some of the great hobby shops out east and enjoy a week off (I have the vacation days and need to get out of the house!).

 

See ya in April...

If you're coming as far east as Boston to visit Charles Ro, make sure you call first. They are currently still only doing mail order and curbside pick-up.

@laming posted:

Oh yes, quite shocking.

We're finally going to have a train meet here in my region. Unless it's cancelled at the last second (or my plans change)  I'll be making the trip to Jacksonville, AR on Sept 5 with a pocket full of cash.

Of course, to offset the cost of fuel and eats to get there, you have to purchase more items so the savings from lack of shipping charges (on the Bay) make it worth your while. Example: I'll probably spend $40 to get there and back. So, I need to spend the equivalent amount in saved eBay shipping charges. It's like being able to purchase product with your shipping charges.

I've got this figured out perfectly in order to justify my spending.

Andre

Andre,

The Jacksonville,Arkansas train Show is Saturday and Sunday, August 22 and 23, from 9:00 am until 4:00 pm! The meet is sold out but smaller than usual due to spacing of tables and fewer club layouts. Only a limited amount of people will be allowed in at once. I will be there helping Craig and the gang from Arkansas Traveller Hobbies! Stop by and say HI!!

Ricky

Andre,

The Jacksonville,Arkansas train Show is Saturday and Sunday, August 22 and 23, from 9:00 am until 4:00 pm! The meet is sold out but smaller than usual due to spacing of tables and fewer club layouts. Only a limited amount of people will be allowed in at once. I will be there helping Craig and the gang from Arkansas Traveller Hobbies! Stop by and say HI!!

Ricky

Wow! My friend that told me about it must have got it wrong.

It's going to be hard for the host organization to limit admittance.

If they do so with diligence, then I know I would not be willing to make the drive, then wait and wait, and not get it in, or only get in with an hour to go and the tables are picked over.

Hm. May need to reconsider.

Thanks very much for your information, Ricky. This is a new set of circumstances. I'll have to rethink my hair-brained idea of a road trip (3+ hours one way) to a train meet.

Andre

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No surprise on this October York cancelation.  Looking forward to the York show in October 2021.

Im not planning on a York in April.  There are many requirements to safely meet and probably problems that are yet to be discovered.  And the logistics of manufacturing and distributing the cure will be an enormous task.

I would love to be wrong.

@Jim 1939 posted:

That's no surprise. Did anyone really expect to see a fall show this year?

Yeah, I think a few people did. A pal of mine, who often has only passing familiarity with reality as we'd define it, was utterly flabbergasted. But this is a guy who still thinks there'll be a full season of pro/college football this fall.

I'd think most people, if they're smart, have written off every public event of any kind until well into 2021 (and frankly, I'm betting on much further than that).

@laming posted:

Wow! My friend that told me about it must have got it wrong.

It's going to be hard for the host organization to limit admittance.

If they do so with diligence, then I know I would not be willing to make the drive, then wait and wait, and not get it in, or only get in with an hour to go and the tables are picked over.

Hm. May need to reconsider.

Thanks very much for your information, Ricky. This is a new set of circumstances. I'll have to rethink my hair-brained idea of a road trip (3+ hours one way) to a train meet.

Andre

No,don't reconsider ! Just come on down! The organizer is a retired Air Force Colonel. This is the 10th show he's organized and believe me when I say it is truly a well run show with military precision. It is a large,spacious venue and everyone's safety and well being has been considered. Last year there were about 20 layouts and 190+ tables. I will personally make sure you get in! 

And then we devolve into another thread of predictions of when this cr@p will end.

How about we take it one announcement at a time?

After all, if you want to predict the ultimate doom and gloom, this could go on for 50 years or more, depending on how successful the vaccine(s) is(are). Anyone writing next April off already, what makes you think October 2021, or April 2022, or even October 2030 will be any different?

Obviously with things still like this, a decision for 2 months out was likely going to end like this.  Predicting we will be in the same exact boat 6 months from now is one heck of a lot of pessimism.

(hopefully there is not a spot for the vaccine on the shelf next to the non-existent HIV/AIDS vaccine that people have been trying to develop since the early 80's)  Of course by then, we'll have 2 to 2 1/2 generations lost since no one can safely get close to one another. 

(sarcasm/rant mode off).

 

OK....I have gotten several alerts to this thread.  It is not a thread about the virus and when/if we get one, and how it is affecting everything in our lives!  This thread is an announcement about York being called off for this fall....obviously because of the virus.  No need to discuss any other off topic comments about the virus in general.  I left this topic open but was warned I should close it.....looks like that warning was spot on.  Keep your comments about YORK....please!

I understand and believe it to be a wise decision to cancel the meet, however I seem to be having serious withdrawal symptoms.  I love shopping eBay for train items but it’s not the same as getting down at eye level to make a decision about a vintage item. Then you have the layouts and most important is the social aspect, the people you see at every show, my wife calls them “train friends”.   I don’t believe this pandemic will change any time soon, but on the bright side I have been spending more time with my trains and on the forum which softens the blow a little. 

For some time now I thought the October York would be cancelled. Taking a positive perspective, the April York might be really interesting. IMO, the "big guys" like  Lionel and MTH took over what had been a train meet. Anyone remember back when Mike was a dealer under the grandstands? With Lionel and others pulling out of the spring York, and MTH being out of the business, York may change into something quite different. It will be interesting to see what it is. I would not expect the bandit shows to return, but one never knows.

