New 4-6-0 Camelback audio problem.

The universal remote should only work with Bluetooth on. Have you tried the LC app or just controlling the locomotive conventionally

Do you get background sounds just no user activated sounds?

Still the same.  No activated sounds via app or universal remote, throttle works fine. 

It sounds broken.  While I don't normally run with BT, I tried the Universal Remote with my new Camelback, works fine with it.

@BamaRider posted:

Still the same.  No activated sounds via app or universal remote, throttle works fine. 

So you have background sounds?

check the IR connection between the locomotive and tender of that is out of alignment you won’t get anything. A good indication of weather or not it’s reviving data is when you hear chuffing sounds

while I hope to help a simple fix if this gets too in depth be prepared to contact your dealer or Lionel as they should make anything incorrect right

Another expensive locomotive, brand new in box,   bought at retail, that doesn't work.

Geez, . . .I thought I was the only one.  :-(

This is the craziest hobby ever!

Mannyrock

@BamaRider posted:

My layout is a modest 4X8 powered by the standard power pack found in a train set.

Could this be happening because this is a Legacy model and the layout is powered with a starter set power pack?

Brad

@B rad posted:

Could this be happening because this is a Legacy model and the layout is powered with a starter set power pack?

Brad

Ding ding ding.

Can’t believe I skimmed over that, then again a small power pack in a starter set to me is more like a CW-80 or the 40W version

LEGACY locomotives should be powered with AC power ONLY!

Exactly what powerpack are we talking about?

The power pak that comes in the starter set.  I'm new at this and don't know anything, the locomotive runs fine but no sounds, but when the loco is disconnected from the tender I have idle sounds, but no activated sounds from the app or universal.  The manual gives instructions how to make the horn work (press the button) but nothing happens. 

Perhaps I am doing something wrong?  I'd rather not send it back to Lionel, but I paid a bunch of money for it, so will if I have to. 

Just to be clear: a Power Pak puts out DC power to the track.  A transformer puts out AC.  Which do you have?  What is the output wattage (VA) rating?  Hopefully you won't tell us you're using a little DC wall-wart plugged directly into the track...

Jon

@BamaRider posted:

The power pak that comes in the starter set.

Pictures?  Label information?

@KOOLjock1 posted:

Hopefully you won't tell us you're using a little DC wall-wart plugged directly into the track...

Jon

That's exactly what it sounds like. Lionchief starter sets use a DC power supply which will work with any LC, LC+ or LC+ 2.0 but not Legacy.

Legacy locomotives run on AC power only. I would not try to run your Legacy model in that environment until your issue is resolved to prevent damage to your locomotive.

The folks on this forum will be great help for you to get what you need. I run DCS with a Z1000 transformer with a TIU and Wifi unit for bluetooth and phone app use for both Lionel and MTH trains.

You need a transformer that will supply the AC power you need but there are more experienced folks here that may have better advice.

Brad

First we need to know what transformer is in use now.

Please help I don't know anything about Legacy trains.   I bought this train thinking I had everything to make it work.  I have a modest layout this is my first train that is above basic. 

If I bought a CW 80 transformer and a CAB1 remote, would I have everything to make it work?

Will my train work if I have CW 80 transformer with the basic Universal remote?

As we've mentioned above, a Legacy engine needs AC power to the track.  Starter sets are designed to run on either AC or DC, and come with much cheaper DC power supplies.  You will need SOME kind of AC transformer.  A CW-80, BW-80, GW-180, or almost any Post War AC output transformer will do.

If you wish to run in Command Mode, you'll need a CAB-1/Command Base set.  If you wish to run it in full Legacy mode, you'll need either the CAB-1L/1LCommand Base, or the #990 Legacy Base/CAB-2.

Jon

I’ll 2nd Jon’s comment

In this case if you like the universal remote, it’ll work just fine. But you do NEED a standard AC Transformer. Just about anything will work, keep in mind if you use a post war transformer you need to add the circuit protection and there’s a number of other threads explaining that.
If your looking at new transformers a CW-80 will definitely do it, if you think you may expand one day might look into a GW-180. And really if you don’t have any standard conventional locomotives there’s no need for the transformer handle and you could just use a 180W PowerHouse, to say the least there’s a number of different ways to skin this cat.

Get your new Legacy locomotive running correctly then you can decide if your going more into TMCC/LEGACY. I’d avoid a original Cab-1 as there’s better options now. If you want to get your toes wet I’d recommend getting a Cab-1L set.

The new Legacy and LionChief Plus 2.0 engine boards can operate on both AC and DC, but the audio board (RSL4) in the tender cannot. It only operates on AC. That's why you have engine control but no sound control.

Thanks Dave!  Glad you jumped in here!

Jon

@Dave Olson posted:

The new Legacy and LionChief Plus 2.0 engine boards can operate on both AC and DC, but the audio board (RSL4) in the tender cannot. It only operates on AC. That's why you have engine control but no sound control.

I'm curious in command why the requirement for AC?  The first thing in the line of power is a bridge rectifier, it would seem that it would work with AC or DC for command.  I can see why you need AC for conventional.