New Lionel S2 Loco

Got my S2 electric today from trainworld. Perfect out of the box. Glass smooth, runs great. Always loved this engine after first seeing the TMCC version as a kid and was excited to see it in the catalog. 

Great job Lionel!

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D500 posted:

"first seeing the TMCC version as a kid"

"...as a kid"? Really? Gee, it wasn't that long ago, was it? Seems I bought mine new just a while back... 

Well....maybe I was a teenager then but either way, I was broke and couldn't have one. Making up for it now!

I have one and it is a big time keeper.  The guys at Lionel did a fantastic job.

 

 

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It’s a gem of an engine.  The sound, though nice and rich sounding, is on the quieter side when compared to other larger stream engines I own—maybe it fits the size of the engine well. I did have a few kinks with this engine after I first got it but those have been worked out. The  external detail texture is excellent. Overall, it’s a beauty. 

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It’s a gem of an engine.  The sound, though nice and rich sounding, is on the quieter side when compared to other larger stream engines I own—maybe it fits the size of the engine well. I did have a few kinks with this engine after I first got it but those have been worked out. The  external detail texture is excellent. Overall, it’s a beauty. 

For what it's worth, the volume knob on mine was only turned about half way up from the factory. 

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WhatShouldIBuyNext posted:

It’s a gem of an engine.  The sound, though nice and rich sounding, is on the quieter side when compared to other larger stream engines I own—maybe it fits the size of the engine well. I did have a few kinks with this engine after I first got it but those have been worked out. The  external detail texture is excellent. Overall, it’s a beauty. 

For what it's worth, the volume knob on mine was only turned about half way up from the factory. 

Yes, I forgot to try turning it up...how absent-minded of me. 

Ok, just curious, how much did Lionel save by eliminating the orange module, now eliminating the Odyssey switch.  Also, see the earlier 2003 Model, has RS switch, Odyssey switch, and run/program switch. Thank you whatshouldibuynext for the picture of the new S2.....5932AD8F-E4CC-498D-BBD0-CEF3E947E14B

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Ok, just curious, how much did Lionel save by eliminating the orange module, now eliminating the Odyssey switch.  ....

Very good question, Larry.  And it also leaves us wondering WHO is making these decisions:  Lionel Stateside or their Chinese Factory.    The orange module thing is purely a bean-counter move with no really significant impact to buyers.  But the elimination of the Odyssey switch (also a bean-counter move) already has a significant ramification that we know about from a user who has reported the new Legacy locomotives w/o the Odyssey switch cannot be used on "automated" layouts with relay control.  Admittedly, that's not a huge segment of the population.  But nonetheless, it shows how these kind of decisions can't be made in a vacuum.  And certainly shouldn't be left for buyers to discover AFTER they've made a purchase decision -- only to realize their new Legacy locomotive needs to be "modified" (and probably void the warranty) in order to work in those environments.  Not good.

I take a lot of heat here on the forum for shining the spotlight on an importer, when they don't follow good business practices.  But this is once again another example of the left and right hand not knowing what's going on at Lionel.  Another example is the fact that the instruction manuals for these locomotives have not been updated, so they're still showing the Odyssey on/off switch as being on the locomotive when in fact it's no longer there.   It begs the question whether somebody here at Lionel Stateside is making these kinds of decisions.  Or whether the Chinese factory is acting on some kind of overarching direction from Lionel Stateside's CBC (i.e., that's a new C-level acronym for Chief Bean Counter) to trim costs wherever possible.  Or worse yet, whether the Chinese factory is just making these changes willy-nilly, and Lionel Stateside discovers what's going on after the fact.  Whatever the case may be, none of those scenarios leave us with a nice warm-and-fuzzy feeling.  But I think we're all getting accustomed to that feeling nowadays.    Building toy trains is not an easy business (anymore).

On the plus side of things... at least the new S2 locomotive appears to be a winner in all other respects.  Love the swinging bell, and the smooth running operation.  The former is just a cool feature, and the latter is ever-so-important by today's standards.  Nobody wants jerky, slow-speed operation that's plaguing the latest Lionel Mogul... nor do we want locomotives that start up at 40mph.  We've all moved past those days.

This engine runs smoother than the old TMCC issue.  It is fantastic.   I own a small handful of engines and if I do not like an engine, I do not buy it.  I  will settle for perfect operation only.  This is a perfect running locomotive.   All trains on my layout are run in command mode.  

 

 

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I've been having issues with Legacy functioning on my layout and have the engine running conventional for the time being. I've got little free time these days but I've put some time on this engine. I can say it is a real winner.

It is absolutely perfect out of the box and runs, sounds, and looks great. I'm quite happy with it. The swinging bell is a cool feature that brings a lot of attention to it. Very happy with it.

Just called my local dealer, they had to call me back but yes, the one I ordered is in and waiting for me. With so much stuff coming in late in the year, I can understand why they missed calling me. No harm, no foul. Saturday I go and pick it up. Hope to try and finish my Christmas layout this weekend. When I do, I'll pop some picks somewhere(think there is an under the Christmas tree topic out there).

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