O Gauge Layout in a 130 Square Foot Room - Blackwater Canyon Line - NEW REAL ESTATE MAY BE ACQUIRED!!

Wow!  Lots of feedback!  Thank you everyone!  Thank you Dave for the different designs!

I think Dave showed that the wye is pretty much out.  It may fit, but there would be S curves, one loop completely under the other (which might be a okay) but I'm thinking it won't work well.

On the yard peninsula being parallel, I only see aisles about 18" wide.  That could be extended a couple inches here or there, but much too narrow for the long run.  I plan to store things under the layout.  I may need to roll a chair in someday in the future.

The angled yard makes larger aisles, but one pinches down to a point.  That may be more workable actually.

Now to the yard on the main shelf between the two mainline tracks.  Dave got it to fit in 30 inches.  There aren't as many tracks, but they can be longer.  That isn't bad.  

I think I am going to have to ponder this some more.  As was expected, none of the scenarios will be perfect.  Each will have a drawback.

Here is an idea someone emailed me about.  He sent me a hand drawn .pdf.  I doctored up an earlier design just enough to show the basic concept.  I know there are lots of gaps.  He is using this concept on his layout and I have seen others do it.  Instead of the end loops going through switches to single track mainline. He showed what is in effect a double mainline.  He likes that because he can run two trains independently with a longer run.  It is a good concept, but as I told him it goes against my desire to depict the prototype.  I'll through my chicken scratches out to stir the pot.  

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JD2035RR posted:

Not to be another chef in the kitchen, but once the yard location is determined, I think those long straightaways on the main could use gentle sweeping curves 

Credit Ed Theisinger for the photo on ctt website

 

You are absolutely right JD!  Here is that consist just waiting for a layout!!  The photograph you posted shows why I am leaning against the double mainline up and back down.

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I like the new design. I know you're trying to keep the width to 30" but you might consider adding one more siding and making the width a little bigger - perhaps 36". I think it would be worth the extra effort, plus once it's built, you shouldn't really have to stretch and reach the purple line against the wall.

The extra width in the middle should also allow you to build a nice layout/control panel.

Richie C. posted:

I like the new design. I know you're trying to keep the width to 30" but you might consider adding one more siding and making the width a little bigger - perhaps 36". I think it would be worth the extra effort, plus once it's built, you shouldn't really have to stretch and reach the purple line against the wall.

The extra width in the middle should also allow you to build a nice layout/control panel.

Richie, I agree, once done building, it should be rare to need to reach in 36".  The extra 6 inches would be very valuable.

Mark, I tried the dual main approach early on, but didn't show you. Here's a current version based on the latest design. I did not go through the trouble of setting heights or grades, so I'm not including the SCARM file. Note the reduced size of the yard. That can be offset some by deleting the runaround track. Just more food for thought.

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Richie C. posted:

I like the new design. I know you're trying to keep the width to 30" but you might consider adding one more siding and making the width a little bigger - perhaps 36". I think it would be worth the extra effort, plus once it's built, you shouldn't really have to stretch and reach the purple line against the wall.

The extra width in the middle should also allow you to build a nice layout/control panel.

Richie, I agree, once done building, it should be rare to need to reach in 36".  The extra 6 inches would be very valuable.

I tend to agree with Richie, but increasing the width to 36" affects more than just the reach along the back wall. It also affects the size of the loop on the right side and the town you want to put there as well as the reach to the lower left corner. I always question just how hard it is to reach 36" simply by using a step stool. I do like the idea for a control panel and that could be mobile to swing under the layout.

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