They have not made the Potash Cylindrical Hoppers in the original 1978-1979 paint scheme. This is what you need for a 1970's and 1980's era freight train.
Andrew
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I would like to get the RailKing Western Maryland Hudson to pull my seven car set of WM Madison heavyweights.
falconservice posted:Do you mean the Potash Corp 3-bay covered hopper built by National Steel Car?
The National Steel Car covered hoppers do not exactly match any of the covered hoppers that MTH currently produces, but they are similar to the ACF Center Flow 3-bay covered hoppers.
Andrew
When has something not being prototypical ever stopped MTH from making something?
Whew - You guys mentioned a Santa Fe 'Yellow Bonnett' with stainless plating and I figured I was done in.
Fortunately (or not) I see it is in the RK Scale line so I will reluctantly have to pass. Had they been Premiere, I would have had to 'arrange financing' somehow...
c.sam posted:Whew - You guys mentioned a Santa Fe 'Yellow Bonnett' with stainless plating and I figured I was done in.
Fortunately (or not) I see it is in the RK Scale line so I will reluctantly have to pass. Had they been Premiere, I would have had to 'arrange financing' somehow...
I do this every catalog. This time I put five items on my list. When I looked at the total price, I said to myself "where am I going to get that money?"
It's pretty easy for me nowadays. I don't have any money! If I did there's the....
Amtrak ES44 stainless with lights (maybe Chessie too?)
flat cars with Abrams tank loads
new subway set
again I have to see the Big Boy #4014 with scale wheels that I still can't buy....
and the new G scale Dash 8s....
Why can't I get on MTH's payroll? I could just swap pay for more new stuff!
The flats with the abrahms tanks price sure went up from the first release.
John Pignatelli JR. posted:I like the PRSL GP38's , Reading and Northern MP15, and I like a few of the R&N cars, I have to know more on the army items, the cannons look strange to me.
I looked into the cannon one more time, I found a 105 with the personnel shields but they did not have the mussels on the barrels. see below.
us army - m119a3 105mm digital howitzers below, the modern gun . this gun has no personnel shields however it does have a mussel.
Which is the correct one?
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MTH LISTENED!!!
I'm all in! Can't wait to pre-order and will, as soon as dealers list them. If this run succeeds, perhaps we will see a re-run of the SIRT ALCo S-2... please. The MUEs are another possibility, since the MTH BMT Standard frame can be used and their Lo-V trucks approximate the prototype.
Thank you Mike!
John Pignatelli JR. posted:John Pignatelli JR. posted:I like the PRSL GP38's , Reading and Northern MP15, and I like a few of the R&N cars, I have to know more on the army items, the cannons look strange to me.
I looked into the cannon one more time, I found a 105 with the personnel shields but they did not have the mussels on the barrels. see below.
us army - m119a3 105mm digital howitzers below, the modern gun . this gun has no personnel shields however it does have a mussel
Which is the correct one?
John, that's a "muzzle brake". I've been looking at Google images and I see both. So my guess is either one is okay.
As a 2 railer, I don't follow MTH much. I did peruse the latest catalogue which is listed in this post to see if any new first generation diesels might be coming that are 2 rail. I looked at the photos of what they call their GP7 in the premier line, and based on the information I have on placement of louvres on the long hood and vents, that body seems to be a model of a GP9, not a 7. Now as units got older and rebuilt, doors with vents got moved etc., but these models represent as built new units.
Has anyone else noticed this?
I looked into the cannon one more time, I found a 105 with the personnel shields but they did not have the mussels on the barrels. see below.
us army - m119a3 105mm digital howitzers below, the modern gun . this gun has no personnel shields however it does have a mussel
Which is the correct one?
John, that's a "muzzle brake". I've been looking at Google images and I see both. So my guess is either one is okay.
beachhead2 posted:John Pignatelli JR. posted:John Pignatelli JR. posted:I like the PRSL GP38's , Reading and Northern MP15, and I like a few of the R&N cars, I have to know more on the army items, the cannons look strange to me.
I looked into the cannon one more time, I found a 105 with the personnel shields but they did not have the mussels on the barrels. see below.
us army - m119a3 105mm digital howitzers below, the modern gun . this gun has no personnel shields however it does have a mussel
Which is the correct one?
John, that's a "muzzle brake". I've been looking at Google images and I see both. So my guess is either one is okay.
I stand corrected, I prefer the early version. I may cut the muzzle brake off to make it look like the older cannon.
thanks
john
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John Pignatelli JR. posted:John Pignatelli JR. posted:I like the PRSL GP38's , Reading and Northern MP15, and I like a few of the R&N cars, I have to know more on the army items, the cannons look strange to me.
I looked into the cannon one more time, I found a 105 with the personnel shields but they did not have the mussels on the barrels. see below.
us army - m119a3 105mm digital howitzers below, the modern gun . this gun has no personnel shields however it does have a mussel.
Which is the correct one?
The M114 155mm Heavy howitzer had personnel shields and muzzle suppressor still not very close.....
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c.sam posted:Whew - You guys mentioned a Santa Fe 'Yellow Bonnett' with stainless plating and I figured I was done in.
