I received my set last afternoon,(UP mth solid rocket transport)  what a beautiful huge 8 axel cars, I hesitate for a few years to add it to my collection afraid they will not fit in my layout due to their width 3 1/4" I had no problem, even they are huge they fit pretty well with a little more hang out, about 1/8" more than a premier 70 fotter passenger car.
I adquiere this set from Mr. Muffin. I order it Friday night and get it next Wednesday free shipping, couldn't believe. When I tried to log in the engine in my system it read ENGINE ERROR I email Mr Muffin costumer service  about 9:00 pm and they reply me with what to tray and offer me the alternative to send the engine back for a replacement if I could not fix it, I did what he suggested, reset the engine from the Z-400 transformer. Here how to do it, tap whistle-horn once, tap bell bottom 5 times, engine is reset, place the engine back to track log it in and there is this beauty running.Once again thank you Mr. Muffin, I am still wondering how you have customer tech support at midnight lol, thanks
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Originally Posted by Tim Lewis:

My friend has the one that they had the Southern Passenger car ...

FYI for folks who have one of the newer sets w/o the passenger car included... MTH offered that as a separate-sale item this time around.

 

I agree with Lee.  It's a unique offering, and the great price is a real bonus.

 

David

Originally Posted by Charlienassau:

I believe we still have these on our web site.

Yup, we do too. Two sets. $679.96 shipped. 

 

Thanks for for the kind words. So glad it worked out. 

Originally Posted by seafox:

       
I received my set last afternoon,(UP mth solid rocket transport)  what a beautiful huge 8 axel cars, I hesitate for a few years to add it to my collection afraid they will not fit in my layout due to their width 3 1/4" I had no problem, even they are huge they fit pretty well with a little more hang out, about 1/8" more than a premier 70 fotter passenger car.
I adquiere this set from Mr. Muffin. I order it Friday night and get it next Wednesday free shipping, couldn't believe. When I tried to log in the engine in my system it read ENGINE ERROR I email Mr Muffin costumer service  about 9:00 pm and they reply me with what to tray and offer me the alternative to send the engine back for a replacement if I could not fix it, I did what he suggested, reset the engine from the Z-400 transformer. Here how to do it, tap whistle-horn once, tap bell bottom 5 times, engine is reset, place the engine back to track log it in and there is this beauty running.Once again thank you Mr. Muffin, I am still wondering how you have customer tech support at midnight lol, thanks
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I bough my set from Mr Muffin, they still has one, best price I found, very fast shipping great customer service, MTH still has the UP set to be order from your local store, I am very happy with my new acquisition, I lashed up an AC6000 and add buffer cars looks amazingly Good.0501150604a0501150604a

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Originally Posted by Forrest Jerome:
I run mine with the covers off. More interesting to me that way.

I agree, Forrest.  I ended up buying two sets.  One I run with the covers off - just so interesting to see the various parts of the rocket inside.  The other I run with the covers on, but empty (how can you tell?).  I have assembled the various parts of the rocket and have it on display complete.  BIG rocket.  Very cool!

This thread inspired me to make a special display shelf for the rocket itself.  As I said I had the rocket sections from one of my sets out of the cars and assembled, but I had the rocket standing in an out of the way corner. There really wasn't a great place to show it off.  Most of the display areas in my train-room are made to show off long, low things, not tall, narrow things.  So . . . took all of ten minutes to make and mount.

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No, Mth never made the leader car, meant to make clearance, I just bough today a car to build one but I like the car so much I think I wiil keep it as it is.Love your display, I wish to have a space but I have my layout in the car garage, here in FL forget it the humidity and heat will damage the locomotives.Love the rocket assembled.0502151840

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Originally Posted by WestinghouseEMDdemoguy:
I really really like this set but have no desire for the engine. thanks to Lee, I want them more since I had no idea you could assemble the rocket segments!!

We can pull the engine out of a set and just sell you the cars. Call us tomorrow. 317.569.1999.

 

thanks. 

Originally Posted by Ironhorseman:

In the 2010 V1 catalog which lists the set that was lead by the AC4400, MTH suggests the Missouri Pacific - 50’ High Cube Box Car Set 20-90528 as buffer cars. 

 

-WestinghouseEMDdemoguy - sets are available without an engine! See page 126 MTH 2014 v1 catalog.

Were. All gone. 

With the price for the set, engine plus 5 rocket cars, you get better deal than with the cars set only, I have the Dash8 from NS, and now I add the same engine from the set but UP, is beautiful, another engine to my fleet won't hurt nobody so I'm very happy, I mean I am talking if you get a good deal like the one I got from Mr. Muffin.1430821027015-1025729756

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Originally Posted by Charlienassau:

Don't forget we have this with the extra 15% off as part of May Mayhem sale too!

Lol. No Mayhem here. Mrs Muffin is in town. 

To be honest I couldn't resisted after Lee posted his thread, I think he kick up the sales, I am very happy with this set and happiest after found out that its really goes well in spite of its width 3 1/4"  through my layout. Now I can wait for the Lionel Legacy MOW crane I ordered last year and now reschedule for Dec.2015. 

Originally Posted by AMCDave:

For a dog...your layout has to be the best in the land!!!! In fact you nay be the only dog model railroader I have ever known!!!!!

