Maybe this has been covered but I couldn't find anything. I want all my LC+ locomotives and my rolling stock to be scale, matching the Lionel PS-1 boxcars in size. I have found that the GP7 and the NW2 look scale while the RS3 and the steam engines seem to look more traditional. The new GP20 is listed as "scale", and the new GP38 is listed as "traditional. However I saw the two sitting next to each other at a show and the GP38 looked bigger than the GP20. I expected it to be the other way around. Does anyone have any words of wisdom? Thanks in advance.

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The prototype GP38 is 3' longer and about 1' taller than the GP20.  Bear in mind that what Lionel calls a GP20 is in reality the Lionel  GP7 body with a low nose.

However, the LC+ GP38 is designed to fit on the LC+ GP7/9/20 frame and the GP38 proportions have been adjusted to fit.

Rusty

Thanks to both of you. You have been very helpful! I like Lionel and especially the Lionchief Plus. I just get confused sometimes by the "scale" and "non-scale". Thanks!

You have to check if it is not specifically listed as a "scale" piece. I don't believe all LC+ are 'scale' . One can usually find dimensions on engines and cars on the 'net and then convert them. There will still be variances, but not great. It happens that the LC+ RS3 is very close.

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