ed h posted:

Whats up with the NYC Empire State Express pass cars (83617 & 83618) on page 58-59 ?   Aren't those the same two pass cars from 2 pack 83616 (2017 Signature Catalog) ?

Yes they are but there was some kind of problem in the past with them. When I mean problem I mean not the product itself but the buyers. If think this was discussed earlier in this thread. 

Dave45681 posted:
Grampstrains posted:
Big Jim posted:

I see that once again Lionel missed the party with the Shark Fin car. Should have been painted up in Jimmy Buffett "Fins" and with sound playing the song!

~~~~^~~~~^~~~~^~~~~^~~~~

And add another 100.00 to the price.

And the kids they are trying to aim it at would all know/care who Jimmy Buffett is, right?  (I'm thinking no).

-Dave

If you think some movie houses, or restaurant franchises have large licensing fees, you haven't experienced getting a license for Jimmy Buffet stuff.  I haven't personally, but associates in the music biz have, and Jimmy makes a ton of money off of licensing.   Smart businessman.

Music, trains, boneless chicken farming
David

G3750 posted:
Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:
G3750 posted:

Check out pages 54-55.  Apparently someone at Lionel is smoking something.      

http://catalogs.lionel.com/19c2/

George

Yeah George, that one really made my jaw drop. I didn't think it was from smoking though.

Yeah, I'm thinking something much, much more serious.  

Wow, just wow.  And at $45 a pop MSRP, too.    

I simply don't understand it.

George

I think they're cool.   Would look good behind my Beeps

Music, trains, boneless chicken farming
David

Well, I looked at the catalog online.  Ordered the Challenger Expansion Pack, Baggage Promontory and yes... The camera equipped vista dome.  So far the set is complete and I know I would want it later.  Enough watching auction sites after the release.  Took me 2 years to complete my MTH 20th Century passenger cars.

I was disappointed no C&O wooden boxcar.  It will look good with my Allegheny and Coal Hoppers.  My gut says, next catalog.  The good news is that I am in for less than $1,000.  Been a long time.  No motive required.  That helped.

Bryant

TCA 18-73717

Roger Wasson posted:

On page 103 they have "POWER & CONTROL". But it only shows transformers and powerhouses. NO Legacy or other control items ???????  Are they not going to be selling Legacy in the future with all of it's controls?

But I will buy the George Bush Funeral train and also the FRISCO #4524 Steam and Tender.

My guess is that Lionel ran out of space in this catalog.  Legacy control will be BAAAAAACK!

 

 

RT   

The Cotton Belt ABBA is a beautiful, beautiful loc consist.  Gorgeous in Black Widow.

The SP S-4 is a major attraction.  Will look nice on my layout.

I cannot any longer buy the large 072 only locs as I only have one relatively short 072 loop on my new layout.  I have as many of the large locs as I can successfully incorporate.  BUT.  I might sell some of old ones and spring for the new with B/T, etc.  Lionel - for me -has made good, generally reliable products in this category.

There are about another half-dozen items from this catalog that will find a home at my home.  

 

 

RT   

NOT LionelLLC posted:
Rider Sandman posted:

I’m looking forward to seeing the dealer custom runs. The switchers and F7s seem like good candidates. 

You mean like these 2?  Scroll down.

Lionel Custom Run GG1

Stu

 

Stuart - Really like these 2 GG-1s.   I know METCA really stands for Metropolitan Train Collectors Anonymous.

"Hello, my name is ______ and I have a train collecting addiction"

 

 

EscapeRocks posted:
Dave45681 posted:
Grampstrains posted:
Big Jim posted:

I see that once again Lionel missed the party with the Shark Fin car. Should have been painted up in Jimmy Buffett "Fins" and with sound playing the song!

~~~~^~~~~^~~~~^~~~~^~~~~

And add another 100.00 to the price.

And the kids they are trying to aim it at would all know/care who Jimmy Buffett is, right?  (I'm thinking no).

-Dave

If you think some movie houses, or restaurant franchises have large licensing fees, you haven't experienced getting a license for Jimmy Buffet stuff.  I haven't personally, but associates in the music biz have, and Jimmy makes a ton of money off of licensing.   Smart businessman.

