MTH DCS WIFI premium APP Questions or issues, post them here. VIDEOS ADDED

Barry and Marty,

Thanks for your detailed investigation into the "Legacy issue" some of us are having.  It leads me to believe some of us must have a setting wrong somewhere?  Here's my info with a little more details:

• iPhone 5s iOS 10.3.1
• iPad  Air 2 64GB iOS 10.3.1
• Rev. I TIU with WIU connected via Serial port with serial Y cable
• TIU = V6.0
• WIU = V1.1
• Cab2 = V1.6 

TIU settings:

• Supermode - off
• Variable 1 DCS Signaling = on
• Variable 2 DCS Signaling = on
• Fixed 1 DCS Signaling = on
• Fixed 2 DCS Signaling = on
• AC Frequency input = 60Hz

 To better explain the issue, I can load an engine as a Legacy engine and it is accepted.  When I try to use the engine all Legacy features will appear but absolutely nothing will work.

trainroomgary posted:

H1000 posted:

The DCS Firmware for 6.00 is still available, Click the link below for a direct download:

DCS 6.00 download

H1000

Hi H1000 

I tried this link: DCS 6.00 download   /   No go, just stops. Locks up........

I have my adult son coming over tonight.  I do this to keep him involved in the hobby. Why is the uploading features, Turned Off? and when will it be turned back on?

Gary

 

Gary

Gary, try right clicking "Download Now" and choose to open under a new tab.

Zephyr 1 posted:

Thanks again Barry for your efforts on this issue.

While still trying to troubleshoot my Legacy problem this is what I have found so far.

I own 4 Legacy diesels a WP GP9, a WP GP30, A NP GP7 and a SP GP30.

I tried to program all of them, and only the oldest one, the WP GP9 actually worked as a Legacy engine in the app, but not the other 3.

Any other thoughts? Does the  version of Legacy base software matter?

I'm using 1.53 on my Legacy system.

Thanks again

Tom

To add to my above statements the WP GP9 Legacy engine only works with my Ipad but not my Galaxy phone app. Strange?

Barry Broskowitz posted:

For the past few hours, Marty Fitzhenry and I have worked the "can't run Legacy  when using the DCS App Premium edition" issue. We conducted tests using the following hardware scenarios:

All Legacy engines started up and ran successfully when set as "Legacy" mode

• All Legacy engines started up and ran successfully when set as "TMCC" mode
• All TMCC engines started up and ran successfully when set as "TMCC" mode
• All TMCC engines failed to start up and could not be operated at all when set as "Legacy" mode.

The above edited for brevity.  This is exactly my finding with my previously detailed iPad and iPhone. All works well for me

Huge thanks to Barry and Marty F for the detailed testing and help here.

Just thought, perhaps we need to start two different topics on this.. one for Android trouble shooting, and one for iOS trouble shooting, as it appears the issues are different for each platform.

H1000 posted:

trainroomgary posted:

H1000 posted:

The DCS Firmware for 6.00 is still available, Click the link below for a direct download:

DCS 6.00 download

H1000

Hi H1000 

I tried this link: DCS 6.00 download   /   No go, just stops. Locks up........

I have my adult son coming over tonight.  I do this to keep him involved in the hobby. Why is the uploading features, Turned Off? and when will it be turned back on?

Gary

 

Gary

So I tested this link on three different computers, with Safari, Chrome, and Internet Explorer. It opened every time for me.

H1000

Edit, and the video of Firefox opening the link:

Same results here.  I just tried it on both Mac and PC.  Firefox on both.  I can get to the download link H1000 provided.

EscapeRocks posted:

Barry Broskowitz posted:

For the past few hours, Marty Fitzhenry and I have worked the "can't run Legacy  when using the DCS App Premium edition" issue. We conducted tests using the following hardware scenarios:

All Legacy engines started up and ran successfully when set as "Legacy" mode

• All Legacy engines started up and ran successfully when set as "TMCC" mode
• All TMCC engines started up and ran successfully when set as "TMCC" mode
• All TMCC engines failed to start up and could not be operated at all when set as "Legacy" mode.

