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Too few people understand that the sounds come first and the spelling--often imperfectly--comes afterwards.  For one thing, there are 40 or 42 discrete phonemes in the English Language, but there are only 26 letters in the alphabet (and 3 of them are more-or-less useless).  For another, pronunciation changes as the years pass, but spellings tend to fossilize.  Finally, the vocabulary of Modern English stems from a large variety of languages, many of whom have entirely different phonetic/phonemic patterns.  And the icing on the cake is that different dialects of English change in different ways at different times (though modern broadcast media are leveling the process somewhat).

superwarp1 posted:
OGR CEO-PUBLISHER posted:

Just be nice guys...already have had an alert....

Really, some people need to give it a rest and you can report me if your that vain.

How about Worcester Mass.   Is it WOR-Cester or is it WO-R-cester.  Only us who live in mass know for sure and the end of the line on the old B&A now CSX.

I always thought it was: 

Paak da ca  in Wooosta, 

Take da train ta Havad Yad.

Number 90 posted:

What's the correct pronunciation for the Monongahela Railroad?

In Monongalia County you will find the Monongahela River that passes between Morgantown & Westover, West Virginia.

As stated above Monongahela is pronounced Muh-non-ga-hay'-luh.  Monongalia would be pronounced like Muh-non-ga'-le-a.  I live in western Pa., so I have a bunch of words that are messed up.

D.

Hartman posted:
Number 90 posted:

What's the correct pronunciation for the Monongahela Railroad?

In Monongalia County you will find the Monongahela River that passes between Morgantown & Westover, West Virginia.

As stated above Monongahela is pronounced Muh-non-ga-hay'-luh.  Monongalia would be pronounced like Muh-non-ga'-le-a.  I live in western Pa., so I have a bunch of words that are messed up.

D.

what're yinz talkin abaat?

hokie71 posted:

Can't believe this one has not come up yet: how is Norfolk and Southern pronounced?  

(Of course you know that there is actually no "and".)  I keep hearing it pronounced Nor-fork-n-Southern by my fellow Texan railroaders, including many who have a lot of education.

In Virginia, they surely pronounce it differently.

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Number 90 posted:

(Of course you know that there is actually no "and".)

There used to be: History of the Norfolk & Southern

"Owners of the EC&N soon formed plans to extend the line southward. They changed the name of the company to Norfolk Southern Railroad Company on February 1st, 1883 to indicate this. The company entered receivership in 1889 and emerged as the Norfolk and Southern Railroad Company in 1891. At the same time, the Ablemarle and Pantego Railroad became part of the new company. That railroad ran from Mackey's Ferry, NC (now known as Mackeys) through Pantego to Belhaven, NC. It also operated a ferry service from Mackey's Ferry across Albemarle Sound to Edenton, where it connected with the N&S."

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smd4 posted:
Number 90 posted:

(Of course you know that there is actually no "and".)

There used to be: History of the Norfolk & Southern

"Owners of the EC&N soon formed plans to extend the line southward. They changed the name of the company to Norfolk Southern Railroad Company on February 1st, 1883 to indicate this. The company entered receivership in 1889 and emerged as the Norfolk and Southern Railroad Company in 1891. At the same time, the Ablemarle and Pantego Railroad became part of the new company. That railroad ran from Mackey's Ferry, NC (now known as Mackeys) through Pantego to Belhaven, NC. It also operated a ferry service from Mackey's Ferry across Albemarle Sound to Edenton, where it connected with the N&S."

Yes, interesting history but, that doesn't have anything to do with the current Norfolk Southern, which was a result of the merger between the Norfolk And Western Rwy and the Southern Railway.

Hot Water posted:
smd4 posted:
Number 90 posted:

(Of course you know that there is actually no "and".)

There used to be: History of the Norfolk & Southern

"Owners of the EC&N soon formed plans to extend the line southward. They changed the name of the company to Norfolk Southern Railroad Company on February 1st, 1883 to indicate this. The company entered receivership in 1889 and emerged as the Norfolk and Southern Railroad Company in 1891. At the same time, the Ablemarle and Pantego Railroad became part of the new company. That railroad ran from Mackey's Ferry, NC (now known as Mackeys) through Pantego to Belhaven, NC. It also operated a ferry service from Mackey's Ferry across Albemarle Sound to Edenton, where it connected with the N&S."

Yes, interesting history but, that doesn't have anything to do with the current Norfolk Southern, which was a result of the merger between the Norfolk And Western Rwy and the Southern Railway.

I never said it did.

dkdkrd posted:
Richie C. posted:

And in Mass don't forget Peabody and Woburn.

Yepper.....and my Brother-in-Law is from Athol, Mass.!   

He has a lot of fun with that among his friends down in Foriduh ...where "Venice" (home) is, thankfully, pronounced consistently well....even by Canadians and Canadiens.

Actually, I was born in Athol about  - #$^())dh(*^$# - years ago (well, in the early '50's) and we moved out when I was 12.

Small world - was your B-I-L born there ?

J Daddy posted:

Well let us not forget these: 

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Bucyrus... built in Bucyrus Ohio...

And the Cuyahoga RR

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And Schenectady NY...

 

 

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Worcester Massachusetts: 

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Kissimmee, Florida:

 

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And let us not even talk about Towns and cities in Hawaii !

 

Times up !

 

1) Bew Ci Rus  Ohio

2) KY- ya -HOH - ga    Ohio

3) SKa Neck ta ti  New York

4)  Wuu - ster Massachusetts

5) Kas sim mee  Florida

Living in a major metropolitan broadcasting area, what can be even more surprising is sometimes hearing tv and radio personalities who are obviously transplants to the area, mispronouncing some of our local rail lines commuter stops. As professionals, it's hard to believe they wouldn't check such pronounciations beforehand since they're most likely aware that not all names can be pronounced phonetically, especially since here in S.E. Pennsylvania, many are names derived from various American Indian tribes who populated the area. At times, even the voices in GPS units mispronounce some street names and towns.

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I live near Rolla, MO:  that's Rah-Luh, thankyouverymuch ;-)

It is actually named after Raleigh, NC, which, when some of the original settlers in this area departed there to come here, was pronounced the same way, inherited from the English (as in England English) pronunciation.  But they warnt gud spellerz.

Andre, maybe I was wrong about Worcester.  It could be "Wister" instead of "Wistah".  As a lifelong Central MA resident, I can tell you for sure Worcester ain't pronounced "Wuuster",  "Wooster" or "Worchester" (at least, in "these parts").

Here's another brain teaser for you Forum members.  How do you pronounce the name of the town immediately West of Worcester, Leicester?

John

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