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Railroading in the New England states during the 20th Century was dominated by two railroads – the New York, New Haven and Hartford Railroad south of Boston, and the Boston and Maine Railroad north of Boston. A third railroad, the Boston & Albany, a subsidiary of the New York Central after 1900, ran East/West between the two. As a resident of New England, I’m most interested in these railroads, and my O Gauge model trains reflect that. I plan to post pictures of my models of New Haven, B&M and B&A locomotives and rolling stock in this thread, and I also would like to see yours, so please post them here. All New England railroads would be of interest.

The train on my layout today is powered by a model of Boston & Maine 2-6-0 “Mogul” steam locomotive #1455 (Lionel Trains 6-38019). It has TMCC, a Pittman motor, and it appeared in the 2005 Volume 1 catalog at an MSRP of $599.99. The pictures and video show it pulling two recently acquired Lionel wood passenger coaches (Lionel L2227100 Boston & Maine Wood Coach 2-Pack #2) on my 12’-by-8’ layout.

The B&M ran Mogul steam locomotives on branch lines in Massachusetts and New Hampshire, and in Boston commuter service. Locomotive #1455, a member of the B&M’s B-15 class, was built by ALCO in Manchester, New Hampshire in November 1907. After being superheated, the total weight of engine and tender (including coal and water) was 220,890 pounds, with a weight of 128,000 pounds on its 63-inch-diameter driving wheels. It produced about 25,000 pounds of tractive effort at 200 pounds-per-square-inch boiler pressure. The railroad sold it in July 1956. B&M #1455 is preserved at the Danbury Railway Museum in Connecticut.

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Here are a few sightings on my pike in Maine...

That 1455 Mogul gets around; here it is spotted hauling the local into Eastvale.

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Here we see a Maine Central E7 hauling a cut of MEC freight cars

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A B&M mixed local stops in North Hiram

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The Flying Yankee is ready to depart from Eastvale

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And of course at harvest season we expect to see cuts of BAR potato cars

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Here's my MTH B&M Mountain class pulling some hoppers through a pastoral scene of livestock, farm equipment and, uhm, an imminent alien invasion courtesy of Menards.

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Here's a video of my B&M work train running on the layout.

Certainly can't leave out the New Haven either! Here's my Alco PA set bringing a mixed freight in a double loop around both mainlines.

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@Wvm posted:

So happy to see you back Mel.  I have been looking for you on Any New Haven Fans. Hope all is well.  What happened to the other posts on this thread?

Wvm,

Thank you. I appreciate it.

Yesterday's post was deleted by the moderator because it was not in the correct Forum. This thread was posted by me again on Saturday afternoon (04-30-2022) in the photos/videos forum. I plan to continue posting my New England model trains in this thread. The pictures in my first post were taken on my 12'-by-8' layout. The picture below was taken on my 10'-by-5' layout which is a freelanced New England scene...

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What a great topic! Thanks, Mel!

I was born in Maine and have nice memories of seeing Maine Central and Boston and Maine in Rigby Yard as a kid. My Dad grew up in CT, and my favorite color is orange, so I like the New Haven too.

Now I live in the Boston area. The trains below are mine, except for the visiting Mogul. I have other New England stuff too but I'll need to dig up more pictures.

Best,

Alan P

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Born and raised in the Bronx......exposed to the New Haven and New York Central at a young age, which have become my favorites......then, acquired an interest in the PennCentral, New York Ontario and Western and Conrail along the way......

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Have a great and safe weekend, folks.......and, welcome back Mel!

Peter

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Boston & Albany 4-6-4 Hudson #606 – New England Model Trains

The Boston and Albany Railroad was created in 1867 from the combination of the Boston & Worcester Railroad and the Western Railroad of Massachusetts. Its main route ran east/west from Boston to Worcester, Springfield and Pittsfield, Massachusetts, and Chatham and Albany, New York. At Albany, some of its cars were combined with New York Central trains out of New York City and then continued west to Chicago. The B&A also provided commuter service between South Station in Boston and the city’s western suburbs. It remained an independent company until 1900, when it was leased to, and eventually absorbed by, the New York Central Railroad. The citizens of Massachusetts apparently were highly offended to see “New York” on trains passing through their towns – so much so that a few years after the lease began, the New York Central relented and reinstated “Boston & Albany” lettering on the B&A’s cars and locomotives.

The New York Central did offer some advantages to its subsidiary. The J-1a Hudson locomotives went into service on the NYC in 1927 and five J-2a types followed onto the B&A one year later. Instead of the 79-inch driving-wheel-diameter of the NYC versions, B&A’s three classes of Hudsons had 75-inch-diameter drivers to better negotiate the hilly terrain of the Berkshire Mountains. They also were modified with large rectangular sand boxes atop their boilers.

On my model railroad today is MTH Premier Boston & Albany J-1e 4-6-4 Hudson #606 (20-3583-1 with PS-3) which was offered at an MSRP of $1199.95 in the 2015 Volume 1 catalog. MTH says it can run on O-42 curves. The pictures and videos show it on the O-54 curves of my 10’-by-5’ layout pulling two MTH unlettered wood passenger coaches. Unfortunately, I don’t own the correct passenger cars for this engine.

B&A #606 was one of five locomotives in its J-2b class. It was built by ALCo’s Schenectady Works in August 1930 and scrapped in October 1952. The MTH model is a J-1e version that ran on the New York Central Railroad, and its driving-wheel diameter is not correct for B&A’s J-2b class engines, but the model’s green boiler and light-colored graphite smokebox and front are prototypical.

The total weight of a B&A J-2b class locomotive (engine and tender including coal and water) was 356,500 pounds, with a weight of about 187,500 pounds on its driving wheels. These engines ran at 240 pounds-per-square-inch boiler pressure and produced 55,400 pounds of tractive effort with booster, and 44,800 pounds without. As with all New York Central Hudsons, they had feedwater heaters and superheaters.

Please post photos of your New Haven, B&M, B&A and other New England railroad model locomotives and rolling stock in this thread.

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A group of New Haven engines stand ready to move passengers and freight on my NYNH&H/NYO&W layout. Passenger engines are 3 ea Weaver I-5 Streamlined Hudson's while the freight locos are a new mountain type R2-a from Mr. Muffins Trains, an Weaver Alco FA-2 FB-2 set, athumbnail [14)thumbnail [15)thumbnail [16)thumbnail [17) Lionel GP-9 and a pair of Weaver RS-3's.  One day I will learn to do a video. Old age is not easy.

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Mel, nice videos. I noticed your grade crossing sign in the second video. The B&A had similar signs. I made some using a copying machine at work. Can’t remember off hand which book I found it in. I think they came out close to scale just copying the image.  Made the post from basswood and just cut and pasted the paper print on to it and just painted up to the edges. The sign came sort of pre weathered right out of the copier.