The above edited for brevity.  This is exactly my finding with my previously detailed iPad and iPhone. All works well for me

 

Huge thanks to Barry and Marty F for the detailed testing and help here.

Just thought, perhaps we need to start two different topics on this.. one for Android trouble shooting, and one for iOS trouble shooting, as it appears the issues are different for each platform.

This particular issue has been reported on both platforms. 

MTH has posted you need the SER2 and a LCS power supply if you don't already have one to operate Legacy engines in Legacy mode. 

See this thread. 

MartyE posted:

MTH has posted you need the SER2 and a LCS power supply if you don't already have one to operate Legacy engines in Legacy mode. 

See this thread. 

Well I don't have either of those.  Guess I'm going shopping.

Thanks Marty

The good news is they are the least expensive of the LCS modules. 

I am predicting a uptick in demand of SER2s and power supplies. 

More money to spend for stuff I thought I didn't need with this Premium app, Really?

MartyE posted:

MTH has posted you need the SER2 and a LCS power supply if you don't already have one to operate Legacy engines in Legacy mode. 

See this thread. 

Ahhhh  that would be why my iOS is working with Legacy.   I have those on my layout.

Zephyr 1 posted:

 

I see that the 6.0 software upgrade is not showing on the MTH DCS website, maybe they are reworking it

I hope.

Thanks

I also hope. Still off.

When will it be turned back on? Need an answer from MTH or their representative.

Thank-you: Gary

as one who is unfamiliar with Legacy, how is the SER2 used? What is it's purpose? the Description on the Lionel site was pretty sparse.

Thanks

Jonathan

enginEErjon posted:

as one who is unfamiliar with Legacy, how is the SER2 used? What is it's purpose? the Description on the Lionel site was pretty sparse.

Thanks

Jonathan

It basically carries out the serial port when the LCS components are used. Not 100% sure why it makes the DCS interface work for Legacy but it is connected on the PID buss so that doesn't surprise me that it opening the Legacy commands. 

trainroomgary posted:

Zephyr 1 posted:

 

I see that the 6.0 software upgrade is not showing on the MTH DCS website, maybe they are reworking it

I hope.

Thanks

I also hope. Still off.

When will it be turned back on? Need an answer from MTH or their representative.

Thank-you: Gary

Gary, I just tried again, going thru MTH and it worked.   Here are succesive screenshots:

Went to mth train, clicked on the DCS app, then clicked on the 6.00 upgrade which brought me to the form.   Filled out the form, and it led me to the download link, which led me to the download.  Using Macbook pro Firefox to donwload

MartyE posted:

The good news is they are the least expensive of the LCS modules. 

I am predicting a uptick in demand of SER2s and power supplies. 

 

Guess that's why I can run legacy with no issues as I had to buy a ser2 to get all my tmcc and Zstuff data wire driver to work well together 

Version 6.0 Done

Thank-you: Dave

Gary

Here's a link to the SER2 manual, on page 13 there's a photo of the connection between TIU and SER2.

https://www.lionelsupport.com/...50SER2UsersGuide.pdf

So far it looks like the Apple app works (mostly) but the Android app has issues.  Barry and MartyE are limited in answering questions concerning the Android issues because they only have Apple products.  When can we get a MTH Android programmer on here to help us Android users?

trainroomgary posted:

Version 6.0 Done

Thank-you: Dave

Gary

 

You're welcome!!

Guys,

Two things...

The DCS 6.0 link was down. Andy fixed it around 5:00 pm or so.

The fix to operate Legacy engines using the DCS App, discussed on thread "MTH Premium App and Legacy Engines" states that you need 2 things. You actually need 4 items. I've requested a correction.

Thanks Barry,

I'm looking forward to reading the correction.

Before I can test operating Legacy/TMCC engines with the Premium App I need to know if the older TIU/Command base cable works with the Legacy base? Or do I need the newer TIU/Command-Legacy cable?

I do not want to damage the TIU or Legacy base... I have a SER2 installed already...

