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For those looking for images of this engine, I received mine today and Lionel did an amazing job on the paint scheme. It also has 5 horns / whistles and everything else they are putting in their new diesels. Kudos to Lionel on a job well done and thank you to METCA for running this custom scheme. Yes, I will be doing a full review on this engine very soon.

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I'm confused, whats a GP7 and a GP9?

Surely you can't be serious!  The term "GP7" indicates the EMD diesel electric General Purpose mode in series 7 (1500 HP). The term "GP9" indicates the next generation General Purpose EMD model in the series 9 (1750 HP).  

And what does METCA mean?

I have no idea about that!

Maybe someone needs to come up with a comprehensive list of acronyms and abbreviations so we all know what the others are talking about, I'm just saying.

Again, if you don't know the difference between various diesel locomotive models, I'm afraid you require a LOT more than a simple list of "acronyms and abbreviations"!



Jerry

PS

Cool looking engine!

Yes, for fantasy scheme!

I guess I am in the same boat as Baltimoretrainworks is in. I don't know the difference between a GP 7 or a GP9 or a SD70M or an SD70ace. Yet, I have SD "something " locomotives and ES  locomotives and a ton of GP 7/9 locomotives and I am having way too much fun running them on my layout. Maybe I'm breaking the rules...😉

Anyway, I don't think I care if this locomotive is a "fantasy" or a nonprototypical paint scheme. It is a really, really nice looking locomotive and since it is a Lionel Legacy I know it's owner is having lots of fun running it. I know I would if I ever  got my hands it. 😁

I really like it!!!!

@Hot Water posted:

Because it is a GP9. Note the vertical handrail stanchions are made of "U Channel steel", while GP7 units had solid round bar-stock vertical stanchions.

Jack at best, I think we can call it a hybrid.  It has the 3 GP7 style grilles under the cab and one under the walkway on the short hood.  Handrails are definitely GP9, however a few late spec GP7s ended up with the channel stanchions.  Problem with that hypothesis is that the long hood grilles also shared the same design as the first spec GP9s and on this model and those are definitely factory GP7 grilles on the long hood. 

For a fantasy scheme, it is nice looking GP7.9.

METCA - Metropolitan Train Collectors Association for anyone interested.  As usual a home run in the cool looking fantasy scheme department.  Nice job Stu and crew.

@Hot Water posted:
 

Surely you can't be serious!  The term "GP7" indicates the EMD diesel electric General Purpose mode in series 7 (1500 HP). The term "GP9" indicates the next generation General Purpose EMD model in the series 9 (1750 HP).

Again, if you don't know the difference between various diesel locomotive models, I'm afraid you require a LOT more than a simple list of "acronyms and abbreviations"!

Sorry for being facetious, it was a tongue in cheek post in reference to another post about how we need a list of acronyms and abbreviations on the forum for those who don't know what they mean. Things like ZW, JLC, GG1, TCA et al were tossed around not just obscure technical terms and a list was actually being compiled because apparently there is a great hew and cry for such a reference guide, which currently looks like the greater New York metropolitan area phone book. While I don't know all the minute differences of the various locomotives I do know GP7, GP9, SD45, PA, FA and the others that are commonly discussed here. While this may not have been the best place for such a prank I was waiting for an opportunity to ask such questions regarding abbreviations used in a post and this one just called to me. Alho I did not know exactly what METCA stood for I appreciate NOT LionelLLC for chiming in but he did help prove my point which was , "Just ask"



Jerry

I'm confused, whats a GP7 and a GP9?  And what does METCA mean?

Maybe someone needs to come up with a comprehensive list of acronyms and abbreviations so we all know what the others are talking about, I'm just saying.



Jerry

PS

Cool looking engine!

Every once in a while I come across a post that causes me to laugh my a * * off.  Luckily I was sitting down when I read your post and did not lose my a**.   It was truly a stroke of brilliance and timing.   I salute you and thank you for a great point of humor.

For those asking who/what METCA is, it's shorthand for the Metropolitan Division of the Train Collectors Association.  That's the group that offered this custom run.  METCA does lots of custom runs.

You can see METCA's current custom runs here.

You can see METCA's past (sold out) custom runs on this page.

Stu

METCA does a lot of great runs, I was asleep at the wheel for the Susquehanna C420!!! I am still looking if one shows up.

@Rich Melvin posted:

As a point of continuing education, the are no dashes in EMD diesel model numbers. The locomotive is an GP7, not a GP-7.

The only place where EMD used dashes was in the “Dash 2” series, as in SD40-2, GP38-2, etc.

I edited your post to fix this.

Well, if we are going with extreme technicalities, EMD did not only use dashes for the "Dash 2" series, CSX has several Dash 3 locomotives such as the SD40-3 and SD50-3.

@RJ I posted:

Well, if we are going with extreme technicalities, EMD did not only use dashes for the "Dash 2" series, CSX has several Dash 3 locomotives such as the SD40-3 and SD50-3.

This is not a matter of "...extreme technicalities..."  It's a matter of getting an EMD model number RIGHT or WRONG. It's like the difference between driving a Chevy Impala or an Impoola. One is right, the other is wrong. It's really that simple.

And for the record, EMD never produced a "Dash 3" locomotive series. As Hot Water pointed out, the "Dash 3" locomotives were re-manufactured and upgraded models done in the field, not at the factory.

GG1 4877: Indeed, it must be a late model GP7.

Rich, right again!  GP7, GP9, SD7, SD9, etc., and the Dash 2 series is a geep of another color and no way will I ever pay so much as $1 for any What If locomotive, however, to quote the onetime Model Railroader slogan: "Model Railroading is Fun!"  Model railroading remains a hobby where Democracy and Freedom still rings!

Do it YOUR way and have FUN FUN FUN just like a runaway loose caboose on a down hill run.

Joe

As for extreme technicalities please remember that we don't drive anything.  We operate it.

Just like Kleenex is only a tissue and should be referred to as such.  You should never call your refrigerator an icebox.   And so on.   Just to be correct.   Even though everyone probably understands what you are talking about in those technical errors mentioned above.

Lord help us if we install grammar police here on the forum.

Hey BNSF-Matt (hyphen okay?), back to the original subject, it is a great looking engine.  And your pictures look great also regardless of the lens or camera orientation you used.

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