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I purchased  a Railking PS3 red bird and Lov set recently ....I also own the original Premier N Train ....I’m really into the sound packages .... my feeling is that the PS3 sounds are not as interesting as the PS2 sets ... the mix on the N train is really good ... radio chatter is layered in to the conductors commands .... for a nice effect .... the ps 3 while having better fidelity overall seems a little more generic and bland ....any one else have an opinion? I’m thinking of maybe buying the PS2 version of the worlds fair train instead of the new ps3 version for this reason ... has anyone been able to compare the two? Any opinions?

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gladstone23 posted:

I purchased  a Railking PS3 red bird and Lov set recently ....I also own the original Premier N Train ....I’m really into the sound packages .... my feeling is that the PS3 sounds are not as interesting as the PS2 sets ... the mix on the N train is really good ... radio chatter is layered in to the conductors commands .... for a nice effect .... the ps 3 while having better fidelity overall seems a little more generic and bland ....any one else have an opinion? I’m thinking of maybe buying the PS2 version of the worlds fair train instead of the new ps3 version for this reason ... has anyone been able to compare the two? Any opinions?

Hello, the R32 N train has some of the best subway station stop sequences made by Mth in my opinion. Accurate transfers loud brakes and even car horns at the elevated stations. Which Redbirds did you buy? The R33s? Or the R26? I heard the r26 and I wasn't trilled. I have the R21 Redbirds from 2000 and love them! 

As far as the worlds fair sets go I like the 2012 r36's the best. Clear sounds, you can hear ppl platform commotion and it has local and express stops. The 1st run and the new R33s only have express stops.  I feel the 1st run sounds are too quiet, a lot of dead air when the train stops at a station.

The R33s has a good sound set too, new horn and the train announces "flushing express to the NY worlds fair" with accurate express stops. But again no car horns or police sirens and very faint atmospheric sounds.... dead air.

Thanks for the replies ... DJ I enjoy your you tube channel... nice work ... I have the new R33 Redbirds ... yes the new horn is nice ... I appreciate the insights ... just what I was looking for ...  your insights confirm what I am hearing ... in regards to liking the sound set better in the 2012 R -36  Worlds Fair.... if I purchase the 2016 release of the R33 worlds Fair , I guess I could try and download the 2012  sound set From the R-36 into the R-33 , if that makes sense .... is the R-36 a much different shape than the R-36 ? Was the original train an R-36 ?

gladstone23 posted:

Thanks for the replies ... DJ I enjoy your you tube channel... nice work ... I have the new R33 Redbirds ... yes the new horn is nice ... I appreciate the insights ... just what I was looking for ...  your insights confirm what I am hearing ... in regards to liking the sound set better in the 2012 R -36  Worlds Fair.... if I purchase the 2016 release of the R33 worlds Fair , I guess I could try and download the 2012  sound set From the R-36 into the R-33 , if that makes sense .... is the R-36 a much different shape than the R-36 ? Was the original train an R-36 ?

From 1964 to 2003 the whole line ran R36 cars. The R33s was an extra car that was added to make an 11 car train. The proper way to run the worlds fair flushing train would be an even number of R36 cars (let's say 6) then add 1 R33s car. The S in R33s stands for single, wile the R36 cars were semi permanently coupled married pairs. The same would apply to when they were re painted in the Redbirds scheme. Unfortunately Mth hasn't made R36 Redbirds yet. And yes you could swap the sounds out. Both sets make stops on the same route.

could you do a video of the Redbirds R33s? No one has done it and I'm curious to hear the stops.

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I'm just happy to have a World's Fair set, which arrives today. I won't be able to hear dead air anyway; there's a lot of commotion on the layout when running more than one train.

I would prefer the original set because of the decals. I have two other sets that are P2, and the E Train with World Trade that's P1. I love them all. Let's see how the new P3 WF sounds, but again, I'm just glad to be able to have one. Some of the prices on the old P2 trains are high, and I'm hesitant to buy them used.

Here's some photos of the mth R36 cars from like 2003 with factory installed logos and a new R33s. The logo on the R36 is mth, the logo on the R33s is from www.islandmodelworks.com they are an exact match, they are cheap and easy to install. Just a little micro set decal solution diluted with alcohaul and the decal will bond.

If you wait you can usually find used p2 subways going cheap or at auction. I got my R12's for like $215.00 and works perfectly. Same with my red R17's. The earlier sets will require some maintenance. (Traction tires, oil, new battery & new speaker) but once that's done your good to go! IMG_6775IMG_6776IMG_6777

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