What new steam engine or diesel would you like to see MTH build.
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I would like to see them produce a 2500 H.P. Transfer Diesel.
MTH has built just about any locomotive I could ask for. But they have yet to build a scale-sized New York Central K-Class 4-6-2 Pacific-type steam locomotive. Even at today's prices, I would be a buyer for that one. There are others on my list. But I will leave it at just this one for now.
MELGAR
E8's in CB&Q, MoPac, MKT, Frisco, GM&O, or B&O. But I wonder if they even have the tooling still.
I would like to see them do run of CNW diesels in Premier E6, yellow. I would love to own an AA set.
Also, a PS3 Railking Burlington Zephyr set -- have not done it since PS1. This is the flagship of Chicago's Museum of Science and Industry. If they sold it in their gift shop, they'd sell a ton of them and introduce new generations to our great hobby.
And, still thinking Chicago, how 'bout one of the new designs of the Metra engines that are in the works?
Just sayin'...
Merry Christmas!
Mike
@jim sutter posted:What new steam engine or diesel would you like to see MTH build.
I.M.O. there aren’t any new model diesels left to offer. A few schemes remain to do but who knows how they think? Plus, all the top-notch ones went to Atlas.
They could replace those outdated looking Premier roof hatch reefers with some 57 footers like Weaver did or do combination door box cars before Lionel does them. We still don't have 50' smooth side modern single plug door cars either. There is always a request by some to offer transfer cabooses as well.
@MELGAR posted:MTH has built just about any locomotive I could ask for. But they have yet to build a scale-sized New York Central K-Class 4-6-2 Pacific-type steam locomotive. Even at today's prices, I would be a buyer for that one. There are others on my list. But I will leave it at just this one for now.
MELGAR
I got tired of waiting for a K class Pacific to come along MELGAR, so I built one….K6 class, aka; the baby Hudson ….but then again, there’s a good few of us that get tired of waiting, …..so we’ve built H10’s K5’s K6’s, Super Hudsons, …😁
don’t wait for it, build it!….😁😁😁
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@MikeH posted:E8's in CB&Q, MoPac, MKT, Frisco, GM&O, or B&O. But I wonder if they even have the tooling still.
Don’t know if Atlas got the tooling but we do know Lionel has their own E8 tooling.
I’d also like to see these roads. I hope MTH still has the E8 tooling. I like that MTH allows you to build Your Own “lash-up” with any Combination of “A”, “B”, powered, or unpowered. Last time I utilized this was with the run 2 Frisco E8.
They offered “A”s and “B”s but Frisco did not have any “B”s so I got 2 powered and 1 unpowered “A”. So I run one “AA” powered-unpowered consist and run a second solitary “A” in another consist.
VERY NICE !!!!
Fingers crossed MTH still has this tooling and we see it offered again - SOON !!! Cheers !!!😜
I would like to see them do a GE C39-8 “humpback.” No one has done this in O-scale that I’m aware of.
Other things I would be interested in:
- Premier PRR SD9 with blind center axles (#s 2 and 5), NOT inner axles or no blind axles
- Premier PRR FM “Erie Built” A-B sets, same axle configuration as above
- Premier PRR GE U30C, same axle configuration as above
@jim sutter posted:I would like to see them produce a 2500 H.P. Transfer Diesel.
MTH has produced the transfer diesels in the past.
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Jim
Yes, Mr. Sandman I know. They did it several years ago. Now, I would like for them to re-do it.
I still want a New Haven mountain with Vanderbilt tender.
@jim sutter posted:Yes, Mr. Sandman I know. They did it several years ago. Now, I would like for them to re-do it.
The title of your thread says NEW not run again...
If your looking for a new model - not likely. Probably when cows fly.
If they still have the tooling, it’s possible.
If you want an old model but with upgrades, who knows but don’t hold your breath.
If you want an as-is old model rerun, email them (lots of people) and keep your fingers crossed.
Jim Sandman,
You are correct. Therefore I changed the title.
@jim sutter posted:Jim Sandman,
You are correct. Therefore I changed the title.
Jim Sutter your awesome! I remember chuckling when I called your store and bought a whole town of Lionel buildings and houses.
Enjoy
Jim
How about an ALCO CENTURY 415? Never done in O gauge.
Also high hood ALCO's like what was used on the Southern and Norfolk and Western->CNW.
Maybe a steeplecab or two?
@jim sutter posted:I would like to see them produce a 2500 H.P. Transfer Diesel.
