Alan Nelson ("AlanRail" on the OGR Forums) 3-d printed the footings for me. I'm very happy with how they turned out.
@Apples55 posted:I did a quick internet search and found a picture of the long abandoned 18th St. station which showed the footings for the columns.
If you could post the pic or a link to it I'd appreciate it. I'm trying to invoke the look of the early IRT stations and I'm always looking for pics of them. Thanks.
Joe;
@AlanRail certainly did a nice job on those footings!!!
The pics indicate that they may be subject to copyright, so here are two links to some pics from the early days of the Subway.
https://ephemeralnewyork.wordp...reet-subway-station/
https://forgotten-ny.com/2012/...-postcards-part-2-2/
And if you REALLY want to model a spectacular station
Great links and photos. Also thanks to Steve Markowitz for sending me some links.
The colorized photo implies the original color of the columns was brown. However, I have also seen photos of green columns in later years. One thing I've learned in modeling these stations is that there appears to be a precedent for just about anything you can imagine. So I'm leaning towards the same rich dark green that I used for the 42nd Street station module, because I like it more.
I agree that if someone ever models the City Hall Station, that will be a pinnacle in subway modeling! And gap fillers are not required, since the station never had them and only end doors opened on the cars in that station.
Joe;
If you do a search on the tile work in the original stations in lower Manhattan, you will find they used a lot of browns, greens, and blues, so I think that either of your suggestions would be great. I know I shared these pics of my paintings based on actual original subway tiles somewhere recently…
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I have a draft station tile sign and medallions for the station wall:
The medallion is based on artwork by Ana Santiago, a Puerto Rican artist.
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Fabulous, Joe. Your draft looks like it was designed by Heins & LaFarge!!!
It was. 😁 (mostly). It's the sign on the wall of the old northbound Times Square local platform that was visible in the Times Square - Grand Central shuttle area until recently. That part of the station is undergoing some serious work now and is walled in by construction barricades. I hope they preserve it.
Joe, I fell a little behind. Your platform work is incredible. That's gonna be one very nice station.
Paul, 14th and Union Square, did someone say Paragon Sporting Goods? Also did you say you painted those mosaics or did I misunderstand?
@West Side Joe posted:
Here are photos of the real thing…….well done!
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Gap fillers finished. I can finally move on to the platform columns.
All I can say is wow !!
First row of holes drilled for platform columns. Columns inserted temporarily to test fit to footings.
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For my sidewalk subway entrance I was planning to kitbash the Lemax subway kiosk (needs alteration as the proportions are not right) with the Modeltechstudios generic O scale vintage subway entrance kit (too wide). It bothered me that the resulting entrance in O scale would overpower my 9" wide street scene above the station. Then I came across this 3d printed "S" scale exact replica of an IRT entrance kiosk on Shapeways, and realized it is perfect for the limited space I have. S scale can work well on an O scale layout in the right circumstances.
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@West Side Joe posted:For my sidewalk subway entrance I was planning to kitbash the Lemax subway kiosk (needs alteration as the proportions are not right) with the Modeltechstudios generic O scale vintage subway entrance kit. It bothered me that the resulting entrance in O scale would overpower my 9" wide street scene above the station. Then I came across this S scale exact replica of an IRT entrance kiosk on Shapeways, and realized it is perfect for the limited space I have. S scale can work well on an O scale layout in the right circumstances.
It certainly can, great find and nice work!
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Joe
The pillars look great !!!!
@West Side Joe posted:
This is by far no criticism at all, but the third rail is on the wrong side. The third rail at all subway stops is always on the track, side or center of the roadbed. Unless of course it’s an express stop, or a station in a turn.
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Or in those stations that have a platform on either side of a single track (which will come in handy at the end of this post). I totally agree with your point. I plead extenuating circumstances:
The layout is a module that connects with two other ones, all of them the same size. On the other modules (a tunnel and an express stop) I've placed the single track on the edge away from the viewer (the "back"). Since this module was a local station, I routed the track from the connection with the other modules, to the "front" so the viewer could see the station from the platform edge all the way to the back wall, which I hope to embellish with the beautiful tile work and station signing of the original 1905 IRT stations. But the s-curve geometrics of the Lionel tubular track placed it so close to the front edge that there was no room left for the third rail at the front.
So knowing that when necessity rears its head (such as at the station illustrated in the link below) the third rail can be located under the platform edge, I throw myself on the mercy of the court.😁
@West Side Joe posted:Or in those stations that have a platform on either side of a single track (which will come in handy at the end of this post). I totally agree with your point. I plead extenuating circumstances:
The layout is a module that connects with two other ones, all of them the same size. On the other modules (a tunnel and an express stop) I've placed the single track on the edge away from the viewer (the "back"). Since this module was a local station, I routed the track from the connection with the other modules, to the "front" so the viewer could see the station from the platform edge all the way to the back wall, which I hope to embellish with the beautiful tile work and station signing of the original 1905 IRT stations. But the s-curve geometrics of the Lionel tubular track placed it so close to the front edge that there was no room left for the third rail at the front.
So knowing that when necessity rears its head (such as at the station illustrated in the link below) the third rail can be located under the platform edge, I throw myself on the mercy of the court.😁
Not at all, it’s still well done and spectacular.
Actually, at the ends of the module the third rail is on the correct side of the tracks, but as the track begins to curve the third rail switches to the "wrong" side.
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Laying out the station wall outline. The fare zone and the stairs to the street will be in the large middle area.