And I bet he would sell a ton of them just through "Margaritaville"!!!

~~~^~~~^~~~^~~~ Fins to the left, fins to the right ~~~^~~~^~~~^~~~

And...we're the only bait in town. 

EscapeRocks posted:
G3750 posted:
Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:
G3750 posted:

Check out pages 54-55.  Apparently someone at Lionel is smoking something.      

http://catalogs.lionel.com/19c2/

George

Yeah George, that one really made my jaw drop. I didn't think it was from smoking though.

Yeah, I'm thinking something much, much more serious.  

Wow, just wow.  And at $45 a pop MSRP, too.    

I simply don't understand it.

George

I think they're cool.   Would look good behind my Beeps

With RMT's Peeps out of stock, Lionel is making a move to corner the market.

Matt_GNo27 posted:
EscapeRocks posted:
G3750 posted:
Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:
G3750 posted:

Check out pages 54-55.  Apparently someone at Lionel is smoking something.      

http://catalogs.lionel.com/19c2/

George

Yeah George, that one really made my jaw drop. I didn't think it was from smoking though.

Yeah, I'm thinking something much, much more serious.  

Wow, just wow.  And at $45 a pop MSRP, too.    

I simply don't understand it.

George

I think they're cool.   Would look good behind my Beeps

With RMT's Peeps out of stock, Lionel is making a move to corner the market.

I like the O-6-0T train sets on Pg 74-75.   Interesting move into this small size.  I might order the Granite Run Quarry set.   Even these inexpensive engines have LC+2.0.

O Gauge: the IMAX of Model Railroading, and a multi-sensory experience.

Interesting to see the Rock Island 4-8-4. The Rock had quite a fleet of large steam locomotives, yet such locos from Lionel have been practically non-existent, which has caused some complaints for quite awhile. Lionel did a Rock Mikado and a Mogel, but it has been years since those came out, and the last large engine, another 4-8-4, was made over 30 years ago (1988)!  

tom21pa posted:
Thaddeus posted:

The NS OCS engines are going to get me.  I've been waiting for these for some time.  

"Just when I think I'm out, they bring me right back in!"

I hope the catalog picture is wrong, the HEP exhaust doesn't look right.  

They should have used the current three numbers instead of four to differentiate these from the MTH offerings (or at least given people the choice). Surprised they made these anyway since MTH has made 2 or 3 offerings in PS2 and PS3. NS hardly uses them now except for large executive trips like Augusta. 

Larry Neal TCA, LCCA Fan of the ACL, SAL, SOU, Clinchfield

Larry Neal posted:
tom21pa posted:
Thaddeus posted:

The NS OCS engines are going to get me.  I've been waiting for these for some time.  

"Just when I think I'm out, they bring me right back in!"

I hope the catalog picture is wrong, the HEP exhaust doesn't look right.  

They should have used the current three numbers instead of four to differentiate these from the MTH offerings (or at least given people the choice). Surprised they made these anyway since MTH has made 2 or 3 offerings in PS2 and PS3. NS hardly uses them now except for large executive trips like Augusta. 

In the notch 6 podcast they said there will be a second run with the current numbers to help pay for tooling cost. Also stated the passenger cars will be a darker shade of Tuscan red. Will also be a rerun of the theater car buena vista with the darker red to match. 

Larry Neal posted:
tom21pa posted:
Thaddeus posted:

The NS OCS engines are going to get me.  I've been waiting for these for some time.  

"Just when I think I'm out, they bring me right back in!"

I hope the catalog picture is wrong, the HEP exhaust doesn't look right.  

They should have used the current three numbers instead of four to differentiate these from the MTH offerings (or at least given people the choice). Surprised they made these anyway since MTH has made 2 or 3 offerings in PS2 and PS3. NS hardly uses them now except for large executive trips like Augusta. 

So I guess the executive inspection from Chicago to Harrisburg 2 weeks ago, or the Norfolk to Cincinnati prior to that don’t count? 

With the current atmosphere at NS, if it’s not useful it’s gone. The OCS is still used extensively. 

As for the numbers, the f units were only recently renumbered in the past few months. I’d rather see them in the 4270 series as they were intended - Wick choose those numbers as continuation of the Southern Railways numbering for their F Units. The current 3 number assigned is pointless. 

As for differences - the Lionel will have legacy and railsounds versus the DCS and Proto sounds of the prior MTH releases, and the new Lionel version will have a closer versions of the NS generator and dining cars.  

M. J. Breen

 

TCA 15-71060

LCCA 40229

 

"May the Schwartz be with you" 

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