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Most people, including me, don’t think of Canadian Pacific as a NE railroad, but CP operated on 234 miles of track under MEC rights between Mattawamkeag and Vanceboro, ME.  It was part of the primary line between Montreal, Quebec and St John, New Brunswick.  CP ALCO FA1 no. 4001 and FB1 no. 4403 are pictured at an unknown location.

Mel, thanks for the history lesson as well as the photos/videos of your fine layout!

John

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Wow Bill. 3 NH I5 Hudson’s. Boy I miss Weaver. They built both the I4 Pacific, I5 Hudson and also developed the Pullman Bradley cars. I can’t remember the year. My I5 graced the cover of CTT magazine. MTH in it’s heyday. Catalogued the I5 and I believe it was on the cover. I really wanted a diecast version. Got cancelled for lack of orders. I believe 3rd Rail listed the Comet at one time that was never built.

@Steam Crazy posted:

Mel, I own a DVD you'd like, "Whistler's Western - The Boston & Albany RR", from A&R Productions (www.classicrailroadvideos.com).  It has scenes of B&A steam, NYC, PC and Conrail diesels and historical info.  Maybe your 606 is on it; my B&A 4-6-6T 403 is shown.  I think owning a model is more fun after you've seen a photo or video of the prototype.  FYI.

John

John,

Thanks.

I enjoy a model more when I can compare it to pictures of the prototype and read about it. I will check out the video.

There seem to be fewer books and photographs of the Boston & Albany Railroad than the Boston & Maine and New Haven. The Boston & Albany should have its own historical society but I think that most of its information comes under the New York Central System Historical Society, whose publications have pictures and data. In my opinion, the best books on the B&A are "Boston and Albany - The New York Central in New England - Volumes 1 and 2" by Robert Willoughby Jones and Pine Tree Press - 1997. Another one is "Boston & Albany Steam Power" by Richard L. Stoving and Edward L. May from The Railroad Press - softcover 2010. The tracks of the B&A Grand Junction Branch passed through my college campus, and so began my interest...

MELGAR

Mel, I agree, there's much less B&A stuff out there.  I bought my DVD at the NYCSHS convention when it was in Worcester, so you're right about them being the source of most B&A material.

My interest in B&A developed because I lived near the B&A line in North Grafton, MA, where it connected with the short line Grafton & Upton.  Steam was gone, alas, by the time I could get out on my own, but I saw lots of first gen NYC diesel power.

John

@Dave_C posted:

Mel, nice videos. I noticed your grade crossing sign in the second video. The B&A had similar signs. I made some using a copying machine at work. Can’t remember off hand which book I found it in. I think they came out close to scale just copying the image.  Made the post from basswood and just cut and pasted the paper print on to it and just painted up to the edges. The sign came sort of pre weathered right out of the copier.

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Dave,

Your railroad crossing scene and sign are so realistic! Looks like a place in Worcester…

My sign was made from a small kit by Banta Modelworks but I chose not to use the supplied lettering. Instead, I made a text document with the lettering, saved it as a photograph, had it printed on photographic paper, and then glued the pieces to the painted crossbuck. My favorite scene on my model railroad.

MELGAR

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Johan, great scene!  I don't know if you have any CP trains, but now you know it fits your ME theme.   Telling you just in case you need an excuse to buy more trains!

John

John,

Thanks. Yes, I have plans to get the some CP trains for my home layout soon as I can build more modules first. I guess no matter how hard I try, there are always new temptations that just cant be resisted.

Johan

Great post Mel. I recently picked up the B&M Ten Wheeler I order but have yet to pick up the older style passenger cars Lionel ran with the Strasburg ones(former MTH tooling). I'm slowly branching out my railroads from the PRR & NYC. I have Mr.Muffins custom Berkshire on order for the B&A, and I have the Lionel New Haven Mohawk waiting for me as well. I just need to grab a New Haven caboose somewhere when I pop to the train store at some point in time.

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NH 0-6-0 no. 2334 has picked up a string of Narragansett Beer reefers from the brewery in Providence, RI.  The reefers will be delivered to the Providence classification yard, where they will will be cut into a freight destined for Worcester, MA.  The distributor will deliver them to thirsty Central MA residents.

No. 2334 is an Atlas model converted to MTH PS3.

John

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Resuscitated a Lionel 400 (B&O, of course).  Converted it into a B&M, which had one of the largest fleets of the Budd-built RDC's...

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Fresh coat of paint, body and chassis.  Re-awakened the horn.  Thoroughly cleaned the drive train.  E-unit worked perfectly.

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Turned out pretty well, methinks.

Fun project.

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New Haven Railroad EP-5 Electric “Motor” #371.

The New Haven Railroad’s electrification went into operation in 1907 for 21 miles between Woodlawn, New York and Stamford, Connecticut following a ban on steam locomotives in New York City enacted in 1903 and effective in 1908. The electrification was extended to New Haven in 1914, 72 miles from Grand Central Terminal. Steam locomotives, and later diesels, covered the remaining 157 miles to Boston until Amtrak completed its electrification around 2000, so a locomotive change was part of the scene at New Haven for decades. I used to stand on the platforms at New Haven and watch as the change was done.

The EP-5s began passenger service between New Haven and Grand Central Terminal in 1955, the last NYNH&HRR electric “motors” designed for that purpose. As with earlier New Haven electric passenger power, they operated on overhead 11,000 Volt AC catenary between New Haven and Woodlawn and then transitioned at speed to 650 Volt DC third-rail power for the remaining 12 miles into GCT on the tracks of the New York Central’s Harlem Division.

By the 1950s, the New Haven needed new electric passenger power and contracted with General Electric for a 4,000 horsepower, rectifier-equipped “motor.” They were delivered during the administration of Patrick McGinnis, whose wife was instrumental in creating the modern red-black-white paint schemes and block-lettered “NH” logo that became symbols of the railroad and subsequently appeared on many of its diesel locomotives.

The EP-5s weighed 350,500 pounds and produced 34,100 pounds of tractive force with 87,000 pounds allowed momentarily. They were geared for 105 miles-per-hour and ran at up to 90 miles-per-hour on the railroad, but the speed limit was 70. On the New Haven, they were known as “jets” because of the loud noise from blowers that cooled the electrical components. The EP-5s suffered from deferred maintenance due to the 1959 closing of the Van Nest Shops (in the Bronx, NY) and the New Haven’s deteriorating financial condition during the 1950s and ‘60s. When the New Haven was merged into the Penn Central in 1969, only six of the ten EP-5s were still running. All ten were scrapped by 1979.