Well, they did one of those, I have it.
@MELGAR posted:MTH has built just about any locomotive I could ask for. But they have yet to build a scale-sized New York Central K-Class 4-6-2 Pacific-type steam locomotive. Even at today's prices, I would be a buyer for that one. There are others on my list. But I will leave it at just this one for now.
MELGAR
Early on, in the PS1 era, they made some very nice heavy Pacifics. They seemed to be NYC types to my eye. Were they not?
@RoyBoy posted:Early on, in the PS1 era, they made some very nice heavy Pacifics. They seemed to be NYC types to my eye. Were they not?
Nope, ….really, they’re not even close,….while Lionel & MTH both for the most part used common USRA designs, the Central used their own design for a Pacific. Most notably, the boiler course, ……USRA’s have a tapered boiler course, whereas, the Central used a straight boiler course…..( or nearly straight ) K class Pacifics of the Central proper and her subs looked closer in relation to a Hudson, to which they were replaced by,…..
Pat
@RoyBoy posted:Early on, in the PS1 era, they made some very nice heavy Pacifics. They seemed to be NYC types to my eye. Were they not?
There was a Central RR of New Jersey Baldwin P47 Blue Comet 4-6-2 Pacific type #833 (20-3028-1) delivered in 1998. Entirely unlike a New York Central K-Class Pacific. If they were to make a New York Central K-Class, it would have to be from new and correct tooling similar to the way that NYC 4-6-4 Hudson locomotive models are done.
MELGAR
Baldwin S-12. Preferably in the SMS green paint scheme else I'll just do it myself.
A re-run of the PRR P5 boxcab as a 3/2 version; but without the zinc pest problem.
@jim sutter posted:I would like to see them produce a 2500 H.P. Transfer Diesel.
Me too in ps 3.0.
Another run of the Cab Forward I missed them last couple times now I would like to pick up one new or used would be good PS2 or PS3
Rerun of the 2-8-0 H9 WM, or a plain black unmarked version.
Dave
@Dtrainmaster posted:Rerun of the 2-8-0 H9 WM, or a plain black unmarked version.
Dave
Very Nice Engine !!!!!
Rerun of previous roads would be nice but also where prototypical, new roads too !!!
I would be in for a rerun of the PRR transfer diesel. I didn't have the resources when they first came out; now they come up on auction only so often. Would prefer then brand new PS3 version.
I would like to have a New Haven Railroad I-4 Pacific or I-5 Hudson steam locomotive model by MTH. Both of them have been done by Weaver in brass but an MTH version with PS3 electronics would be better. Years ago, MTH considered doing the New Haven I-5 but apparently didn't get enough orders to be cost-effective. I don't think either of these will ever be produced again. It seems to me that steam locomotives from only the largest railroads (PRR, NYC, UP, SP) can generate sufficient orders to cover the current costs of design and manufacturing and earn a profit.
MELGAR
MTH Starter Sets....simple gateway for new customers....
@prrhorseshoecurve posted:Me too in ps 3.0.
I'd rather have it in PS/2 3V or Lionel Legacy. I've started to dislike the PS/3 boards.
FL9 New Haven and Metro North MTH or Lionel please
@gunrunnerjohn posted:I'd rather have it in PS/2 3V or Lionel Legacy. I've started to dislike the PS/3 boards.
I’ve heard that too. I like the no battery feature though. Some batteries are an absolute bugger to get out !!!!!
I would be in for a new run of the transfer locomotives if they left the PRR train phone antenna off. Better yet do a correct version of the E J & E transfer locomotive
@MR-150 posted:I would be in for a new run of the transfer locomotives if they left the PRR train phone antenna off. Better yet do a correct version of the E J & E transfer locomotive
New tooling would be required to produce a Baldwin unit (like the EJ&E) vs. the previous Lima-built unit. There are many differences between the two.
@gunrunnerjohn posted:I'd rather have it in PS/2 3V or Lionel Legacy. I've started to dislike the PS/3 boards.
GRJ,
Happy holidays!
Why do you dislike PS3 boards? And why would you prefer a PS2 3V with a battery replacement instead of a PS3? I appreciate your insight.
Also, can you clarify PS2 3V versus the earlier PS2? Wasn't the earlier version a 5V BCR1? But the actual earlier version used a NiCad 8.4 volt battery, right? Why is the battery replacement a 5V but the battery was an 8.4 volt? And to make it even more confusing, MTH said in its engine manuals that you can temporarily use a 9 volt battery instead of an 8.4 V?
