I have started the planning for my new layout. My current layout is in my parents' house. We tried to sell the house and needed to tear the layout down in my basement. That effort failed. It probably worked out though, because we had a small flood when we lost power. My sump pump runs all the time and during big storms, there is way too much water for a battery backup. I have two sump pits that are connected with separate pumps, so if I don't lose power, I should be good. So, the first step is to install an NG powered generator this Spring. I'm planning to insulate the walls with a paper foil-faced rigid foam that is paintable and meets fire code. I do not plan to put up drywall or a ceiling due to cost, mess, time and low ceiling height. More too come ...

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George, good news.  That's always exciting.  I'm confused by your description though.  Is the new layout going to be at your house or your parent's?  And how is it that tearing down the old layout failed?  And that was the one at your parent's house?  I guess it doesn't matter really but I read that a few times and remain confused.

MikeH

I have a lot of plywood and wood ladder that I use for legs. The layout deck can be put together in a number of geometries. I’ll have at least two levels. I want this to be a multi-scale tinplate layout with standard gauge, O and O27. I would like the standard gauge to be on the outside, but am running into issues fitting my O gauge turntable and yard into this arrangement, because they need to be outside the standard gauge loops. I’m trying to avoid grades for the older tinplate but that is one option. I wish there was an O / Standard gauge crossing. I’m also trying to avoid simple loops to add interest. I have used reversing loops in the past. 

George

beachhead2 posted:

George, good news.  That's always exciting.  I'm confused by your description though.  Is the new layout going to be at your house or your parent's?  And how is it that tearing down the old layout failed?  And that was the one at your parent's house?  I guess it doesn't matter really but I read that a few times and remain confused.

Ahhh, sorry. Pronouns are a curse on language and meaning! 

The new layout will be at my house in my basement. What failed was the sale of our house. The real estate taxes and school district have killed its value. The old layout was taken down and moved to my parents in preparation for putting my house up for sale.

I will be moving the layout back from my parents, but it will be reconfigured in the process.

George

Steamer posted:

I know they make 5 rail track for Standard/O, I would think there might be a crossover? Maybe Steve Eastman would know.

There are plans available to build 5 rail switches, but not for crossovers that I am aware of.

Steve

 

Steve "Papa" Eastman

Yorba Linda, CA

Left Coast, Home of the lunatics

I did a search and found this thread: https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/...like-brands-of-track

Looks like ACE made a custom O gauge crossover. It would be easy to modify this for O and Standard gauge. I don't have a radial arm saw, so I'll need to be creative on how to mill the junction. It looks like it would work well and solve my problem. My other minor problem is that two loops of O and two loops of Standard is a lot of track and may constrain my space for accessories. I'll update this thread as I make progress. It might be a while given the time involved in prepping the space.

George

BlueComet400 posted:

Hey George, this is great--you have a blank canvas. Looking forward to seeing the progress. Are you going to York?

 

John

Hi John, Thanks! I’m not sure yet on York. It’s a little far off for me still considering I hardly know where I am traveling the next two weeks.

Will definitely look you up if I do. I’d like to get there Wednesday to see a bandit meet and “rush the door” to the Blue Hall on Thursday.

George

It looks relatively easy to make the Standard / O gauge combo crossover. I found a Dremel router table for about $30 and need a 1/8 inch bit. I hope the table fits my battery powered Dremel. Now, I just need to find 11/16 inch plastic stock. I have some 1/2 inch Corion from a kitchen demolition that would work but might be too thin. I need to route a depth of 3/8 inch for the rail height. I could also get 3/4 inch stock and sand it down a 1/16 inch.

George

Here is my first attempt at the STD / O crossover.

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The router cutting method is not working too well. I think the Dremel is not sturdy enough for the Corian. I ended up chipping a corner with it too. Also, the grooves need to be just a little wider. Lastly, I did not realize that the O gauge rail height is lower than Standard gauge. I'm going to need to shim the O gauge tracks. Plastic might be a little easier to work with than Corian, but I don't have any thick enough.

I'll keep working on it. I will actually need two of these on my layout.

George

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Ok, it took me until now to get this far. The space is clear and the generator is in to keep the basement dry in a power outage. Here are pics of the space from each side.

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I’m thinking about painting the ceiling. It’s a little too short to finish with tile or drywall. I also need to add more lighting. The space is roughly 39’ x 20’.

George

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Looks like a nice space for a layout.  

Use LED lighting for the room.  Econolight.com is a good place to order from.  They are in Sturtevant and my orders are always delivered next day.  Look for their deals when ordering, generally 10% to 15% off, with code.

I went with the panels that drop into my ceiling grid, but they sell several different styles.

NWL

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