In my opinion, the MTH scale-sized EP-5 is a landmark O gauge model, just as the Lionel version was in the 1950s. My model of New Haven EP-5 #371 was made by MTH Premier (20-2195-1) and was offered in the 1999 Volume 1 catalog at an MSRP of $349.95. As a New Haven fan, this model was one of my first modern O gauge acquisitions and it has been running on my model railroad for 23 years. It has PS1 and a BCR but no speed control. The sounds, including the cooling blowers, are authentic and loud. The PS1 electronics are satisfactory to me and have been trouble-free. Even without speed control, a well-broken-in EP-5 model with PS1 runs smoothly at low speeds, as seen in the second video.

By the 1950s, the precarious financial condition of the New Haven Railroad resulted in trains made up of multiple types of passenger cars, which is how I run model trains behind my EP-5. Attached below are pictures of the three types of passenger cars in the consist of my EP-5 model, including the 1949 fluted stainless steel sleeping car “Shippan Point” by MTH; the 1934/35 Pullman-Standard “American-Flyer” lightweight passenger car #8204 by Weaver Models; and the 1929 heavyweight parlor-lounge car “Flying Cloud,” also by MTH.

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Mel, thank you for another interesting history lesson.  I would have been a good student if I studied railroads!

Here’s a photo of my K-Line NH EP-5 being assisted by “DOCKSIDER” star 0-6-0T no. X-8688.  A friend has the MTH model; I believe the K-Line is it’s equal, but I haven’t examined them side by side.

My engine operates erratically with cruise engaged under conventional control, so I shut that feature off.  It runs smoothly that way, but I have be careful with the throttle.  The reduced power consumption with cruise off turns my model into a true “jet”!

John

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...snip... A friend has the MTH model; I believe the K-Line is it’s equal, but I haven’t examined them side by side. ...snip...

John

Several folks (into O scale brass) have told me the the K-Line EP-5 betters the Overland brass one so it should be nicer than the MTH one. The last Stout auction had an Overland one up for bid so I was able to scrutinize the photos and they were right.

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Dave, the most prominent difference to me is the window trim.  The K-Line is simulated stainless/aluminum while the MTH is black.  I don’t know which (or both) is prototypical, but I like the looks of the bright trim.

John

John,

I have yet to find a picture of an EP-5 that doesn't show the aluminum strip around the front windows. I think the K-Line model is more accurate.

MELGAR

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Sorry Mel,  could be the format. They're old digital camera videos and the file sizes are a bit large.

I was able to view them on Mac Mini using Microsoft Edge browser. Might be browser related as .avi is an older format. You can convert the file to something smaller and more compatible with all browsers, like .MP4. There are some online free converters including one from Adobe using Adobe Express.

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Mooner.  The problem seems to be that the files have a file size of 0. So maybe nothing actually uploaded?

Hmm? All 3 videos showing up for me using both Safari and Microsoft Edge on my computer, but only show up as thumbnail photos when I access on iPhone. No clue, but nice short videos.

First, at my age the electronics and such are very confusing. I have a Motorola Note new phone. It seems to take nice videos but I have no idea how to get them onto the forum. I have some videos I would love to post but have no idea how to do. Are there some simple explanations?  I suppose I should seek the help of someone much younger. Getting old sucks!  Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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The CP also had a line through northern Vermont to Woodsville, NH connecting with the B&M with two pairs of short passenger trains.

I( rode both lines in 1953 returning from summer camp in northern Maine.  First from McAdam Jct. to Sherbrooke in a lower berth behind a royal Hudson.  Next day the Alouette from Newport, VT to St. Johnsbury.

The Alouette was an ideal train for modelers who want a prototypical short train (five cars).with an observation car.  The B&M took it from Woods River, NH to Boston.  Among the cars were a CP RPO-baggage, B&M "American Flyer" car and a CP cafe-parlor-obs.  It would look right with a CP E-8 or a B&M E unit.  I'll try to find my whole train slide and post it.

Thinking of posts from MELGAR, I recall looking out from Burton House and seeing steam rising on the Grand Junction.  We walked over and found a steam powered wrecker lifting a derailed tank car.  I got there in 1955 for the last year of B&M steam.  I believe I have a slide of the 1455 (or maybe the 1453 - looked the same).  I'll try to find hat and post it in the next couple of days

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Thinking of posts from MELGAR, I recall looking out from Burton House and seeing steam rising on the Grand Junction.  We walked over and found a steam powered wrecker lifting a derailed tank car.  I got there in 1955 for the last year of B&M steam.  I believe I have a slide of the 1455 (or maybe the 1453 - looked the same).  I'll try to find hat and post it in the next couple of days

Malcolm Laughlin

Malcolm,

You weren't the only one of us who looked out from the windows in Burton House, but I got there a few years after you and only saw diesels crossing Mass. Avenue... I look forward to seeing your posts in this thread.

MELGAR

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First, at my age the electronics and such are very confusing. I have a Motorola Note new phone. It seems to take nice videos but I have no idea how to get them onto the forum. I have some videos I would love to post but have no idea how to do. Are there some simple explanations?  I suppose I should seek the help of someone much younger. Getting old sucks!  Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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May 21, 2022 - Boston & Maine Railroad 2-8-0 #2403 – Your New England Model Trains

The primary freight locomotives on the Boston and Maine Railroad between 1901 and 1920 were 246 2-8-0 “Consolidation” steam engines in classes K-4 through K-8 built by Alco (Schenectady), Baldwin (Philadelphia) and Brooks (Dunkirk, NY). Some of the K-7 class were used in Boston commuter service, including K-7-c class #2403, which ran on the railroad’s Stoneham branch.

B&M 2-8-0 #2403 had an operating weight of 288,000 pounds (engine and tender with coal and water). The engine weight was 170,000 pounds with 148,000 pounds on its 61-inch-diameter driving wheels. It ran at a boiler pressure of 200 psi and produced 33,443 pounds of tractive effort. It was the last, or one of the last 2-8-0s on the B&M, built by Alco in May 1910 and scrapped in June 1955.

My model of Boston & Maine #2403 was made by Weaver Models. It’s a good-looking die-cast model of a Baldwin 2-8-0 that I run conventionally. The model’s bell, sand and steam domes match the positions on Boston & Maine’s K-8 class “Consolidations” (#2600 to #2689) that were built by Baldwin but differ from B&M #2403, which was built by Alco. The model also lacks the prototypical arched cab side-windows. Track power must be at least 10 Volts for the sounds to play, so the once-per-rev chuffing is heard only when the model is moving rather fast. Nonetheless, I like the way this model looks on my 10’-by-5’ layout and I enjoy running it. The pictures and video show it pulling two recent-issue Lionel wood passenger coaches (Lionel L2227100 Boston & Maine Wood Coach 2-Pack #2).

