Modeling idea: Vintage railcar for the early 50s! "Evans Autoloader"

 

Here is a car very seldom seen on 1950's era model railroads. I intend to scratchbuild an O scale model for use when I am operating early F3 diesels and GPs.  These cars were about 50 foot in length since they allowed 3 autos per level (having a length of about 198 inches each).  See the 1953 Chevrolet Bel Air photo.

 

These predated the 89 foot double and triple "autoracks" in use today.

 

What car model/make/year automobile (brands) are shown being transported? One of them looks like a 1953 Bel Air!

 

  

EvansAutoLoader

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1954_Chevrolet_Bel_Air_2.-Door_HT 197 inches in length

 

1953 Chevrolet Bel Air

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I want to build a few too. I thought someone made a 'scale' version,,,,but I scratch built some 80 ft open auto racks.....these will go good as a then and now example.

 

Cars bottom front to back......

53 Chevy

53 Nash

53 Ford...can't tell trim level

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53 Hudson Hornet

53 Kaiser  can't really tell...but looks likeone

53 Chrysler of some type....maybe Plymouth.

"53 Kaiser  can't really tell...but looks likeone

53 Chrysler of some type....maybe Plymouth'

 

   Those last two on top are hard to see. The middle one looks like  a plymouth cranbrook judging by the chrome trim on the rear window pillar. and the far one has 53 packard type chrome dots on the rear fender?  

   Athearn made these Evans Auto loader cars in HO long ago and I recall seeing an O-27 or toy like O version somewhere....DaveB 

Originally Posted by AMCDave:

 

 

Cars bottom front to back......

53 Chevy

53 Nash

53 Ford...can't tell trim level

Top

53 Hudson Hornet

53 Kaiser  can't really tell...but looks likeone

53 Chrysler of some type....maybe Plymouth.

All but the last 2 on top.

 

Hudson followed by a Dodge 2 door followed by Packard convertible.

 

I believe we were on the same topic not 2 months ago.

 

Bruce

Completely designed with your mind in mind.

The K-Line car is nearly scale length but somewhat narrower. It isn't especially well detailed, but it looks OK in a train going by. 

 

The biggest problem in building an Auto Loader in 0 scale is finding correct period cars that will fit it. 0 scale autos are almost all 1:43 rather than 1:48, and six full-size 1:43 cars won't fit on a scale Auto Loader. I'm not aware of any early 50's cars in 1:48. That leaves K-Line's solution of filling it with Corvettes or T-Birds. I filled my K-Line car  with 1:43 Eligor '62 Corvairs, which are somewhat anachronistic but not too bad. At least they fit. 

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Originally Posted by artyoung:

Pro hobby:  I'm pretty sure someone (probably K-Line) made a six-car Evans already.

Here is some information found elsewhere on the OGR forum: K-Line model shown.

 

The 6 car Evans Auto Loader was built by Evans for the New York Central. The superstructure was mounted on a standard 53 foot NYC flat car. This unique prototype carried two more autos than could typically be loaded in a boxcar and one or two more than could be handled by the highway carriers of the day. While the 6 car Evans Auto Loader represented progress toward the future and inspired a popular post war toy train car it never reached the full production stage. K-Line produced a full sized replica of the Evans Auto Loader as their K694.

 

Here are two more made by Lionel in the last decade.  One has 1958 Dodges and the other two late Fifties Cadillacs and, strangely, two "indeterminate" woodies.  They kind of resemble 1949-51 Fords on the side, but the front end is definitely not that - looks more like a foreign car to me.

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By searching OGR forum for Evans Auto-Loaders I found this old post.  I have two Lionel 6 car Evans Auto-Loaders, they are Lionel 9125, N & W Trailer and Train Auto-Loaders, saying Built 1-73. 

They will hold 6 cars but the bottom deck is 1 1/2 inches wide, 1 3/8 inches high and the car body is 12 7/8 inches long.  The bottom will only hold smaller cars.