Gerry

@david1 posted:

Being Pennsylvania reside  and knowing Gov. Wolf I Predicted 2 months ago That the October York would be canceled .Also I believe The April 2021Show will also be canceled If things do not improve I think we have a better shot of Having a show in the fall Of 2021.

Dave

Agree, if many of the Governors stick to their policy of only a vaccine, add in the time for immunity to develop, most meets will be cancelled.  Buy or sell what you want now. OGR advertisers, OGR Forum, local stores. Never could understand the only York to sell things, especially when everyone that returns claims they got super deals!

@david1 posted:

Being Pennsylvania reside  and knowing Gov. Wolf I Predicted 2 months ago That the October York would be canceled .Also I believe The April 2021Show will also be canceled If things do not improve I think we have a better shot of Having a show in the fall Of 2021.

Dave

I wouldn’t get my hopes up until next October which I think is much more realistic.  It would be almost logistically impossible under the current situation to have a venue like York and be social distant when we were all use to being elbow to elbow with each other in the halls for the most part.   As much as I would like to be at York or any other train show it just wouldn’t be fun to have to be careful about how and what I do not to get sick or get anyone else sick for that matter. 

Funny; following the arrows and dealing with baby strollers doesn’t seem like that big of a deal anymore! 

@gmorlitz posted:

For some time now I thought the October York would be cancelled. Taking a positive perspective, the April York might be really interesting. IMO, the "big guys" like  Lionel and MTH took over what had been a train meet. Anyone remember back when Mike was a dealer under the grandstands? With Lionel and others pulling out of the spring York, and MTH being out of the business, York may change into something quite different. It will be interesting to see what it is. I would not expect the bandit shows to return, but one never knows.

Gerry

I agree with you Gerry. This could really change York to the "what was" that some folks like myself haven't seen being only there a few times. We will all be starved for our great train pals we've not seen in way too long. I know I'm missing some of the sellers I usually get to talk to.

Since EDTCA was going back to the 2 day format like the old days, the meet has been postponed twice now. Guess someone is sending them a message to keep the 3 day show which was to be in October 2020 and now they are having it that way for both events in 2021. 
You need 3 days to see it all, to meet, greet and see all your train friends from around the country, a key element of the York show. 
No matter who attends in the April show and only comes to the October show still does not diminish seeing your friends in the hobby. I do not buy a lot of trains any longer unless it is something I’ve been looking for, I look forward for the social aspect. 
Hope to see everyone next April. 

Last edited by Ted Bertiger

OK....I have gotten several alerts to this thread.  It is not a thread about the virus and when/if we get one, and how it is affecting everything in our lives!  This thread is an announcement about York being called off for this fall....obviously because of the virus.  No need to discuss any other off topic comments about the virus in general.  I left this topic open but was warned I should close it.....looks like that warning was spot on.  Keep your comments about YORK....please!

Clearly this isn't your first rodeo. 

Since EDTCA was going back to the 2 day format like the old days, the meet has been postponed twice now. Guess someone is sending them a message to keep the 3 day show which was to be in October 2020 and now they are having it that way for both events in 2021. 
You need 3 days to see it all, to meet, greet and see all your train friends from around the country, a key element of the York show. 
No matter who attends in the April show and only comes to the October show still does not diminish seeing your friends in the hobby. I do not buy a lot of trains any longer unless it is something I’ve been looking for, I look forward for the social aspect. 
Hope to see everyone next April. 

Spot on, Ted!

I just changed my hotel reservations (Hampton Inn, Shrewsbury) and I too saved $100.....

Peter

@MartyE posted:

If you want the York experience, crawl under your layout or go into the closet where you store the unused items, pack them in the trunk of your car and drive around the block, maybe a jaunt on the interstate, stop at a fast food restaurant (make sure you pay too much) on October 23rd and then bring them back into the house.  You'll be surprised what you forgot you have already.  

I’m rolling with laughter. You hit the Spike on the head MartyE

@Number 90 posted:

Maybe I can finally go to York next Spring, and meet some Forumites at the gatherings.  I want to take Neal Schorr's scenic route across Pennsylvania and visit relatives, too, so, if it's again safe to travel and gather, it'll be a winner.  

Let's see, . . . 2-lane Pennsylvania, Altoona, Strasburg, Steamtown (Alcos), Philly, Palmyra, Chautauqua, Pittsburgh, and then maybe zig zagging along the Santa Fe from Chicago to Kansas City . . . that ought to be 5,000+ enjoyable miles.

Great idea. Was thinking of doing the Pennsylvania part. Tough choice, as the LCCA Convention is in Scranton next year, so could do Altoona and Steamtown at that time as well.

Pat

Your right Ted it’s not so much about what stuff we want or need. Just a simple hand shake and joking around and talking trains with your buds from around the country is what I really miss right now.     Like I said before we just have to ride out the storm right now. 

Chris,

Football season is around the corner. You know the train friendship can turn ugly for the Jets/ Patriots fans. Lol!
But on all seriousness, the camaderie is what keeps our hobby the best.  

Chris,

Football season is around the corner. You know the train friendship can turn ugly for the Jets/ Patriots fans. Lol!
But on all seriousness, the camaderie is what keeps our hobby the best.  

 

I know Ted. Remember the year Marty changed the sound file on my tinplate engine to the patriots file! That was one of the times Mike showed up wearing his Dolphin’s shirt at Trainstock! 😂

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