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(hi for my first post here after looking as a guest for a long time?)

 

I was just wondering if anyone had one of these and could comment on it? I'm curious about using it as a simple way to control one train on the floor without worrying about the limit of a fixed-position transformer. and yep I pretty much have zero plan for any kind of track accessories

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I have one but hardly use it anymore now that I have the full DCS system.

 

Mine works fine and does everything I want from an engine.  If you're only going to run 1 engine at a time and don't care for things like crew talk or the ability to turn some sounds on/off or check status of things like running time/distance of an engine, then go for it.

 

It let's you perform the basic controls (forward/reverse/speed) of an engine and gives you bell/horn/whistle.

 

You have to more or less point the handheld in the direction of the receiver, but it's a wide beam, kinda like your TV remote.

 

I've been using mine on a piece of test track I have.

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I have one too and my comments basically echo Bob's.  I like it for small setups but it sees little use now that I have a dcs.  If you have been running a ps2 or ps3 conventionally you will be amazed how slow they can go with remote.  The coupler control is very reliable. I had some trouble getting accustomed to the slow accel/decel rates.  Also you have to learn to point it in the general direction of the receiver, not at the moving train.  Simple to use, quick to learn.  

Note - if your dcs engine has been used on a dcs controlled layout you will need a factory reset to clear out the engine address.  The remote commander only works with engines with the default address of #1.  If there is a different address in the locomotive it will just sit there. 

In short, great way to get more out of your loco for a small investment. 

Howdy,

 

I have two that came with the RTR Sets.  They do what the manual says they will do.  However, I had one of the engines that came with the RTR Set that absolutely refused to respond to the IR remote.   Brian my favorite MTH Technician at my favorite dealer (Stockyard Express LLC), kindly did a factory re-set twice and the engine still wouldn't work with the IR remote.   I  now have the DCS System and everything works flawlessly.  BTW both of the IR Controllers that came with the RTR sets are back in the set boxes and on the shelf.  Just Sayn'

 

Chief Bob (Retired)

Originally Posted by rural dragon:

... a simple way to control one train on the floor without worrying about the limit of a fixed-position transformer

As long as your one train is MTH PS2/3, I'd say it's the best value alternative to fixed-position.  Since it works with AC or DC, you have a lot of options on power sources. As I see it, before command-control, for decades O-gauge got along just fine thank you with forward, reverse, and whistle/bell with a fixed-position variable voltage transformer. The Remote Commander does all these without the fixed-position restriction and with a fixed-voltage (less expensive) power source.

 

If you "do" eBay there is a reasonably brisk market for these so you can buy, try, and re-sell (if you don't like it) for not much net out-of-pocket.

thanks for your side on this stan2004 but I've already came to realize that it might be better to just buy the complete dcs kit especially in case the floor-running train eventually turns into an actual train layout or something to that effect

 

and beside playing around with the smoke effect independent of the throttle may be a good bit of humor especially if someone thought the train was sitting dead

I have a brand new never used IR and when i apply power the green light does not come on, and there is no power to the rails, any suggestions will be appreciated. I have three of these units non power up???It is the pre 2001 model, it is a lock on type with a power cable from a 1000 watt transformer. all three are this type

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@Woody18655 posted:

I have a brand new never used IR and when i apply power the green light does not come on, and there is no power to the rails, any suggestions will be appreciated. I have three of these units non power up???

What unit?  Are you still talking about the MTH 50-1033?  There is no green light on it.

50-1033 | MTH ELECTRIC TRAINS

If you're talking about the MTH 50-1012 RailKing IR Remote Control System, how exactly are you trying to get it to function?  Note that it also doesn't have a green light.

USED MTH RailKing 50-1012 Infrared Remote wo/box

What unit?  Are you still talking about the MTH 50-1033?  There is no green light on it.

50-1033 | MTH ELECTRIC TRAINS

If you're talking about the MTH 50-1012 RailKing IR Remote Control System, how exactly are you trying to get it to function?  Note that it also doesn't have a green light.

USED MTH RailKing 50-1012 Infrared Remote wo/box

He said 2001. They had these in 2001?? I thought they came out later in sets. Apologies for lack of knowledge, I have been "out of it" for awhile. Greg

@Woody18655 posted:

I have a brand new never used IR and when i apply power the green light does not come on, and there is no power to the rails, any suggestions will be appreciated. I have three of these units non power up???It is the pre 2001 model, it is a lock on type with a power cable from a 1000 watt transformer. all three are this type

You do know there is a manual reset circuit breaker on the side of the Z1000 brick right? If it's flipped out, then you won't get any power out and that could be the source of your problem.

Picture below is the pushed in "ON" not tripped state. The middle portion flips out and shows a white strip on the edge when tripped.

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@Woody18655 posted:

Tried to-do it in passive mode but that didn't work either, tried new transformer, power to track with lighted lock on, transceiver no power light on.

Well, this one won't work in passive mode ever. It's purpose is to control the power through it, from the input jack to the track-(think of it as a powermaster lite) it does the same function- just controlled by an IR remote. It varies the voltage (kinda like a Zcontroller) and has the equivalent of bell, whistle, and direction buttons- all controlled and activated via the IR remote.

@Woody18655 posted:

The lower is the one the train sets came with them , instead of a Zcontroller. i opened three sets and none of them power up????

USED MTH RailKing 50-1012 Infrared Remote wo/box

@Woody18655 posted:

I have a brand new never used IR and when i apply power the green light does not come on, and there is no power to the rails, any suggestions will be appreciated. I have three of these units non power up???It is the pre 2001 model, it is a lock on type with a power cable from a 1000 watt transformer. all three are this type

Your pictures attached from your previous post from the above quote.

Again, this type is the non-DCS and non "digital" version,it is not a 50-1033.

This is the original IR controller that is for conventional control only, it varies the AC voltage on the track and can provide a DC offset signal for traditional Bell and Whistle/Horn commands.

AC voltage from one of the MTH Z series bricks (Z500, Z1000, unsure about the Z750 21V brick??) must go into the round power jack, and then via IR command from the matching remote, you can raise track power from 0V upwards using the remote.

It will not work in "passive" mode by supplying power into the lockon connection.

FWIW, the manual for this specific controller.

https://mthtrains.com/sites/de...ction/30as10319i.pdf

Press the upper end of the handheld’s throttle control rocker switch
to send voltage to the track. Because this is an infrared line-of-sight
remote, you must aim it at the lock-on in order to send signals to the
track. The green LED atop the lock-on will come on, indicating the
track is receiving power. Subsequent pushes of any buttons on the
remote will cause the LED to blink, indicating it is receiving the
signal

So reading that, the LED might be off until you begin to command power to be on using the up portion of the grey middle rocker button on the remote and then the LED blinks as it receives this incoming IR command.

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