Mike
@IRON HORSE posted:GRJ,
Happy holidays!
Why do you dislike PS3 boards? And why would you prefer a PS2 3V with a battery replacement instead of a PS3? I appreciate your insight.
Also, can you clarify PS2 3V versus the earlier PS2? Wasn't the earlier version a 5V BCR1? But the actual earlier version used a NiCad 8.4 volt battery, right? Why is the battery replacement a 5V but the battery was an 8.4 volt? And to make it even more confusing, MTH said in its engine manuals that you can temporarily use a 9 volt battery instead of an 8.4 V?
Mike
I’m not GRJ, but I think the preference for the PS2 3v might be due to the fact that the PS3 boards have a few software “quirks” when doing MU consists and other behaviors like being able to run PS2 units in “dark mode”.
Now on the PS2 3V vs 5V. The thing to remember with those is that the voltage refers to the logic voltage. I think the first generation PS2 boards used 5V TTL for the digital circuits and the newer ones used 3.3V CMOS.
The battery voltage is not what drives the naming, AFAIK.
P.S. I wouldn’t connect a 9V alkaline battery to the PS2 boards. Doing so can damage the charging circuitry.
I'd love a re-run of the RK Imperial Y6B but that is just me
Bryce
@IRON HORSE posted:Why do you dislike PS3 boards? And why would you prefer a PS2 3V with a battery replacement instead of a PS3? I appreciate your insight.
Also, can you clarify PS2 3V versus the earlier PS2? Wasn't the earlier version a 5V BCR1? But the actual earlier version used a NiCad 8.4 volt battery, right? Why is the battery replacement a 5V but the battery was an 8.4 volt? And to make it even more confusing, MTH said in its engine manuals that you can temporarily use a 9 volt battery instead of an 8.4 V?
I have had more failures and problems with PS/3 boards per capita than with the 3V PS/2 boards. Also a simple flaw on a PS/3 board frequently is non-repairable. I refer to the lighting circuits for instance. If you pinch a wire and kill the a lighting output on the PS/2 board, you can frequently replace the driver FET, for the PS/3 board it's usually fatal to the lighting circuit. The list goes on...
With the demise of any meaningful support from MTH, if you "brick" a PS/3 board, you're likely out of luck. Several years back, I ran into a situation where a bad sound file was actually bricking the PS/3 steam tender board. The only way to recover them was to send them back to MTH, I'm not sure where I'd send them now.
@IRON HORSE posted:
Also, can you clarify PS2 3V versus the earlier PS2? Wasn't the earlier version a 5V BCR1? But the actual earlier version used a NiCad 8.4 volt battery, right? Why is the battery replacement a 5V but the battery was an 8.4 volt? And to make it even more confusing, MTH said in its engine manuals that you can temporarily use a 9 volt battery instead of an 8.4 V?
There are two major rungs in the PS/2 board family tree, the 5V board used a 9V rechargeable battery, the 3V board used a 2.4V battery stack. The 3V or 5V refers to the type of logic and it's operating voltage used on the board.
There is one remake that is on my holy grail that I remember seeing at @jim sutter's shop when it came out: the P&LE A-2 Berkshire. Will it fit in my current layout? Nope. But to this day it's on my holy grail list.
Some more I thought of:
- Premier version of a PRR C630 or C628
- Premier version of a PRR RSD-4
- Premier PRR EMD E7/8 A-B-A in Tuscan Red
- Premier PRR ALCo PA A-B-A in Tuscan Red
All with no blind axles or with blind center axles (#s 2 and 5), NOT the inner axles near the fuel tank.
Also:
- Premier PRR GG1 #4800 “Old Rivets” in DLGE with Futura lettering
- I second Tall J’s suggestion for a rerun of the P&LE A-2 Berkshire. I think it’d be a big seller and would also be a great candidate to offer in 2-rail.
A re-run if the Premier PRR I1 2-10-0 with the short tender would be hard to resist.
@Scott R posted:A re-run if the Premier PRR I1 2-10-0 with the short tender would be hard to resist.
I second this one (w/short tender). I would double head it with my current I1 to pull my 20+ Atlas H21 hoppers.
On the list I have from Atlas, it looks like they have the MTH EMD E8's now. Plus, the EMD E6's.
russ
Dreyfuss Hudson, with the correct color of gray, 2 and 3 rail versions.