 

xxz

 

Congrats on the layout!!! 

Cute puppy, but your avatar is supposed to be a picture of you. Not fussing, but don't want to see your picture deleted and have you wonder "what happened?".

Originally Posted by MrMuffin'sTrains:
Originally Posted by Ironhorseman:

In the 2010 V1 catalog which lists the set that was lead by the AC4400, MTH suggests the Missouri Pacific - 50’ High Cube Box Car Set 20-90528 as buffer cars. 

 

-WestinghouseEMDdemoguy - sets are available without an engine! See page 126 MTH 2014 v1 catalog.

Were. All gone. 

The MTH product locator is showing one available under "find it locally"!

Originally Posted by MrMuffin'sTrains:
Originally Posted by WestinghouseEMDdemoguy:
I really really like this set but have no desire for the engine. thanks to Lee, I want them more since I had no idea you could assemble the rocket segments!!

We can pull the engine out of a set and just sell you the cars. Call us tomorrow. 317.569.1999.

 

thanks. 

Would you do this with other MTH sets, especially if they were "pre-ordered"?  I've often found a set I want but would prefer a different engine.

Originally Posted by Ironhorseman:
Originally Posted by MrMuffin'sTrains:
Originally Posted by WestinghouseEMDdemoguy:
I really really like this set but have no desire for the engine. thanks to Lee, I want them more since I had no idea you could assemble the rocket segments!!

We can pull the engine out of a set and just sell you the cars. Call us tomorrow. 317.569.1999.

 

thanks. 

Would you do this with other MTH sets, especially if they were "pre-ordered"?  I've often found a set I want but would prefer a different engine.

Sure - we have done this for several of you guys on the Forum....

As soon as Charlie sells out, give us a try.... we have two UP sets and one NS set left.... MTH sold out today - guess where their last set went?......

Originally Posted by Lee Willis:

This thread inspired me to make a special display shelf for the rocket itself.  As I said I had the rocket sections from one of my sets out of the cars and assembled, but I had the rocket standing in an out of the way corner. There really wasn't a great place to show it off.  Most of the display areas in my train-room are made to show off long, low things, not tall, narrow things.  So . . . took all of ten minutes to make and mount.

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I have the 2010 NASA version of this set and I want to know how you separated the rocket parts from the cars.  Maybe I'm missing something but the rocket parts seem to be glued to the cars.

"I have the 2010 NASA version of this set and I want to know how you separated the rocket parts from the cars.  Maybe I'm missing something but the rocket parts seem to be glued to the cars."

 

IIRC, the segments are held in place by small screws through the bottom of the car. 

Fabulous Forrest at the Brewer Ave & Pacific RR 

Sorry.

 

20-20392-1 is UP and 20-20393-1 is NS. You can also do a search for "rocket" and they should pop up. 

 

Thanks. 

Well, we are down to one UP set, and MTH is sold out. Thanks Lee, for this review. This has really been fun. 

 

Steve...... 

We have a couple of these sets in stock.

Thanks

Pat

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It seems appropriate that the Space Age and the Railroad Age connect at Promontory, Utah, where the Golden Spike was driven in 1869 to complete the first transcontinental railroad. For over three decades, the solid rocket motors that have boosted the Space Shuttle and other American endeavors into outer space have been built at the ATK plant in Promontory and shipped by rail to Kennedy Space Center (KSC) at Cape Canaveral. The Shuttle booster sections, which traveled the route from 1981–2010, were each 12’ wide and weighed 150 tons, half again the capacity of a typical freight car. Thus the dedicated trains assigned to this route consist of 4-truck heavy-duty flat cars with large steel covers for both protection and secrecy; each fully loaded car weighs over 250 tons. Often bringing up the rear is a retired Southern passenger car housing ATK and NASA engineers, keeping watch on what is essentially a load of 4–5 million pounds of explosives. On their way from the Southwest to the Southeast, the rocket trains travel over Union Pacific, Kansas City Southern, CSX and Florida East Coast rails before finishing their trip behind NASA’s own SW1500 switchers (which have also been offered as M.T.H. models). After being fished out of the Atlantic Ocean, the spent boosters travel the same route back to ATK for refueling. Our Premier six-car Solid Rocket Transport train includes five authentic 47’ TTX heavy-duty flat cars with removable covers that reveal a five-piece rocket model. When assembled, the rocket measures 30 3/4” in height or nearly 123 scale feet! The Southern personnel car is also available as an add-on item. Features Set Includes (5) 47' TTX Heavy Duty Flat Cars with Removable Covers & Rocket Sections Flat Car Features Metal Wheels and Axles Sprung Die-Cast 4-Wheel Trucks Operating Die-Cast Metal Couplers Authentic Paint Scheme Fast-Angle Wheel Sets Needle-Point Axles Separate Metal Handrails Decorative Brake Wheels Intricately Detailed Durable ABS Bodies Removable Cover Removable Rocket Section 1:48 Scale Dimensions
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I just ran mine tonight, and the cars were derailing every loop around the track. Has anyone else had this problem?  Seems like they are too lite.

No issues with mine running on 072 curves. Certainly don't think they are to light with the diecast trucks and loads. I would guess the derailing has to do with your track.

 

    Bill T

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