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@Bill Park posted:

First, at my age the electronics and such are very confusing. I have a Motorola Note new phone. It seems to take nice videos but I have no idea how to get them onto the forum. I have some videos I would love to post but have no idea how to do. Are there some simple explanations?  I suppose I should seek the help of someone much younger. Getting old sucks!  Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Bill- I use a cloud storage service called Dropbox to store and catalog all of my photos and videos.

They have a free subscription which offers limited storage space or you can buy a larger package. Once installed on your computer, you can then also install their app on your phone and any pix or videos you take will automatically sync with your computer. The set up may be a little involved for you so some assistance from a friend or grandchild may be in order.

The Forum has a 100 MB limit for posting videos directly to the site. Anything larger would have to be done through Youtube, etc. Attachments to a post starts with the "add attachments" link at the bottom right in the blue box.

Rich Melvin did a tutorial on posting videos here.

And remember...NO VERTICAL VIDEOS!

Bob

@RSJB18 posted:

Bill- I use a cloud storage service called Dropbox to store and catalog all of my photos and videos.

They have a free subscription which offers limited storage space or you can buy a larger package. Once installed on your computer, you can then also install their app on your phone and any pix or videos you take will automatically sync with your computer. The set up may be a little involved for you so some assistance from a friend or grandchild may be in order.

I also use Dropbox, but there's a better option if you want more storage free with automatic sync of your photos on the phone, MEGA.  Here's one of many positive reviews: Mega Cloud Storage Review.  I also give it high marks.

New Haven Railroad Y-3 USRA 0-8-0 Switcher #3400 – New England Model Trains

New Haven Y-3 #3400 was a USRA 0-8-0 switcher built by Alco (Schenectady) and delivered to the railroad in September 1920. 175 locomotives were built to the USRA 0-8-0 design during World War 1 and 1200 copies followed later. The nominal weight of a standard USRA 0-8-0 was 364,000 pounds (engine and tender). Tractive effort was 51,042 pounds at 175 pounds-per-square-inch boiler pressure with 51-inch driving wheel diameter. Cylinder bore was 25 inches and piston stroke 28 inches. The last New Haven 0-8-0 switcher was retired in 1952.

My model of New Haven #3400 was made by MTH Premier (20-3148-2) with PS2, scale wheels, and offered in the 2005 Volume 1 Catalog at an MSRP of $599.95. The pictures and video show it pulling New Haven Dairy refrigerated milk car GICX300 (by Weaver Models), New Haven steel boxcar #33406 (by MTH) and New Haven NE6 caboose C-681 (by Atlas O). The train speed in the video is 16.5 scale miles-per-hour.

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@coach joe posted:

Mel, NH 3400 is just a beautiful engine, standing still and navigating your layout.  With your "T" rail cross section you probably don't have issues with the scale wheels derailing but that wouldn't be an ideal match for tubular.

Joe,

There was a time when I bought some 3-rail engines with scale wheels. The New Haven #3400 is OK on my Atlas O-54 curves but it does have some problems on the curved path through Atlas O-54 switches. In fact, I've modified the frogs on my two switches so that the engine makes it through. The frog modification is quickly removable but I will be buying only engines with "3-rail wheels" in the future. I still prefer the solid rails of Atlas O track and switches to anything else....

MELGAR

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Thanks, Mel!  I tend to take pictures and videos from the front of the layout because the lighting is better, but i probably should take more from the other side.  Like you, I don’t have a large layout, it’s 13’ long, 6 1/2 ft on one end, 5’ on the other.

The train is all MTH.  The engine is a Premier, the cars Railking.  Here’s another view of the train from the “good side”.

John

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New Haven Railroad DL-109s #0719 and 0722 – New England Model Trains

Ten ALCO DL-109 diesel locomotives (#0700 to 0709) were delivered to the New Haven Railroad between December 1941 and April 1942. They were immediately pressed into freight and passenger service on the shoreline between New Haven and Boston heading freight trains at night and passenger trains during the day, thereby becoming one of the first successful dual-service diesel locomotives. ALCO received special permission from the War Production Board to continue building DL-109s for the New Haven Railroad and, by the end of World War 2, it owned a fleet of sixty. After the war, they were superseded by ALCO FA (freight) and PA (passenger) locomotives. New Haven’s DL-109s ran in local commuter service around Boston until 1959.

Until dieselization was completed in the 1950s, the New Haven’s DL-109 locomotives, and its other diesel types, had numbers prefixed with a zero to indicate that they were “other than steam.”

Each DL-109 had two ALCO 539-T six-cylinder turbocharged 1000 horsepower diesel engines. The New Haven’s locomotives were geared for a maximum speed of eighty miles-per-hour for dual-service use, although on other railroads their maximum speed was 120 mph in passenger service, with a weight of 337,000 pounds and a tractive effort of 56,250 pounds.

My MTH Premier model of New Haven #0719 (20-2325-1 with 5-volt PS2) was offered in their 2001 Volume 3 catalog with MSRP $379.95. It was delivered in December 2001 and has been running on my model railroads for more than twenty years with a BCR.

The consist in the videos includes two highly detailed Railway Post Office cars #3286 and #2782 by Weaver Models, one with a round roof and the other with a clerestory roof.

Also shown is my MTH Premier model of New Haven #0722 – The Cranberry (20-2438-1) offered in the 2003 Volume 3 catalog. The Cranberry was a passenger train that ran between Boston and Hyannis, Massachusetts from 1949 to 1953 with #0722 painted in a bright red and white color scheme.

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Mel  Love your Hunter Green DL 109. I think that is the best looking NH diesel ever.
below are pics of my Cranberry. It was an old new stock PS2 I found on EBay  The two passenger cars are prototypical Osgood Bradley made by Weaver   They were also old new stock. 15 minutes of running them at 18 volts they both blew their capacitors. I re did D8AE7750-3D0F-4E3F-9C8B-2C037338103FA4DBF616-35B1-4935-B598-D44C02CF2D10them with Gunrunner John’s led lighting boards

The bright lighting shows coaches full of vacationers many decked out in Nantucket Red clothing  Too bad NH never painted the coaches to match the Cranberry

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69343B8E-A168-48D3-8066-E53AE47AD4CDMel. Glad you asked when painted. I found out is was painted in 1944 for an ad by American Locomotive Company (AlCO)i I have been wrongly assuming that Hopper was inspired by the Cranberry but since the Cranberry didn’t start service until 1949, I am now thinking the NH was inspired by Hoppers painting from 5 yrs earlier

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Sunset 3rd Rail FL9.  Unfortunately only non powered so I have to MU with an RS3 or in this case double end for photo. I have seen pics of MUd with RS11. I was lucky enough to find old new stock on Public Delivery Track. Last I looked they still had available.

