The orange chip wasn’t mentioned in the manual either, I programmed the loco into my Legacy without it, just wondering if they stopped including them with new locos?
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Yes, new normal. They stopped putting the modules in for all the 2017 locos.
Thanks!
For what its worth, there will be no more orange modules with ordinary Legacy engines. However, they will be included in the VisionLine engines until they actually run out of the modules they have on hand. This was shared information from the Lionel Booth back in April.....Now, that's the update...
Okay, that is a HUGE disappointment! If they are gonna charge me $600 for a diesel, then they better include a little orange chip that is the standard set by them with the Legacy system! For the love of God Lionel, too many steps in the wrong direction, in fact you are so far off track it won't be long before you have to add the motor yourself!
Just another cost cutting move to stay profitable.
Original version...
Yes new normal. It's no big deal. It takes less than 30 seconds to enter the info manually or less than 2 seconds with a sensor track. The Orange module became redundant.
Less grumpy version... Yes Craig it is the new normal for Legacy engines. Lionel has expressed that the Orange module is quite redundant and is gently suggesting that the sensor track or manually entering the information can be equally effective in getting the information into your Cab2. If you or any other member should require assistance in doing so please reach out to me or one of the other helpful forum members willing to help.
(Edited for less "grumpiness "). LOL. While my original post was IMO not grumpy, just to the point, I have issued a more mellow and less to the point version. Please put some mellow music and read along.
Also, this topic has been debated repeatedly, with a response from Lionel reps, too, in other threads, if you want to read more about it.
Craig if you have a Legacy Fastrak Piece if you roll the engine over it the info is automatically loaded in.
Maxrailroad posted:Okay, that is a HUGE disappointment! If they are gonna charge me $600 for a diesel, then they better include a little orange chip that is the standard set by them with the Legacy system! For the love of God Lionel, too many steps in the wrong direction, in fact you are so far off track it won't be long before you have to add the motor yourself!
what is the big deal?
the chip did not really do anything that a few key strokes can not do.
you can also use a old chip and then change the name with a few less strokes.
if us old non computer people can type here, inputting the info on the legacy handheld is not much different. imo
Here’s the deal, buy this upcoming VisionLine Niagara Steamer, there will be an Orange Module for your Convenience..Enjoy, they will be included with VisionLine engines until there (Lionels) stock of modules is depleted....Now, enjoy your new engine. Happy Railroading.
Maxrailroad posted:Okay, that is a HUGE disappointment! If they are gonna charge me $600 for a diesel, then they better include a little orange chip that is the standard set by them with the Legacy system! For the love of God Lionel, too many steps in the wrong direction, in fact you are so far off track it won't be long before you have to add the motor yourself!
Ever think the module's processor was obsoleted by it's manufacturer and there either is no replacement, a replacement is difficult to obtain or is expensive enough not to continue with? Or a replacement processor requires too much re-engineering to make it work properly?
Such things happen in the electronics world.
Rusty
There is no processor in the orange module just memory chips. It is similar to a USB memory stick. You can buy black ones and make your own or just enter the info I manually and get on with life. I have lots of TMCC locos in my legacy base that require manual entry. Not a huge deal.
The orange module has gone to the same place as engine-specific crew talk, smoke fluid packed with locos, and even those cute wire handrails on the Polar Express that are now molded on. A dollar saved is a dollar gained for Howard Hitchcock. But, as long as it's in an orange and blue box, keep buying 
If you think the lack of the orange module is bad, it was stated in the Legacy User's Group on Friday Morning that when they run out of black modules, there will be no more writable modules! Makes you wonder how we'll program upgrades to the base and remote!
When that happens, just remember this post, it may come in handy. 
Free Black Modules for Legacy
Link to preferred module modification method: Updated Blue Module Conversion Technique
I wouldn't panic just yet.
I'm not panicked Marty, I have it covered.
Maxrailroad posted:Okay, that is a HUGE disappointment! If they are gonna charge me $600 for a diesel, then they better include a little orange chip that is the standard set by them with the Legacy system! For the love of God Lionel, too many steps in the wrong direction, in fact you are so far off track it won't be long before you have to add the motor yourself!
Max,
You are way too you to be a grouchy old man. There are too many of us already on the forum. Also if you are paying list for a Lionel diesel ask your mother to teach you how to shop.
JohnB