Barry Broskowitz posted:

Guys,

Two things...

The DCS 6.0 link was down. Andy fixed it around 5:00 pm or so.

The fix to operate Legacy engines using the DCS App, discussed on thread "MTH Premium App and Legacy Engines" states that you need 2 things. You actually need 4 items. I've requested a correction.

So what are the other 2 things?   The DCS to Legacy cable?  

MartyE posted:

So what are the other 2 things?   The DCS to Legacy cable?  

Hi Marty E       One: Upgrade Down    Two: Upgrade Up     -     Maybe

Gary 

Jim,

You need MTH #50-1032.

Ok, setting up to do my video on the new new APP I found a couple of TMCC bugs.  

1.  When I setup a TMCC lashup, the Wifi shuts down my TPC300.   After I select the last engine the whistle sounds like it should and the TPC shuts the power off.  The TPC has a address of ENG 1.   Turn everything back on and I can control the lashup.  I'm guessing the APP gives the lashup a address of TR 1 as there's no indication of what it's address is like other TMCC engines.  WHY the TPC is getting the command to shut down I have no clue

2.  While running said lashup in reverse at a fairly good speed.  Hitting the forward button does nothing.   If you hit the reverse button the lashup stops, you still have to hit the forward button to get it to go forward.   I repeated this several times and will show it in the video. It was very disheartening when it wouldn't stop and almost plowed into my Challenger.

3. on my PS2 Mohawk. Quillable whistle still operates flaky.  When in motion sometimes it sounds and sometimes nothing. Works every time standing still.

I created my first DCS lashup today and I can confirm with my Apple Ipad there are NO soft keys in the center screen.  Lashup works great though.

Barry, thanks... I'll have to get one... Testing Legacy engine operation with App will have to wait!

Barry Broskowitz posted:

Jim,

You need MTH #50-1032.

Is there a way to tell which one you have?  Looking at the MTH site the 50-1018 (discontinued) and the 50-1032 look similar.  

what are my options for entering all my remote information into the app on my phone ?

clem 

Tony_V posted:

Barry Broskowitz posted:

Jim,

You need MTH #50-1032.

Is there a way to tell which one you have?  Looking at the MTH site the 50-1018 (discontinued) and the 50-1032 look similar.  

Usually if I remember there will be a tag warapped on the cable. Can't remember if it will have the part number. I haven't looked at one in a while. The bag it comes in will definitely have the information. 

E-mail yourself a remote clone file after renaming it from .txt to .mth. Receive the E-mail in your phone/tablet and double-click on the attached file.

Select the DCS App as the destination and the appp will do the rest.

How do I put a remote clone in my computer ? Do I plug it into the USB port? Guess I need a special cord ?

clem k posted:

How do I put a remote clone in my computer ? Do I plug it into the USB port? Guess I need a special cord ?

Have you done an upgrade using the 5.0 loader?  It's the same connectivity either via the serial port or USB connection depending on the Rev of your TIU. You use the loader program. There is a selection to create a clone file to your PC. I'm sure those instructions are in Barry's book but I believe the loader wil walk you through the process. 

Clem,

The clone file is a backup of your remote that's created using the Loader Program. Refer to The DCS Companion 3rd Edition pages 149-152.

The APP is outstanding! All negative comments should be ignored.

Gerald,

The APP is outstanding! All negative comments should be ignored.

LOL!

Not in this world!  

Gerald Jackson posted:

The APP is outstanding! All negative comments should be ignored.

I think all non constructive negative comments should be ignored. A lot of folks having issues and are contributing to these threads with real issues. Some negatives will happen but it's those that can be turned into positives when solutions are found. 

I thank Barry, MartyF, and all the beta testers as well as MTH for their patience as these issues get worked out. 

Im using a Mac book, I think that is what my tech did, It didn't take. Is there another way of doing this ? ifI bring my remotes and iPhone to the DCS meeting can it be done there?

Clem

Clem,

You need to be more specific as regards what "didn't work".

Have the premium app installed, but the transfer of my remote data did not.