 The older Lionel 6414 Evans Auto-loader will hold 4 cars and the bottom deck is 2 1/4 inches wide, 1 1/2 inches high and the car body is 10 inches long.  So the K-line 6 car Auto-Loader now has company.  It appears the K-line and Lionel 6 car bodies are different.

The Lionel 9125 is almost 3 inches longer that the Lionel 6414 and looks that much longer on my O27 curves !

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Charlie

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If you have to haul more cars, you might consider this one, Lionel 6-16208.

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pro hobby posted:

These cars were about 50 foot in length since they allowed 3 autos per level (having a length of about 198 inches each). 

 

  

EvansAutoLoader

 

Actually, it's "this car."  Only one was built.

Santa Fe and UP had their own versions of a similar car, but they weren't the same as the NYC experiment.

Rusty

Uh...that ain't no '53 Chevy BelAir!  It is a 1954 Chevrolet BelAir!  I learned to drive in my mother's 1954 210, so l know what one looks like.  I went on to make several trips west in it in the 1950's, and then my brother used that 210 through college.  

??Another one of THOSE!!??  What you want to sell is not what I want to buy!

Scotie posted:

attachmentAn open auto loader filled with Corvair coupes. The one in the front is the last one built--fifty years ago today.

 

Actually, the freight cars seem to be filled with Novas; that is indeed a Corvair Coupe in the foreground, a beautiful car, and that from a guy who has never been a bow-tie fan, nor has ever owned one. But, a rear-engined, alloy flat-6, air-cooled ChevyPorsche? Cool. And shocking, from GM.

Ralph Nader was full of it, BTW.

K-Line is the only one I know of that built one to-scale. I have the NYC car with the Corvettes (which I'm going to 2-rail at some point), and NYC was the only one who had them. I believe K-Line did a couple of "fantasy" units in other roads. The drawings are out there on the web, which is where I got the ones below in case you want to roll your own. Contact me off-list if you want the full set (it'll save you the search).

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palallin posted:

"Rack 'em, stack 'em, and pack 'em!"*

I suppose the fluids were drained before shipping

 

*Die Hard II

Haha surprisingly, no.  GM designed the Vega to be able to withstand vertical transport.  Interesting short read on this shipping partnership between GM and Southern Pacific can be found here:  https://www.railwayage.com/mec...-pacific-vert-a-pac/

Since the Vega was intended to be a low cost / low price vehicle, they designed the Vert-a-Pac (and the Vega) to increase the number of cars fitting onto a rail car from 18  to 30 in order to reduce shipping cost per car.

 

pro hobby posted: 

  

EvansAutoLoader

 

 

 

1953 Chevrolet Bel Air

That building in the background looks far, far more interesting than the freight car! Any idea where/what it was/is? It almost looks like a WW2 era industrila facility.

Later Gator,

  Dave

 

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Heading to Gatow with a load of coal.
......Anonymous U. S. pilot during the Berlin Airlift

Evans designed/built the loading setup for the automobile box cars. The setup on the flat car appears to be based on the mechanicals used in the box cars. What's interesting is that they also included bridges on the cars so that a string of cars could be loaded from one end. That may have been the impetus for the design considering the hassle factor in loading auto box cars.

Matt Jackson
"The best service you can provide for the hobby is to pass on what you have learned."

 Angels Gate Hi-Railers San Pedro, California

"Celebrating over 20 years of moving freight and passengers from Point A to Point A!"
E-mail

YouTube Channel

AMCDave posted:

I want to build a few too. I thought someone made a 'scale' version,,,,but I scratch built some 80 ft open auto racks.....these will go good as a then and now example.

 

Cars bottom front to back......

53 Chevy

53 Nash

53 Ford...can't tell trim level

Top

53 Hudson Hornet

53 Kaiser  can't really tell...but looks likeone

53 Chrysler of some type....maybe Plymouth.

The last car on top looks like a packard convertible.

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