Mi-Loco or Mi-I-Scale or 17/64 scale loco's or rolling stock Show us what you have.

Min-i- Scale or Mi-Loco.

I have a tank car of each, and parts of a box car.  I restored a K5 for Frank Thomson - sold by Maurer a decade ago.

I have this CERA freight trailer that is built to 17/64th's and somewhere I have a set of plans for it as well.

Internationals brass imported Japanese prototype electric converted to outside 3rd rail operation and a K4 pacific of unknown origin in 17/64.

Come visit the March meet 3-18th  & 19th ... I'll have old school 17/64ths on display and a short run of outside 3rd rail..... always looking for new interesting pieces

http://www.marchmeet.net/

here is a video of my Scalecraft K4   17/64ths in action

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prwn04aGsIg

Below Min-I -Scale  /Congress Tool and Die  circa 1937  Hudson in 17 64ths 

Scale Craft K4  first introduced 1934 ?  or 33?   built to 17/64ths ..but listed in flyer as 1/4" ... it towers over the Scalecraft or Lionel Hudson's  built to 1/4"

In my humble opinion 17/64th's is the way to go for O gauge  ... as it is the correct scale for the track gauge ...

To quote Lee B Green  ( Mr 17/64ths)   " Make it Perfect or Don't Make it "

Cheers Carey

Hi here are a few pictures of my Mi-loco Hudson. I really appreciate the history of Mi-loco that you have posted Carey. Thanks Will

Thanks Everyone its great to see people have an interest in Mi-Loco and Mi-I- Scale and 17/64 scale in general, I picked up some Mi-I-Scale passenger cars they might be the only ones in Australia, now Im going to be proved wrong!!!

Carey Im going out to measure, my ScaleCraft K4 you have me intrigued, I loved your video and just keep watching your Hudson go back and forth.    ( cTr....Choose the Right )

Here are few more ads etc from Mi-Loco and  Min-I -Scale

Cheers Carey

PS Any one who has a Lionel  City of Portland , Hiawatha , and the scale 0-6-0  also has 17/64ths  within your collection.    Did not you ever wonder why the Hiawatha looks down on the little 700E ?

Earliest ad for Mi-Loco  June 1935

Latest for Min-I-Scale  Nov 1938

This is based only on what I have found to date ... the window could be pushed out on both ends  with more research .

Cheers Carey

I measured the ScaleCraft K4 and just like the ScaleCraft Santa Fe Mikado its a Hybrid of scales. The body isn't 1/4 scale, its to long, but it's 4mm shy  of 17/64 scale. The frame and driver wheel base are 1/4 scale .The opposite is true of the Mikado. (cTr....Choose the Right)

These are some images of Mi-Locos K5  Im not sure about the frame on this loco, as pictured, I believe the K5 also used the same frame as the Hudson, but to different frames may have been used.  These images are mostly taken from models that have come up on ebay from time to time   ( cTr...Choose the Right )

Really nice photos of the K5.  I am gong to light off the big computer and see if I can post a K5.  The one I did had aluminum superstructures, and cast iron main frame and drivers.  Elegant, when finished.

I believe these two were the major suppliers of 17/64 scale.  I note that both call it "17/64 Scale, O Gauge".  That is the way I have always heard it described.

Lionel did the UP Streamliner in 17/64, and about half the Adams Diesels are 17/64.  I believe the Williams PRR steam switchers were also 17/64.

Interesting to see these attempts to gain popularity for use of the more correct 1:45 scale for O gauge in the US years back.

I guess the Minton Cronkhite demonstration of using a correct scale to gauge ratio has had long term effect with the alternatives of changing either the gauge or scale popular at various times.

Bob  I think my interest is nostalgic in nature, but that extra 5% in size is quite attractive. I think I would say that the mass of a locomotive and its rolling stock, in the real thing, is part of the attraction that leads to the hobby itself. So bigger is always better, but we all have our restraints right ? Here's a loco I bought  that I believe was built from this article and of course it is 17/64 scale as many of Mel Thornburghs articles where. Thanks to those who posted pictures of models other than Mi-Loco or Mi-n-Scale.    (cTr...Choose theRight )

Big computer - we shall see . . .

This is 17/64 scale, O Gauge. It is all brass except for cast iron drivers, and motor/gears.  It was my third attempt at scratchbuilding, and has won prizes.  Main frames are red art bronze castings from Lobaugh Challenger parts; tender truck side frames were cast from my masters by my father, who was teaching art casting in Tucson at the time.  Runs like a watch, fits the track, and has illuminated class lamps.

That is the first photo I have posted here since the format change.  Apparently the new format is not compatible with the iPad.  I discovered that I could snatch images from my files on this horrible Microsoft 10 computer when Photobucket became impossible to deal with, so now you again get to put up with my photos.  The MiLoco K5 is a print, so I shall have to get it scanned.

Bob   I never get tired of seeing images of your loco's and especially cab forwards. Don Beeman was another scratch builder like yourself that modelled to 17/64 scale. I remember a Pennsylvania T1 with a six wheel trailing truck like the Pennsylvania steam turbine. I wonder what happened to his scratch built loco's O! And he had modified and supper detailed Mi-n-scale passenger cars.      (cTr....Choose the Right)

That is a very nice job on the articulated Bob2

regards

 BobC

Hope I am not overwhelming you - here is a locomotive in 17/64 scale, O gauge 3-rail, done for O Gauge Railroading magazine in the early 1990s:

Bob    It reminds me so much of the HO Round House loco I still have.

Carey     I made more measurements on the ScaleCraft K4, the boiler diameters are right on for 17/64 scale, if you lengthened the fire box 11mm at the cab end, and puled the cab back 4-5mm the whole thing is spot on 17/64th.  Its like ScaleCraft changed its mind on scales. The frame is 1/4 scale but the cylinders are okay for 17/64th.    ( cTr....Choose the Right )

It was measured off the Roundhouse HO model.  The first one was 2- rail, and took four days, measuring to running.  I have since built three more, an am aware of three having been built by others following my article.