BTW.   CTR you can find the the Cranberry reference by searching Edward Hopper American Locomotive

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@Steam Crazy posted:

Canadian Pacific Alco FA1 no. 4001 and FB1 no. 4403 head up a coal drag in Greenville, ME. No, it isn’t a war zone!  Some troops from the ME National Guard are training on the property of a patriotic farmer.  This actually happened to me when I was a member of the MA National Guard!

John

John, I think you have very nice looking tubular track on your layout. Arnold

The Boston & Albany Railroad used 2-6-6T and 4-6-6T double-ended locomotives in commuter service between South Station in Boston and the city’s western suburbs. Commuter trains ran a circuit - outbound along the railroad’s main line 12.25 miles to Riverside (in Newton, MA) and inbound on its Highland branch. They also ran the circuit in the opposite direction. These double-ended suburban type locomotives operated equally well in both forward and reverse, and therefore it was unnecessary to turn them when they completed a circuit. After the B&A terminated suburban passenger service, the Highland branch was purchased by the Metropolitan Transit Authority in 1958 and the branch was reopened as the MTA Riverside Line with light-rail electric cars in 1959.

The 2-6-6T locomotives were built by ALCO Schenectady in 1906 and ’07. Five 4-6-6Ts (Class D - #400 to #404) were built by ALCO in 1928 and remained in Boston commuter service until 1951. They ran on 63-inch driving wheels, weighed 352,000 pounds and produced 41,600 pounds of tractive force at 215 pounds-per-square-inch boiler pressure. They were designed for rapid acceleration and could pull up to 20 passenger cars.

The O gauge models of the 4-6-6Ts were first produced by K-Line and more recently by Lionel – from the same tooling. My model of D-1a #400 (Lionel SKU 2031010) was offered in 2020 at an MSRP of $1099.99. The photos and videos show it in operation on my 10’-by-5’ model railroad. I believe that the 4-6-6T locomotives hauled steel passenger cars when they began service. In later years they pulled New York Central round-roofed passenger cars. Since I don’t own the correct passenger cars for this engine, I run MTH Premier unlettered wood-sided passenger coaches behind this locomotive.

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@Steam Crazy posted:

Mel, I hereby appoint you as the unofficial Forum historian!  Enjoyed the history lesson, photos and videos!

John

John,

For me, buying books about railroads and their history is a part of model railroading. I like to read about how the railroads contributed to the development of the United States, growth of cities, towns and industries, and also about the technical details of the locomotives, especially steam engines. And, old photographs in the books can be useful in building a model railroad.

Here is a closeup video of the B&A #400 tank engine running at 16 scale miles-per-hour on my 10'-by-5' layout. It's my favorite locomotive model.

MELGAR

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My hometown is Mt. Vernon, NY, and I remember in the late 1950s taking the New Haven passenger train from the downtown Mt. Vernon train station to Grand Central Station with my mother.

I thought the New Haven passenger train was beautiful. I believe the passenger cars looked like shiny, silvery, aluminum extruded cars, and the locomotive was an electric (pantographs running from overhead catenary) with the orange, black and white McGuiness livery.

Does anyone else remember these New Haven passenger trains in the 1950s?

If so, is my above description of them accurate?

If not, how would you describe them?

Arnold

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Boston and Albany 4-6-6T no. 403 backs it’s train into South Station, Boston, MA for an afternoon commuter run to Boston’s Western suburbs.  The tank engine is K-line converted to MTH PS3.  The heavyweight passenger cars are MTH Premier models.

I videoed the train backing because I’ve never seen it done on the Forum.  Let’s see more backing moves!

John

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The G&O operates red, white and blue trains on the 4th of July and other national holidays.  Some of these trains are composed of State of Maine products box cars.  These cars were purchased by the Bangor & Aroostook and New Haven railroads to haul Maine products to market.  I understand that it was mostly potatoes but other products were also hauled.  The cars were insulated but were not reefers with ice.  These cars traveled throughout the nation hauling other products after the Maine growing season.  

Note that some cars are lettered for the Bangor & Aroostook and others for the New Haven.  The dark blue cars are MTH.  The others are K-Line or Lionel.  I don't know which blue is correct.  I wish that the railroads had put the red stripe on the top instead of the blue.  The engine and caboose on this train are K-Line.  Much of this scenery has been upgraded since these photos were taken.  

NH Joe

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Maine Central 2-8-0 #501 was manufactured by Alco (Schenectady) in 1910 and, as best I can determine, is awaiting restoration at the Conway Scenic Railroad in North Conway, New Hampshire. The engine weight was 193,000 pounds and the total locomotive weight was 333,000 pounds. It produced 37,000 pounds of tractive force at a boiler pressure of 185 pounds-per-square-inch and rode on 63-inch-diameter driving wheels.

My diecast model of #501 was made by Weaver Models. It’s a model of a Baldwin locomotive and is similar to the full-size #501 but not entirely accurate. However, it is close and has a great steam whistle, so I enjoy running it. There are 4 chuffs/rev.

The #670 caboose probably came along after #501 was retired and is an anachronism on my train. Is there an O gauge model of a steam era Maine Central caboose? I would buy one.

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My locomotive today is Boston & Albany USRA 0-8-0 #53, a model produced by Lionel (6-28702) in 2006 with TMCC at an MSRP of $649.99. I purchased this model from forum sponsor Trainz and it arrived here this week after nine days in transit. I’ve been wanting to buy a small B&A locomotive model that fits well on my 10’-by-5’ layout but it seems to me that there aren’t many small Boston & Albany locomotive models being made or for sale on the secondary market these days. So, when this appeared on Trainz, I watched it until it became available for general sale and then ordered it. Trainz had rated this model as C7 (excellent) and described some minute scratches and wheel wear that made me somewhat hesitant to buy but, after a day or so, I relented.

I was impressed with how securely Trainz had packed the model. I examined it carefully and found no scratches or wheel wear. Actually, upon close examination, it looked to me like the model had never been run. Certainly, the pickup rollers had never touched a middle rail and I would have rated it at least C8 (like new). I bought a Lionel Mogul from Trainz last year that was rated as C9 (new). In my opinion, both models were fairly and conservatively rated. But neither was low-priced…

The model operated properly when I began to run it. Initially there was some sound dropout so I installed a 9V battery in the tender, but cleaning the rails later eliminated the issue and I don’t think the battery is necessary. I’m satisfied with my purchases from Trainz.

B&A #53 was a U-3b class switcher built by Lima in April 1921.  It had 25-by-28 cylinders, 51-inch driving wheels, weighed 219,000 pounds, and produced 51,040 pounds of tractive effort at 175 pounds-per-square-inch boiler pressure. It was renumbered to New York Central #7725 in 1951 and ran on the Harlem Division until it was retired in January 1955.