The App said "download failed"

No negative hear, just want to make it better

superwarp1 posted:

No negative hear, just want to make it better

Exactly and I think most folks are with us.  I think some just excited.  Remember most time folks don't post that everything is coming up roses.

Clem,

The only scenario of which I'm aware that the imprt fails is if the remote has Z4K Tracks. Do you have Z4K Tracks? If so, delete them and then backup the remote, and follow my previous instructions.

No Z4K tracks, I don't have a way to backup remote. I just tried again with the email that suppose to have my data, no luck.   Can this be taken care of at the DCS meeting?

Installed the SER2 and power cable and now all Legacy engines run from the Premium APP.

One question: Several times when trying to increase the locomotive speed with the "+" speed command, I accidentally fat fingered the white index at 200 speed steps and the locomotive takes off full speed. How do you adjust the white index maximum speed mark to a lower setting. I remember it was easy with the original APP, but doesn't seem to work for the Premium APP

Jack,

If it can be done for Legacy engines, it will be in the Engines Settings Screen for individual Legacy engines. However, first you'll have to turn on the feature via More.../Advanced Features/System Settings.

I have noticed that the speedometer needle is all over the place when running TMCC engines at low speeds

while using the app on my Ipad and my Anderoid phone.

Has anyone else noticed this?

Gerald Jackson posted:

The APP is outstanding! All negative comments should be ignored.

I love the app too but if all is working for you that's great however for many there are issues that need to be fixed and not all is on the user end. 

  George 

I can't comment yet, I can't even download my data. I'll admit I'm computer illiterate.

Will bringing my DCS system to the DCS meeting wednesday get me up and running?

Barry Broskowitz posted:

Clem,

The only scenario of which I'm aware that the imprt fails is if the remote has Z4K Tracks. Do you have Z4K Tracks? If so, delete them and then backup the remote, and follow my previous instructions.

After reading this from Barry I do have two Z4K tracks so I removed them and gave the backup and loading deal a try again on my Samsung g5 hoping to get the rest of my loco's and routes. No change missing loco's and duplicate non functioning routes. I then tried for a long time to get my routes entered correctly but no way. The app changes the directions and what switches it wants to throw on its own. 

  For me not having the routes working is a problem.

I'm glad the Legacy issue apears to be solved, I won't know for sure till my order for the required items arrives. 

  George 

I have noticed that the speedometer needle is all over the place when running TMCC engines at low speeds

There is no speedometer for TMCC engines. Rather, it's a simulation of the TMCC "big red wheel".

Clem,

Will bringing my DCS system to the DCS meeting wednesday get me up and running?

If you bring your DCS and a USB flash drive, we could create a backup file for you and put it on the drive. Then, you could E-mail it to yourself.

Regardless, you still haven't told us exactly what you did when it didn't work. You must use a DCS Remote backup file that does not have any Z4K Tracks (if iOS, Android will just ignore Z4K Tracks) and has had its extension changed from ".txt"  to ".mth". You then E-mail the file to yourself as an attachment, receive the E-mail on your  device and double-click on it, and select the DCS App as its destination.

Until you attempt yourself what I've described above and detail exactly what happens, I'd prefer not to have someone spend time at the meeting doing something that you can easily do for yourself. We expect to be updating quite a few TIUs, remotes and WIUs at the meeting, and our resources are limited.

Well here is one for you, my legacy/TMCC engines run on the new MTH app, with legacy features but cant find MTH engines on app. States request timed out. MTH and Lionel all operate fine on the DCS remote-full function. Have it all at 6.0. Your thoughts!

Don,

my legacy/TMCC engines run on the new MTH app, but cant find MTH engines on app. MTH and Lionel all operate fine on the DCS remote-full function.

First, what means "can't find MTH engines"? How are you attempting to find them? Is your WIU firmware at 1.1?

Regardless, have you waited a few minutes for the WIU to come up completely, powered up your DCS engines and then refreshed the app before going to the engine roster?