@gunrunnerjohn posted:I have had more failures and problems with PS/3 boards per capita than with the 3V PS/2 boards. Also a simple flaw on a PS/3 board frequently is non-repairable. I refer to the lighting circuits for instance. If you pinch a wire and kill the a lighting output on the PS/2 board, you can frequently replace the driver FET, for the PS/3 board it's usually fatal to the lighting circuit. The list goes on...
With the demise of any meaningful support from MTH, if you "brick" a PS/3 board, you're likely out of luck. Several years back, I ran into a situation where a bad sound file was actually bricking the PS/3 steam tender board. The only way to recover them was to send them back to MTH, I'm not sure where I'd send them now.
@IRON HORSE posted:
There are two major rungs in the PS/2 board family tree, the 5V board used a 9V rechargeable battery, the 3V board used a 2.4V battery stack. The 3V or 5V refers to the type of logic and it's operating voltage used on the board.
Here is an M.T.H. location to contact about the boards.
https://www.google.com/maps/pl...424925!4d-86.4361194
Andrew
The Premier O scale GP35 has not been run in the original 1964-1965 paint scheme of the SOO LINE
They have not yet made the GP50 for CONRAIL, Burlington Northern, and Chicago & North Western
Andrew
Premier O scale B23-7/B30-7 diesel-electric locomotive from General Electric
Chessie System C&O is my choice.
Andrew
A VIA Rail Premier F-unit AB set would be nice...
On the rerun side, Russian decapods or PS3 streetcars are almost impossible to find (and even rarer at a reasonable used price!)
How about some Tinplate Traditions items. Maybe they could test the waters to see if a market still exists. If they don’t get the orders then they don’t have to proceed any farther.
@falconservice posted:Here is an M.T.H. location to contact about the boards.
I'm sure you meant this as a joke, right?
@gunrunnerjohn posted:I'm sure you meant this as a joke, right?
Give them a call and see what they say about the boards.
There are few options left.
You could call them out of desperation.
Andrew
Tinplate ACF CENTER FLOW 4600 cubic foot capacity 3-bay covered hoppers
Tinplate Greenbrier 5188 cubic foot capacity 3-bay covered hoppers
Andrew
@superwarp1 posted:
I’d go for that, but to be accurate wouldn’t the flatcar need to be an older prototype?
The PREMIER 60' flat cars could be produced in Great Northern and SOO LINE paint schemes from the 1965-1970 era.
Andrew
What I would like is for the current "MTH" to live up to it's build commitments! I have a special build item on order that MTH's web site still shows a" October 22" shipping commitment date!
Today I contacted the dealer for update info. Apparently MTH is now saying late Winter!
What can I say!
Ron
I only run non-scale MTH Rail King engines that can handle 042 curves. I would like to have in Rail King:
Boston & Albany 4-6-6T Commuter Engine
Baldwin Sharks in D&H Warbonnet livery
@gunrunnerjohn posted:I have had more failures and problems with PS/3 boards per capita than with the 3V PS/2 boards. Also a simple flaw on a PS/3 board frequently is non-repairable. I refer to the lighting circuits for instance. If you pinch a wire and kill the a lighting output on the PS/2 board, you can frequently replace the driver FET, for the PS/3 board it's usually fatal to the lighting circuit. The list goes on...
With the demise of any meaningful support from MTH, if you "brick" a PS/3 board, you're likely out of luck. Several years back, I ran into a situation where a bad sound file was actually bricking the PS/3 steam tender board. The only way to recover them was to send them back to MTH, I'm not sure where I'd send them now.
Pretty sobering observation of issues with MTH engines. Obviously noone wants to spend a boatload of money for an engine that can't be repaired. Is Atlas O going to be a service option for at least those ex-MTH engines they're now marketing in case of issues with PS/3 boards?
@PRRronbh posted:What I would like is for the current "MTH" to live up to it's build commitments! I have a special build item on order that MTH's web site still shows a" October 22" shipping commitment date!
Today I contacted the dealer for update info. Apparently MTH is now saying late Winter!
What can I say!
Ron
That seems to be the norm. The new Premier Pacifics were announced in early 2021 with a delivery of October 2021 (according to the dealer I bought one of mine from); that didn't happen, so it then became a 2022 delivery, and we finally got them in July 2022.
Personally, I have no problem with delays like this as long as I haven't put down a deposit.
I'd like to see MTH release a Precision National rent-a-rec GP7/9 or GP35. Every railroad needs some short term motive power at some time or other.