This model was made in South Korea and, in my opinion, its design, manufacture and details are excellent. My pictures show that the boiler is fully round on the underside with a prototypical clear space between the boiler and the frame.

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My model of Boston & Maine GP-7 #1563 was made by MTH Premier (20-2211-1). It appeared in the 1999 Volume 3 Catalog at an MSRP of $299.95 and was delivered in December 1999. This was one of the first B&M locomotive models that I purchased – at just about the time I got my 12’-by-8’ layout up and running – and it has been one of my favorites ever since, although it’s not quite as detailed as current MTH GP-7s and GP-9s. I used to run it often but in recent years it’s been run less frequently because I now have newer B&M models.

I hadn’t run #1563, a PS1 model, for at least two years – maybe longer – and its 9-volt NiMH battery was probably ten years old, so I needed to install a BCR before running it again. Aside from removing the shell, extracting the battery required loosening the internal electronic components which are secured by four small screws from the underside of the metal chassis. I prefer not to disturb locomotive electronics but it couldn’t be avoided in this case. With the BCR, the sounds began when approximately 6 volts were applied to the track. It was a little sluggish starting to move, but a slight push and it was off and running. It loosened-up quickly and ran well at low speeds. I find MTH models with PS1 to be very durable and trouble-free.

Boston & Maine #1563 was built in February 1952, one of the second group of GP-7s (#1563 to #1571) purchased by the railroad. It had 1500 horsepower and was set up to run short hood forward. B&M GP-7s did not have dynamic brakes but they did have an extended compartment at the rear of the long hood that housed train lighting equipment for commuter service. The generic MTH B&M GP-7 model incorrectly includes dynamic brake blisters atop the long hood but doesn’t have the extended electrical compartment. B&M #1563 also had a steam generator within the short hood for train heating. This is represented on the MTH model by the steam generator stack atop the short hood.

As Budd RDC Railcars replaced diesel locomotives in commuter service on the B&M, MU equipment was added to #1563 and it was transferred to freight service. So, this model of a medium-sized diesel locomotive is a good fit for passenger or freight trains on my 10’-by-5’ single-track New England branch line model railroad.

General Motors Electro-Motive Division produced 2,729 GP-7s between October 1949 and May 1954. They were powered by an EMD 567B V16 2-stroke diesel engine that ran between 275 and 800 RPM. Their weight was 246,000 pounds and maximum speed was 65 miles-per-hour. Continuous tractive effort was 40,000 pounds at 9.3 miles-per-hour and 65,000 pounds for starting. The B&M had 23 GP-7s.

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@Wvm posted:

What a difference a layout makes   All your locos look great and are lucky to have such a great road on which to spin their wheels

Wvm,

Thank you. Whether you have a layout or not, I would like to see any New Haven or other New England model locomotives or rolling stock that you have. My newer layout is 10'-by-5' and just an O-54 oval. I guess that is considered small but, for me, it's big enough to be interesting, and construction of the structures and scenery were a five-year project.

MELGAR

Hi All—

it’s been a while since I posted here, so thanks MELGAR, Dave for your recent posts.  Here are two recent custom car projects:

The first photo is a P&W “super gon” built for hauling large pieces of scrap.  My car is a 79’s Atlas gon (Reading) with the extension kit offered by K-Line.  Some assembly required….

Paint is Rustoleum rattle can flat black, ends are light grey followed by Testors yellow.  The interior is Scalecoat II.  Now I need to do some weathering.  

The second photo is the prototype for the

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Here we have a re-do of a K-Line intermodal car lettered for a Massachusetts short line.  It too, need weathering, but sometimes life gets in the way😉

My friend Bruce and I have been engaged in a pandemic intermodal project centered in New England.  I’m moving my waybill driven New Haven railroad into the late 60’s-early 70’s +…  I’ll soon be selling my NHRR & B&A steam in the transition as I repaint rolling stock.  My layout is 32’ x 55, and is one of a half dozen in our 14-person prototype operations group.  

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On Friday my wife and I traveled to Meriden, Connecticut  from the Albany, NY area. We allowed time to visit the New England Railroad Museum in Thomaston, Connecticut. The museum in situated on what was part of the New Haven Railroad. I posted some pictures of the New Haven equipment earlier on the thread "Any New Haven Fans". There were some other equipment from the Boston and Maine that I am posting here along with a picture of the depot. No one could tell me the original owner of the jeep 9 that pulled the train. As a very nice touch for the kids riding, ice cream was handed out to all. The museum people were very cordial and accommodating for everyone.  Thomaston was known as the clock city of the world.   Billnrr10nnh2nnh3nnh4nrr1nrr12nrr13nrr14nrr10

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My model of Boston & Maine F-3 #4227A was made by Sunset/3rd Rail and delivered in 2021 at an MSRP of $699.95. Unlike most 3-rail F-3 models, this one has a fixed pilot. It is shown on my 10'-by-5' model railroad with Atlas O-54 curves and switches.

The B&M purchased two F-3 A-B locomotive sets in 1948, #4227 and #4228, for passenger service.  Each individual unit had an EMD 567 two-cycle, supercharged V16 diesel engine that developed 1,500 horsepower. The #4227 ran between Boston, Springfield (MA) and White River Junction, Vermont. It was retired in 1966.

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@Bill Park posted:

On Friday my wife and I traveled to Meriden, Connecticut  from the Albany, NY area. We allowed time to visit the New England Railroad Museum in Thomaston, Connecticut. The museum in situated on what was part of the New Haven Railroad. I posted some pictures of the New Haven equipment earlier on the thread "Any New Haven Fans". There were some other equipment from the Boston and Maine that I am posting here along with a picture of the depot. No one could tell me the original owner of the jeep 9 that pulled the train. As a very nice touch for the kids riding, ice cream was handed out to all. The museum people were very cordial and accommodating for everyone.  Thomaston was known as the clock city of the world.   Billnrr10

Bill- I found their roster. It lists the GP 9 but in a different livery and number. Not sure if it's the same loco.

https://www.thedieselshop.us/RMNE.HTML

Further searches found this. Most likely this is the engine in your photo. Looks like it's an ex N&W.

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Bob

@Bill Park posted:

On Friday my wife and I traveled to Meriden, Connecticut  from the Albany, NY area. We allowed time to visit the New England Railroad Museum in Thomaston, Connecticut. The museum in situated on what was part of the New Haven Railroad. I posted some pictures of the New Haven equipment earlier on the thread "Any New Haven Fans". There were some other equipment from the Boston and Maine that I am posting here along with a picture of the depot. No one could tell me the original owner of the jeep 9 that pulled the train. As a very nice touch for the kids riding, ice cream was handed out to all. The museum people were very cordial and accommodating for everyone.  Thomaston was known as the clock city of the world.   Billnrr10

Hi Bill,

The GP9 is an ex-Norfolk & Western unit - the paint scheme it is in currently is a tribute to one of its N&W paint schemes. The Naugatuck actually has two ex-N&W GP9s - IIRC they were purchased to be used for the railroads freight business, to keep wear off the historic equipment (the engines officially part of the RMNE's collection).