Barry Broskowitz posted:

Don,

my legacy/TMCC engines run on the new MTH app, but cant find MTH engines on app. MTH and Lionel all operate fine on the DCS remote-full function.

First, what means "can't find MTH engines"? How are you attempting to find them? Is your WIU firmware at 1.1?

Regardless, have you waited a few minutes for the WIU to come up completely, powered up your DCS engines and then refreshed the app before going to the engine roster?

Barry did one upgrade I thought a while back with wifi box after it came out, that would be 1.1 correct and its powered up and then when trying to add MTH engine to app list get timed out message. Have Remote list copied on computer but havent tried to import to app yet Hope Iam clear. Don

Barry, thanks for clarifying that.

Had a weird situation here at AGHR. Of the five TIUs on the layout, four of them lost Variable 2 completely running Super TIU mode under DCS 6.0 and we couldn't get them back. We also lost Variable 2 on the setup TIU (also address #1/Tethered), but got it back when I downgraded back to 5.0, then it stayed operational when I re-upgraded to 6.0.

After switching the connections from Variable 2 to Fixed #2 on the impacted TIUs, we ran. The DCS Premium App makes a lot of things easier. We've had a couple of quirks, but for the most part it's definitely a good replacement for the remote and easier to operate in some contexts. The big plus is that with the configuration of our layout and TIU locations, the WiFi configuration provides better radio connectivity to all the TIUS from anywhere in the building (and even out in the parking lot).

Don,

You still haven't explained exactly what you're doing.

If you get the timeout when you refresh the app, try this:

• Power up the layout ,including the TU and WIU.
• Power up the DCS Engines that you plan to operate.
• Make sure that the DCS App comes up to the Run My Trains screen when started up. If it comes up on any other screen, shut it down. On an iOS device, do this by double-tapping the home button and swiping up on the app.
• Wait a few minutes until the WIU's LEDs are on steady, then wait a full minute more.
• Run the app and tap on Run My Trains.
• Tap Refresh. If you get an error or timeout, wait a minute and tap it again.
• When refresh no longer times out, go to the engine list. Your powered engines should be in the active list. Tap on one to select it and go to the Engine Control Screen.

Matt,

There's a known bug in the Import function that sets all variable channels that were set to fixed in a remote to variable when that remote's clone file is imported. To make them fixed again, go to More.../Advanced Features/System Settings/TIU Settings.

Barry Broskowitz posted:

Matt,

There's a known bug in the Import function that sets all variable channels that were set to fixed in a remote to variable when that remote's clone file is imported. To make them fixed again, go to More.../Advanced Features/System Settings/TIU Settings.

Tried that. Didn't get Variable #2 back. May be related to operating in Super TIU mode. We're going to run some more tests and see if we can find a work-around.

Matt,

I use Super mode with 3 TIUs and have had no issues with variable channel other than the import issue with variable channels set to variable when they should have been fixed, as noted above.

My WIU has been sitting on the shelf waiting for the premium app to come out. I finally hooked it up. My wife has a nice ASUS Google Chrome tablet that she hardly ever uses so I purchased the Premium app and downloaded it to the ASUS. I also updated my remote and TIU to 6.0,  also updated the WIU. I hooked it all up and I'm having a blast with it. Question 1: I want to also get the app for my phone, will I have to pay another $24.95 (the tablet is registered with her Google account) ? Question 2: Could it be possible for the app to someday split the screen into 2, 3, or 4 screens each running a separate engine ?

Sorry to bother you Barry,

Everything was done just the way it was suppose to be done. The last step is... Import App Data. Bottom of page is two choices ........ Close   or    Import....   I choose import ......next message..... import failed.

No Z4k tracks.   If I could do this myself I would, I knew you guys would be busy on wednesday and I didn't want any part of that. So I drove two hours to a very good MTH service shop he updated everything to 6.0 for me and cloned all my remotes. He was with me when I bought the APP and download it, he sent me the remotes clone and steered me through this. I paid to have this done so I wouldn't bother anybody wednesday then drove two hours home.

