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I realize some folks had older verison of this but I had no scale Pacific since my K-line died.  

 

Mine arrived this afternoon (pictures below).  I've run it for maybe 20 minutes, although its upstairs now running in for an hour.

 

I run only conventional, so I tested no Legacy control features.

 

Everything looked right and worked well right out of the box although there were three anomalies :

1) I was worried at first because there was no sound.  However, the big volume control wheel (it must be 1.5 inches diameter) accessed through the rear tender hatch, was not only turned down to zero, but there is no sound at all for the first half of its travel, at leastl.  

2) the smoke unit switch (in the sanddome) is wired backward - setting it to NO SMK turns on the smoke.

3) volume is difference in sound (see below)

 

Overall this loco is what I expected.  It is a great size for my layout - just a bit smaller than a scale Hudson and fits nicely.  

 

It runs as expected - in other words, extremely well, with flawless cruise up and down  slopes, even when pulling 15 cars a a caboose.  This one runs at about 5-7 mph smoothly at around just 10 Volts (without any cars attached) - at which point the sound wants to keep cutting in and out.  

 

I KNOW LIONEL LISTS IT AS O-54, (edit - I was wrong, ithe catalog does say 0-54 although the passenger cars to match are 054)BUT IT MADE I AROUND MY UPPER 36" LOOP which has switchbacks and slopes that enter curves and everything else that could challenge a loco.  It tracked well without problem on all the 36" curves and through 36", 48", 60," and 72" inch switches including a back to back S of OF TWO 60"ers with no problems.  The rear of the cab juts out to the side more than I expected on curves.  

 

Lights work well, etc.  Nothing new there.  Whistle and bell are good but about average for this price range, but not memorable in any way.  Whistle steam effect is very good.  

 

Railsounds is okay, but somehow not as exceptional as in the recent Northern - this one sounds a bit flatter and less dynamic for some reason.  However, it is equal to that in the new MTH European 241.A (PS3) I recently got - its not bad, just not as good as the best Legacy steam I've heard.  

 

There is a substantial difference in the chuffing volume - more than on any other loco I have -- between the volume level at idle (in neutral) which is very very quiet, and the volume when moving - its like someone instantly doubles or triples the volume a lot as soon as it starts.  Other locos make a bit more sound when they run but the volume difference is not nearly as substantial.  

 

What I like best is the sole reason I bought the Southern Crescent version as opposed to either of the other two: the applied details/piping and such on this particular version look much better to me,  particularly those details on the front third of the loco.  It is all very good - a lot of "separately applied" parts.  I love the sense of complex industrial machinery that all those parts convey.

 

Paint quality and print quality is very good - flawless as near as I can tell, and on this one there is more than the usual number of things that could go wrong.  I don't like the paint sheen: the green and red have a type of mild satin finish that makes the loco look like much llike it is made of plastic.  I do not like the paint scheme either.  I realize many think it gorgeous, and I agree, but its too fancy for me.  And this brings up what many will consider sacrilege.  I bought the Southern Crescent version because of that attached equipment with the intent to repaint it flat black, weather it a bit, and relabel it UP (everything on my layout except the Vision Hudson is SF or UP).  In the mean time, here are pictures now, in original paint. 

Crescent 1

Crescent 2

Crescent 3

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Good report Lee,  thanks!

She certainly is pretty but I'm with you on the 'glossy' finish. I'd much prefer the black too but would keep it Southern.

What keeps you from installing Legacy/TMCC or DCS on your layout if I may ask?

You're missing a whole lot of interesting stuff!  I know, I 'held out' for almost a year before I added just TMCC and it opened a great new train experience for me!

c.sam: I work with digital control systems at work and computerized Smart everythings all day long.  The train layout is an escape from all that for me - I just don't want computers there.   I realize I give up a lot of features without DCC, but I have all the fun I need!

 

Greg - I guess you are right - this is 6-11334, as listed on page 24 of the just-released 2012 Signature catalog, -- the Pacific also offered as the Blue Comet with different hardware attache on it - its the passenger cars that come with it that are rated at only 0-54.

Interesting comments on the engine's color. I wonder what the passenger cars' finish will be? My Lionel Southern PS-4 No. 1403 from 2006 doesn't have a sheen finish like you're describing - it's flatter....no plastic look at all.

 

From your pictures, a major cosmetic difference I see from Lionel's 2003 Crescent (and different from the new engine's catalog picture) is that the drivers and front truck wheels on this new engine are black. That's the same as what the 2006 PS-4 has (which is prototypical for that engine). The drivers and front truck wheels on the 2003 Crescent, however, are green, matching the shell.

 

Also, the roof on the new Crescent is red, whereas the on the 2003 version it is green. The 2006 PS-4 has black drivers and truck wheels like the new Crescent, and has a green roof like the old crescent.

 

So between the paint finish, different wheel colors, and different roof colors (and whatever else), it seems this Crescent has some significant cosmetic differences from the 2003 version.

 

In the old days, Lionel always made a few changes when they "re-issued" an engine. There was never a complete overlap - there were always some paint changes or detail changes or something different which differentiated the models. That seems to be true here, as well.

Last edited by breezinup

I imagine the "game" is still much the same - change it a bit just because . . .  

 

The paint sheen is not an issue to me since I will repaint, but I definately could not live with the sheen  if I wanted those colors.  The red roof -- I'm sorry, but it just doesn't work for me . . .  I will repaint into flat b lack and this will become a workhorse on my layout - something that run s nearly every day.

 

I have a new PS3 MTH European 241.A (a French Mountain steamer) that has spectacular paint and detail.  Just incredible.  i wish Lionel could match that on their recent engines.  On the other hand, PS3 notwithstanding, the 241.A has really second-rate sound compared to any recent Lionel, so I guess I can have anything I want but not everything at once . . . 

Originally Posted by Lee Willis:

I imagine the "game" is still much the same - change it a bit just because . . .  

 
Well, it's more than "just because." I think there are valid reasons. Among them is to preserve the value of the engine to the owner as something unique, so he doesn't feel undercut so much, which he might feel if an exact duplicatewas produced after he bought his engine or car. And Lionel is, to at least some extent, preserving the value of it's products, because they're all a little different.
Actually, I embrace this idea. By way of analogy, it you had three cars that were all exactly the same, that would be pretty dull, and there'd be nothing interesting about any one that would be different from the others. On the other hand, if they were different in at least some ways - say the interiors and/or exteriors were different colors, or perhaps they were equipped with different features - that would make each of them unique, more interesting, and each more valuable to you in their own way.
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