~Chris

I’m most interested in railroads that ran in the New England states, including the New Haven and the Boston & Maine railroads – two of the largest in the six-state region. The New Haven was dominant in Connecticut, Rhode Island and southern Massachusetts while the Boston & Maine dominated in northern Massachusetts, New Hampshire, southern Maine and also operated in parts of Vermont. As such, most of my model trains represent these railroads and I often run two or three New England trains simultaneously on my 12’-by-8’ model railroad.

In the video, New Haven Railroad class G-4-a 4-6-0 steam locomotive #816 (Lionel Legacy 6-82272) is pulling a passenger train trailed by 1929 heavyweight parlor-lounge car Flying Cloud (MTH set 20-4040) on the O-72 outer loop and Boston & Maine F-3 diesel #4227A (Sunset/3rd Rail) is pulling a freight train with B&M caboose C-124 (MTH 20-91064) on the O-54 middle loop. However, in the real world, these locomotives ran during different eras. The last New Haven G-4-a was retired in 1948, the same year when B&M #4227A was built. The two locomotives pass each other on the truss bridge at the front of the layout with the New Haven train running at about 32 scale miles-per-hour.

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Mel, at the present time my memory is not as sharp as I wish it was.  I remember that you constructed at least one truss bridge from scratch but can't remember if it was one or both of the bridges on the 12x8, one on the 10x5 or all truss bridges on both layouts.  So please refresh my memory, which is it?

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Mel, at the present time my memory is not as sharp as I wish it was.  I remember that you constructed at least one truss bridge from scratch but can't remember if it was one or both of the bridges on the 12x8, one on the 10x5 or all truss bridges on both layouts.  So please refresh my memory, which is it?

Joe,

Thanks for the question. As a retired engineer, I'm very interested in bridges, both full size and scale model, and I enjoy building models of them, although I haven't had any under construction lately.

I designed the 24-inch (96-foot) truss bridge and trestle on the 10'-by-5' layout and built both from scratch using basswood around 2014 (first photo). I also designed the three industrial buildings in the photo and built them from scratch.

I built the two 36-inch (144-foot) truss bridges and girder bridge on the 12'-by-8' layout from spruce wood kits by Miami Valley Products around 2000 (second photo). The double-track truss bridge at the front of the 12'-by-8' layout often carries two die-cast steam locomotives. The gusset plates on the truss bridges make them quite strong.

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Mel.  Enjoyed seeing your woodside reefer “first national stores “ in latest video. I also purchased one lately because my dad worked as a warehouse clerk there before going off to WWII as a Medic. That’s what I love about the old biilboards They bring back so much history. I found at Public Delivery Track. They have a huge selection

@Wvm posted:

Mel.  Enjoyed seeing your woodside reefer “first national stores “ in latest video. I also purchased one lately because my dad worked as a warehouse clerk there before going off to WWII as a Medic. That’s what I love about the old biilboards They bring back so much history. I found at Public Delivery Track. They have a huge selection

Wvm,

Thanks for your comment.

Model railroading does evoke a lot of history and recollections of youth and family members. As you say, many of the locomotives and railroad cars are from eras long past. Learning about the history and remembering it are good things.

MELGAR

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@jim sutter posted:

I wish some New England train dealer would do, custom runs of ...... PS-2 covered hoppers.

Jim,

I would like to see MTH custom runs of New England steam and diesel locomotives. And how about the beautiful New Haven electric locomotives? It seems to me that there are very few MTH dealers in New England these days.

MELGAR

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These days, I limit my purchases to models of locomotives that operated in the New England states – especially the New Haven, Boston & Maine, New York Central (Boston & Albany), Rutland, and Maine Central Railroads.

I recently bought an MTH Railking model of New York Central ALCo RS-3 #8344 (30-20816-1). I chose this model because locomotives with its “lightning stripe” livery and similar road numbers ran on NYC’s Boston & Albany subsidiary and around New York City – two places where I’ve spent more than a few years. MTH delivered this model in November 2021 at an MSRP of $359.95.

You may ask why I include the New York Central among New England railroads. The Boston & Albany was an independent railroad from its formation in 1867 until it was leased by the New York Central in 1900. But the people of Massachusetts were offended to see “New York” on trains passing through their towns so, around 1912, the New York Central reinstated “Boston & Albany” lettering on the B&A’s locomotives. This practice prevailed until 1951, by which time the B&A had been absorbed into the New York Central. The only diesels that ever received Boston & Albany markings were eleven ALCo HH600 high-hood switchers in 1938-39. They became New York Central #800-810 in 1951 and, thereafter, all diesels operating on the B&A, including the RS-3s, were painted in NYC liveries. The RS-3s operated on the B&A main line and in commuter service around Boston.

The video shows my model of New York Central #8344 in its test run at 9 scale miles-per-hour on my 10’-by-5’ layout.

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My model of Boston & Maine ALCo RS-3 #1537 was made by Weaver. I’ve owned it for more than fifteen years. About two years ago, I repaired a short circuit in the wiring and then realized that the prime mover sounds were inoperative. I haven’t replaced the sound electronics and now I run it without sounds. Instead, I listen to the clickety-clack of the wheels on the rails. I haven’t heard these track sounds for years because all my locomotive models have electronic sounds that drown out the track sounds. With this locomotive, I’m content to run without the electronic sounds.

The Boston & Maine Railroad bought 11 RS-3s in 1952 (road numbers 1535 to 1545) and 15 in 1954/1955 (road numbers 1505 to 1519). The Weaver model of #1537 has a crosswise turbocharger exhaust stack on its long hood behind the radiator cooling fan indicating that the turbocharger was water cooled. On RS-3s with air cooled turbochargers, the stack was mounted lengthwise on the hood. On the B&M, RS-3s were permitted a maximum speed of 65 miles-per-hour. #1537 was retired in 1966.

RS-3s had a 1,600 horsepower V12 244 diesel engine, weighed 247,100 pounds and developed 61,775 pounds of starting tractive effort.

The videos show B&M #1537 running at 23 scale miles-per-hour on my 10’-by-5’ layout.