Believe me I don't want to be there, just seems like all the brains of the outfit in one place is a good thing.   I bought a USB flash drive 16GB I hope that is right. Other than a remote and the flash drive, should I bring anything else ?

Clem

Dave Zucal posted:

My WIU has been sitting on the shelf waiting for the premium app to come out. I finally hooked it up. My wife has a nice ASUS Google Chrome tablet that she hardly ever uses so I purchased the Premium app and downloaded it to the ASUS. I also updated my remote and TIU to 6.0,  also updated the WIU. I hooked it all up and I'm having a blast with it. Question 1: I want to also get the app for my phone, will I have to pay another $24.95 (the tablet is registered with her Google account) ? Question 2: Could it be possible for the app to someday split the screen into 2, 3, or 4 screens each running a separate engine ?

I can help answer Question #1, mobile apps in general are always connected (linked) to the specific account that purchased it; whether it be an Apple or Google account. With that said you can have multiple accounts on your tablets and phones ( I have 3 Gmail accounts on my phone - one personal and two for my IT business). You will need to add your wife's google account to your phone, and just disable the email, calendar, etc.... features. You should then be able to download the application without having to pay for it again.

Clem,

E-mail the file that you're trying to import to the address in my profile.

Dave,

As Matt said, it's like any other app. You can download and install the app on multiple devices at no additional charge as long as they are all registered to the same iTunes or Google Play account.

Thanks Matt and Barry.

The Download from the MTH website appears to be down again.  Clicking on it (at least for me) yields only a blank page.

RAK posted:

The Download from the MTH website appears to be down again.  Clicking on it (at least for me) yields only a blank page.

Hi RAK:  What brand of computer are using?  What is the operating system? also are you on Chrome, Fox or Safari.   Just to start with some basic information.

Gary

I played around with some TMCC and Legacy engines this morning.  The TMCC lashups all ran very well with no problems.

I could not get my Legacy engines to run under Legacy mode but they did run in TMCC mode.  I am using a Cab1L.  Might that be the problem?

Thanks,

Dave

trainroomgary posted:

RAK posted:

The Download from the MTH website appears to be down again.  Clicking on it (at least for me) yields only a blank page.

Hi RAK:  What brand of computer are using?  What is the operating system? also are you on Chrome, Fox or Safari.   Just to start with some basic informatio

Gary

Hi RAK - I have the process done. It is all about problem solving skills and sharing information.

Gary

David Minarik posted:

I played around with some TMCC and Legacy engines this morning.  The TMCC lashups all ran very well with no problems.

I could not get my Legacy engines to run under Legacy mode but they did run in TMCC mode.  I am using a Cab1L.  Might that be the problem?

Thanks,

Dave

The Base1L does not support full Legacy speed steps.  Also a SER2 must be used with a Legacy base to connect the TIU to get Legacy control. I would imagine that is the same with a Base 1L. But again the Base 1L isn't fully Legacy ready. More of a Legacy lite. 

About all you get for Legacy with  Base1L is quillable whistle and 99 trains  

Ok, here's my video review.  It's a two part as the camara batteries died.  Long winded, over twenty minutes long.  Sorry for the bouncing around.

MartyE posted:

David Minarik posted:

I played around with some TMCC and Legacy engines this morning.  The TMCC lashups all ran very well with no problems.

I could not get my Legacy engines to run under Legacy mode but they did run in TMCC mode.  I am using a Cab1L.  Might that be the problem?

Thanks,

Dave

The Base1L does not support full Legacy speed steps.  Also a SER2 must be used with a Legacy base to connect the TIU to get Legacy control. I would imagine that is the same with a Base 1L. But again the Base 1L isn't fully Legacy ready. More of a Legacy lite. 

About all you get for Legacy with  Base1L is quillable whistle and 99 trains  

 

Marty,

Thanks,  

I was just looking for the quilling whistle.  What is a SER2?

Dave

Dave,

Read this thread all the way through. It should answer most of your questions re: using Legacy engines via the DCS App.