Fortunately (or not) I see it is in the RK Scale line so I will reluctantly have to pass. Had they been Premiere, I would have had to 'arrange financing' somehow...
Same here with the demo f units. Only painted in the railking f3. Now if they did them in the correct F7 premier line I would have been in trouble!
After some consideration the Detroit, Toledo & Ironton Pullman-Standard box car scheme would fit better on the Premier 50' waffle side box car that has the right ends and the correct door. The compass logo needs to be on a sign-plate.
Andrew
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prrhorseshoecurve posted:Same here with the demo f units. Only painted in the railking f3. Now if they did them in the correct F7 premier line I would have been in trouble!
The corker is EMD 462 was the only locomotive painted that way and wasn't even a F3 (Yeah, yeah, I know... It's Railking and it's your railroad... yada yada) It didn't have any mating B's or A's.
It was a test bed for EMD rebuilt from C&NW F7 6501A.
Rusty
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The DT&I 18800 series of 50' box cars built by BERWICK FORGE & FOUNDRY are the cars that match the Premier 50' Box Car. These Detroit, Toledo & Ironton box cars need the compass logo on a signplate.
Mike Wolf needs to have this corrected since there are so few DT&I box cars left to produce, each box car needs to be matched up as close as possible between prototype and scale model.
Andrew
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Here is a link to more information about the Detroit, Toledo & Ironton DTI 18800 series 50' box cars that more closely match the Premier O scale 50' box cars. The color photo shows that the door is Bright Orange!
http://dti.railfan.net/index.html
Andrew
Still nothing else to go with these :
Nevermind MTH, thanks for the carriers, but Im not waiting 48 years for the train. Custom painting Lionel, Atlas, Weaver cars to match.
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Youngstown Sheet & Tube S2 switcher and Amtrak ES44 for me, along with some U.S. Army rolling stock, including M1a tanks on flats.
Allan Miller posted:Youngstown Sheet & Tube S2 switcher and Amtrak ES44 for me, along with some U.S. Army rolling stock, including M1a tanks on flats.
I may buy the Youngstown S2 also. Was this the paint used in the 1970s? Nice to see some hometown area trains!
The Detroit, Toledo & Ironton 50' box car 20-93859 in the 2019 Volume 1 catalog is a car that I am interested in buying.
Somebody made a mistake though. They did not put the right DT&I paint scheme and numbers on the right O scale box car type.
The DT&I 50' box cars that matched the Premier O scale 50' box cars very closely were in the DT&I 18800-18874 series. These box cars were built by Berwick Forge & Foundry.
They have an orange door. The compass logo is on a large sign plate.
http://dti.railfan.net/Pototyp...ages/rs/dti18848.jpg
http://canadianfreightcargalle...i=dti18873&o=dti
http://dti.railfan.net/Equipment_Database/DTI18800s50'BFFBoxcar/ArtDTI18800s.html
The DT&I paint scheme and number series shown on the 50' box car in the catalog is for a Pullman-Standard 50' box car that closely matches the Premier 50' waffle box car. The ends are the same and the door is the same. The compass logo was on a small sign plate.
DT&I 16900-16974 was the Pullman-Standard series. That series and those graphics should be used only for the 50' waffle box car.
http://dti.railfan.net/Pototyp...ages/rs/dti16918.jpg
http://canadianfreightcargalle...i=dti16919&o=dti
http://canadianfreightcargalle...i=dti16931&o=dti
http://canadianfreightcargalle...i=dti16966&o=dti
There is a very limited amount of DT&I freight cars remaining to be produced for the first time. The paint schemes and the freight have to match each other as closely as possible. It takes months to years between the production of these freight cars, so they have to be painted as close as possible to the real cars the first time they are made.
Please make the correction and post the change on Facebook, twitter, and the O Gauge Railroading 3-rail Forum.
I look forward to having both of the Detroit, Toledo & Ironton schemes on the proper O scale box cars.
Thank you.
Andrew
D500 posted:"it feels like they're going to be offering them forever."
You say that like it's a bad thing.
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"The European High-Sided gondolas could be painted in schemes seen in the USA like SOUTHERN, Norfolk Southern, and others and have North American trucks and couplers."
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Big_Boy_4005 posted:Paultrainguy posted:Ordering nothing. Already got a lot of stuff, running out of room.
I'm in the same boat. Maybe some of the center beam lumber flats, but that's about it.
Well, there's your problem right there! Your layouts are in boats. We need to talk.
I'm just worried that MTH will never make a new steam locomotive in the Premier line again. They should look into doing brass steam locomotives.
Rusty Traque posted:prrhorseshoecurve posted:Same here with the demo f units. Only painted in the railking f3. Now if they did them in the correct F7 premier line I would have been in trouble!
The corker is EMD 462 was the only locomotive painted that way and wasn't even a F3 (Yeah, yeah, I know... It's Railking and it's your railroad... yada yada) It didn't have any mating B's or A's.
It was a test bed for EMD rebuilt from C&NW F7 6501A.
Rusty
You are right about a "b unit" however in the Diesel Demonstrator book there is a picture of both the A unit test bed along with the EMD test car( that was made in a b unit body) both painted in the flashy maroon paint scheme above that MTH could do in their premier line F7 A-B and still be "in the ballpark".
