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 I recently purchased a new Proto 3 switcher. My first MTH steamer in a number of years. My last switcher was a Legacy 0-8-0. I kept it but was very disappointed in it's performance. I already had 2 MTH versions. Proto 2's from years ago. Was glad to see the latest version has 3 pickup rollers. 2 on the engine. 1 on the tender. The plan was to re letter it into a Rutland. The Bessemer & Lake Erie fit the bill with it's white edged running board. The Rutland only owned two 0-8-0's. Both ex NYC's. Wished the tender had the lower bunker. But I got it at a good price and on my RR. Close enough is good enough.

 One thing MTH has over Lionel is the fine details. Whistle and bell chords. Chains on the tender trucks. Much better looking cab figures and cab curtains. Lionel has a nice round boiler you can see under and better sounds. In a yard switcher though. The sounds on the MTH are fine just doing switching moves. In fact. For switching operations. I prefer the feel of the DCS remote. Everything under both shells as far as board placements and wiring was very user friendly and neatly done.

 Adding Kadee's was a breeze. Brackets are provided and are dead on for coupler height. The tender one went on easily. Remove the shell. Disconnect the couplers plug and 2 screws remove the coupler mount. I used the provided MTH hardware. It takes about 5 minutes for the changeover. I did substitute a longer 2mm screw for the couplers center mount. The ones they provide a just long enough for the 2 outside mounts. The raised center portion of the Kadee box requires a 2mm X 8mm to secure it.  The front involved removing the shell and disconnecting the harness. Remove the e clip, washer and spring. Remove the 2 screws holding the cylinders. Move them around enough to access and lift out the coil couplers T pin. I ended up unsoldering the 2 wires on the coupler. The chassis hole is to small to fish the plug through. Re tightened the cylinders and flipped the chassis over. Used the 2 short screws and provided bracket and couldn't get the screws to catch. These are the same holes that hold the cylinders on. They weren't tapped all the way through. My biggest fear was breaking a tap off in the chassis. After some trial and error. I figured out it was 4-40. I backed out the cylinder screws. I put a few drops of oil on the tap and it actually went in easily and did the job. Luckily the mounting screws are very short and only need a few threads. If yours is like mine. Just put enough threads in to hold the mount tight. A bit of a snag. Still much easier than making up brackets. GOOD job MTH.

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Tom, MTH provides 3 screws to secure the coupler to the mounts. They only catch by a few threads. The 2 outside screws were probably enough to secure it. The middle mount with it's raised portion. The  provided 3rd screw isn 't long enough. I just added a longer one. I tend to overbuild everything.

 Gray, I have 2 earlier Proto 2's. The first is probably similar to yours with the 3 rollers. Pretty much stall proof. The next version had 2 rollers on the tender. Nothing on the engine. Never really had stalling issues with it. It seems like they went back to the original design.

 I've been running this engine a lot lately. It's quickly becoming one of my favorites.

Congratulations Dave, nice weathering job!   I'm glad you like your new loco.

I'm curious about your comparison with the Lionel.  Fine details can be added, but any chance of posting side-by-side pics so I can see what you're talking about regarding the round boiler, etc.?  Not all of the Legacy 0-8-0s had operating issues, only the very newest ones that used back-EMF instead of an optical sensor for speed control.

Thanks again for sharing!

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The reason I'm looking for part numbers is the truck is the same as the USRA light Mikado.  My Mike's have stalling issues over Atlas #7.5 switches.  An additional roller solved this, but I had to fab a mount and use brand L parts.

If I could find the MTH part numbers, all would be much easier. 

You would never guess, but the MTH 44 ton GE has a pickup spacing 0.125 longer than the Mike.

Gray Lackey

BTW, your repaint looks awesome.

 

 Ted S,  the round boiler on the Lionel is actually 2 pieces. The lower half sits above the chassis and houses the electronics. The shell sits on top of it giving the look of a round boiler. What this does is let you see air between the boiler and chassis like the prototype. The picture below shows this as you can view the road through the model. The MTH shell just sits on the chassis. Doesn't  look as good in my opinion but it is way more user friendly to work on.

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 I have 6 , 0-8-0's on the roster. 3 from each. They all get run probably as much as my road engines. The B&A pictured above is a repaint from the last Lionel run. Not a great runner but it does the job. I did add some details. Cab curtains made from tea bags [MTH comes with them]. I also boxed the coupler in with some brass stock and added an air hose. I'm not a fan of Lionel's cab figures and added some from Arttista. IMG_0161

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 For sound. Lionel wins hands down. While I like the look of the full round boiler. The MTH is much friendlier to remove the shell on. Although the new Lionel with the back EMF is much less cluttered than the previous Legacy version. Performance isn't the same. Smoke output if your into that. Still goes to MTH as well as having a little better detailing. I've also come to like running my switchers with the DCS remote. Sometimes it comes down to price. The MTH I picked up for 200 less.

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