Is anybody else having trouble with the direction button on the Track screen when running conventional? When I press it, I lose control of the track and need to reset the TIU. Things work fine changing direction by dropping the throttle lever on the screen to zero, to cycle the e-unit.  Also, what does TZV do? 

George

I got the 50-1032 cable this afternoon, installed it and successfully ran my Legacy engines...  I also was able to control my switch machines from the App...

After a while, for some unknown reason, the App lost contact with the TIUs... I have 2 TIUs and operate in supermode...  I have yet to track down the reason for losing contact with the TIUs...  Restarting the App and cycling the power on the layout did not seem to help...   The WIFI units were still up and operating and my home LAN was still active...  Strange...  I was using the iPhone App and the battery was getting weak...  Don't know if that was a reason...  

I am still troubleshooting  this issue...

But the Legacy engine operation was great and I ran both individual Legacy engines and Legacy lashups...

George,

TZV sets voltage to zero, just as it does when using the remote.

Everything Lionel Legacy /TMCC runs great on the app,even MU's . after repeated attempts cant find anything dcs, updated wifi, using I pad, haven't tried my phone yet. everything runs fine on dcs remote at 6.0 sooooooo.

Zephyr said: There is no speedometer for TMCC engines. Rather, it's a simulation of the TMCC "big red wheel".

Zephyr 1 with the engine you want to run selected you have to swipe to the engine setting page (the third page of the main 3) and there you will see a choices for Cab1, R100 or TMCC. I dont have the app on now so I'm not sure of the names but if your using Legacy you should be able to pick it out. Use TMCC to get 32 steps and R100 for 100 steps. The Cab1 gives you the red wheel like you said.

If your E-stop doesn't work all the time: 

 E-stop must be touched and held for ~1 second to activate.  This is by
 design to avoid nuisance E-stop tripping from grazing over the icon.

Update to my post of 4/20/2017

I solved my problem with Android Device 2.... I was using an email program that had access to my Gmail account the other day...  I tried again this afternoon with a new import file and this time I used the Gmail program on that device...  The process worked as advertised and my switch list was imported along with the engines...  So, for this issue, there appears to be nothing wrong with the App in this regard...  

I will be using the Gmail program to get the email from my gmail account on this device from now on to do WIFI DCS Imports...

TRAINROOMGARY,

Thank you for your offer of assistance sir.  I have been using Chrome.  My son had me try Windows Explorer this afternoon and it worked.

Thank you again.  I am sure I will have many more questions.

I just about have the old Super O layout re-wired for DCS, so this should get interesting very shortly (I used DCS on it briefly about 15 years ago, and it worked in passive mode, but I have expanded it, removed the original solid wire from the early 1960's, and run new 16 gauge wiring in a star pattern from the center out now, etc.).  

RAK posted:

TRAINROOMGARY,

Thank you for your offer of assistance sir.  I have been using Chrome.  My son had me try Windows Explorer this afternoon and it worked.

Thank you again.  I am sure I will have many more questions.

I just about have the old Super O layout re-wired for DCS, so this should get interesting very shortly (I used DCS on it briefly about 15 years ago, and it worked in passive mode, but I have expanded it, removed the original solid wire from the early 1960's, and run new 16 gauge wiring in a star pattern from the center out now, etc.).  

HI RAK

Your welcome - sounds like you have a fun layout, with classic trains, from the 60's •"Cool"

Gary

dk122trains posted:

Everything Lionel Legacy /TMCC runs great on the app,even MU's . after repeated attempts cant find anything dcs, updated wifi, using I pad, haven't tried my phone yet. everything runs fine on dcs remote at 6.0 sooooooo.

Well it's all working on my phone , but can't import data to my IPad it craps out when loading. And when adding a tmcc/legacy mu it works great  on the mth app but when I return to the legacy app for same identical setup it won't operate until I delete it from the mth app. Is this normal? Any one else experience this happening?

Don,

You told me previously that you were able to import into your iPhone. If you're using the same file to import into your iPad, there's no reason why that should fail.

If a Legacy MU works on the app and then not with the Cab-2 it's most likely because you assigned the MU a different TR # in the app than in the Legacy Cab-2.  In this case, failure would be, indeed, normal.