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Want to be sure everyone knows that Sunset Third Rail is taking reservations for a new run of RDC s. I see that they will be available in NH ,  B&M , and New York Central among others. Mel has posted pics of his beautiful NHs in the past.  I am thrilled at possibility of this happening. Join me in making the required build number. They say they are getting close

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Want to be sure everyone knows that Sunset Third Rail is taking reservations for a new run of RDC s. I see that they will be available in NH ,  B&M , and New York Central among others. Mel has posted pics of his beautiful NHs in the past.  I am thrilled at possibility of this happening. Join me in making the required build number. They say they are getting close

Photos show my Sunset/3rd Rail models of New Haven Rail Diesel Cars. New Haven #21 is an RDC-1. New Haven #121 is an RDC-2.

The New Haven acquired 40 RDCs between 1952 and 1953 and referred to them as “Shoreliners.”

Budd built 398 Rail Diesel Cars between 1949 and 1962. The RDC-1 carried 90 passengers and had an empty weight of 108,300 pounds. The RDC-2 carried 70 with a baggage section and had an empty weight of 114,200 pounds. They were powered by two 6-cylinder Detroit Diesel Series 110 engines of 275 horsepower each and had a maximum speed of 85 miles-per-hour.

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I’ve been running two New Haven Railroad diesels on my 12’-by-8’ model railroad this week.

New Haven ALCo DL-109 #0719 is an MTH Premier model with 5-volt PS2 and a BCR (20-2325-1, MSRP $379.95) that was advertised in the 2001 catalog. Real DL-109s like #0719 went into service in 1941 hauling passenger trains between New Haven and Boston during the day and freight at night, thereby becoming the first successful type of dual-service diesel locomotive. In the video, #0719 is running on a middle loop of Atlas O track with O-54 curves and pulling MTH 18-inch heavyweight passenger cars similar to those in service on the New Haven during the 1920s, including parlor car “Flying Cloud,” which ran on the “Yankee Clipper” between New York and Boston beginning in 1930.

New Haven ALCo PA #0771 is a Sunset/3rd Rail model delivered in 2018 (MSRP $699.95). PA locomotives began hauling passenger trains on the New Haven in 1948. In the video, #0771 is running on the outer loop of Atlas O track with O-72 curves and pulling 21-inch “American Flyer” lightweight passenger cars by Weaver Models whose prototypes went into service on the New Haven in 1937.

New Haven passenger trains on the “Shoreline” often included Railway Post Office cars to carry the large volume of mail between New York City and Boston. RPO #3286 is at the head end of #0719’s train and RPO #2782 is behind #0771. Both RPOs were made by Weaver Models.  

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Finished up my first airbrushed engine. Also first engine I added some extra details to. Switched out the crew members, added some plastic rods inside the cab. To give the look of the values and gauges. Painted the boiler in the cab as well as the walls green. Can’t really tell unless you get really close. Topped it off with a string for the bell rope, at least the holes are already there. Also cut the tender up and made it lower just to give it another look. B54009C6-818C-45ED-B207-66F95D9D4B5C513C32D5-8A42-49F6-A222-0C2475FC11FA63E3EC50-8028-4813-B49A-ADA4C58FD1059BE67740-F4D6-490D-9308-07741938574C8DB4FC64-3F12-4891-ACA9-4E87275EE334

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Finished up my first airbrushed engine. Also first engine I added some extra details to. Switched out the crew members, added some plastic rods inside the cab. To give the look of the values and gauges. Painted the boiler in the cab as well as the walls green. Can’t really tell unless you get really close. Topped it off with a string for the bell rope, at least the holes are already there. Also cut the tender up and made it lower just to give it another look. B54009C6-818C-45ED-B207-66F95D9D4B5C

Great job on the weathering and detailing Nate!

Bob

I’ve been running two Lionel models of Ten-Wheeler steam locomotives on my 12’-by-8’ layout this week – New Haven #816 and Boston & Maine #2074. These models look well and run well but, in true Lionel fashion, their prototype is a New York Central Class F-12 4-6-0 locomotive built by ALCo. I also have a third version in the correct NYC livery.

Ten-Wheelers hauled mainline passenger trains in the early 1900s but were superseded in a few years by more powerful 4-6-2 Pacific types as heavier steel construction replaced wood for passenger cars.

New Haven Class G-4 #816 was built by Baldwin and went into passenger service in 1904. On my layout, it is pulling heavyweight steel passenger cars.

Boston & Maine Class C-19 #2074 was built by Baldwin in 1898 and scrapped in 1939. It is known to have run in commuter service around Boston into the 1930s. On my layout, it is pulling two wood-sided passenger cars that are recent models made by Lionel with tooling acquired from MTH. The Boston & Maine Railroad used wood-sided cars in Boston commuter service into the 1950s.

MELGAR

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@Wvm,

Nice video and your New Haven #2325 is a good-looking model. I hadn't seen one like that before.

The definitive reference I use for Boston & Maine steam locomotives is "Minuteman Steam" by Harry A. Frye (1982) - a difficult book to find nowadays. It shows that several B&M Atlantics lasted into 1947 and the last one until 1949. It also has a picture of B&M 4-4-2 #3242 pulling wood-sided commuter coaches (like your models) dated August 1947. But it doesn't list or show any Atlantics into the 1950s. Lionel recently offered a model of B&M Atlantic #3243 that is still available new from Forum Sponsor Charles Ro. #3243 was scrapped in 1941.

B&M 2-8-0 Consolidations did remain in service into the 1950s. In particular, B&M #2403 was the last one on the railroad and remained in commuter service into the 1950s. It was scrapped in 1955 and would be a good match for your wood-sided passenger cars. Weaver made a model of #2403 (see photo).

B&M 2-6-0 Moguls also ran into the 1950s and typically pulled wood-sided passenger coaches like your models. The B&M sold its last Mogul in 1956. Lionel has made accurate models of B&M 2-6-0s in versions with TMCC and Legacy.

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Finished up my first airbrushed engine. Also first engine I added some extra details to. Switched out the crew members, added some plastic rods inside the cab. To give the look of the values and gauges. Painted the boiler in the cab as well as the walls green. Can’t really tell unless you get really close. Topped it off with a string for the bell rope, at least the holes are already there. Also cut the tender up and made it lower just to give it another look. B54009C6-818C-45ED-B207-66F95D9D4B5C513C32D5-8A42-49F6-A222-0C2475FC11FA63E3EC50-8028-4813-B49A-ADA4C58FD1059BE67740-F4D6-490D-9308-07741938574C8DB4FC64-3F12-4891-ACA9-4E87275EE334

That's a great looking locomotive !

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Just got this last weekend, haven’t even had time to run it yet. Wasn’t planning on picking this up when it was released in the catalog. Come to find out the wife had family who worked for the N.H. So it’s family history, at least that’s how I justified the purchase to her.

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@Steam Crazy thank you, I owe it all to over a decade of painting tabletop miniatures. Learned so much over the years, so I had a good starting point for airbrushing I believe. Regardless I was extremely nervous doing it.

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