Barry Broskowitz posted:

Don,

You told me previously that you were able to import into your iPhone. If you're using the same file to import into your iPad, there's no reason why that should fail.

If a Legacy MU works on the app and then not with the Cab-2 it's most likely because you assigned the MU a different TR # in the app than in the Legacy Cab-2.  In this case, failure would be, indeed, normal.

Barry the phone is android not an I phone.

Hi guys.  Just been playing with the new app.  So far a lot of fun.  I'm having a problem with getting engines from inactive list to active.  What do I have to push touch slide I don't know.  They are on the track and powered up.  When I first added them ran in lashups as well.  Then when refreshed moves to inactive MTH and Lionel and I can't get them back to the active list.  I would appreciate any knowledge in this before I lose my hair.  Thanks guys.

Welcome to baldness.

If there is a small arrow or such to right of name, drage name to active list, or so I'm told. Otherwise, a refresh read is needed.

Bryan posted:

Hi guys.  Just been playing with the new app.  So far a lot of fun.  I'm having a problem with getting engines from inactive list to active.  What do I have to push touch slide I don't know.  They are on the track and powered up.  When I first added them ran in lashups as well.  Then when refreshed moves to inactive MTH and Lionel and I can't get them back to the active list.  I would appreciate any knowledge in this before I lose my hair.  Thanks guys.

 Bryan

  I found the quickest way to bring them up is on the page with the loco list at the top right hit edit, then all the locos that are available will have the little arrow to the right of the name and by touching that arrow they are moved to the active list. If there is no arrow then the loco wasn't found but it seems to work fairly consistent for me. I hope that helps.

  George

   Well after a week of  mostly enjoying but still getting frustrated with the new app. I was wondering if anybody has found a solution yet regarding creating routes and scenes. So far everything I've tried doesn't work and no matter how I try to enter my list of switches in a route the app just changes my selections and same for scenes.

 George

RJR posted:

If your E-stop doesn't work all the time: 

 E-stop must be touched and held for ~1 second to activate.  This is by
 design to avoid nuisance E-stop tripping from grazing over the icon.

Is this the same for the Direction button? Did this come from some manual? Is there a manual to read about features like this?

No, it's info I got direct from MTH as part of an Android version review process.  If you mean the arrows on the speedometer screen, I find those work right away.  Unfortunately, MTH hasn't yet made available a manual of all the features the new app contains and howj to work them. 

RJR posted:

"...MTH hasn't yet made available a manual of all the features the new app contains and how to work them."

I wonder if MTH has plans to offer an online manual or they'll depend on Premium App users purchasing Barry Broskowitz's soon to be released book, The DCS WiFi Companion. I say this since MTH is involved with the book to the extent Barry stated in an OGR post, "...The draft of the book is with MTH's graphics artist for final formatting and layout. This includes all pictures, app screen shots and other images..." Maybe we'll learn at Wednesday's DCS User Group meeting whether MTH will offer an online manual for their Premium App.

Don,

Barry the phone is android not an I phone.

Does the import fie from the remote have 4K Tracks in it? If so, it will import only into Android devices, not iOS devices, due to a known bug.

Barry Broskowitz posted:

Don,

Barry the phone is android not an I phone.

Does the import fie from the remote have 4K Tracks in it? If so, it will import only into Android devices, not iOS devices, due to a known bug.

No it does not have Z4K tracks in it. In York now will show you tomorrow. 

I realize this thread is relegated to questions, but I wanted to thank all who are participating as all of this information is incredibly useful.

I got the two out of three TIU's and three out of four remotes updated to 6.00 this morning (the TIU and remote not yet upgrades are not accessible at this time).  The process went vary smoothly.

One of the TIU's is now installed on the layout and working on the outer loop.  So far all "10's" signal-wise.  The WiFi system is working with my Android phone and I was able to try the quillable/playable whistle on my PS-3 Berkshire for the first time.

So far-OUTSTANDING!

Thank you all!