New Visionline 4449

would you please post a Video and a picture of your engine so we can all enjoy!

sincerely thanks!

Alan

@Trinity River Bottoms Boomer posted:

Not to sound disrespectfu, but only God and the best president to ever run Espee, A.D. McDonald, considered the 4449 and rest of the fleet to be painted in the famous Daylight scheme, Period!

No Red, White & Blue, not black, and for heaven's sake...Never Never BNSF!  Gads, what a chilling thought?

Sort of like the PINK GG1 Williams produced many years ago...

And now the 'Warbonnet' Santa Fe Acela  in the new L catalog...

...which is why I find myself often running...not walking/sauntering...over to Scott Mann's 3rd Rail website for a refreshing view of sanity/dignity after seeing these... ...of the imagination.  (Mom said 'Say something nice or nothing at all!')

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This coffee needs something more this morning!...  Where's the Bailey's???

So... these Vision engines are being delivered??? Have others received them? Pics?? Reviews? Thoughts?

@Trinity River Bottoms Boomer posted:

Not to sound disrespectfu, but only God and the best president to ever run Espee, A.D. McDonald, considered the 4449 and rest of the fleet to be painted in the famous Daylight scheme, Period!

No Red, White & Blue, not black, and for heaven's sake...Never Never BNSF!  Gads, what a chilling thought?

Southern Pacific, under Mr. McDonald, was truly Espee's Finest Hour!

Well,,,,,,,,,,,,,that's just your OPINION!  As a member of the crew on 4449, since the summer of 1975, the poor locomotive would STILL be rusting away in Oaks Park, Portland, OR, if it had not been for the American Freedom Train. Personally, I don't care WHAT COLOR 4449 is painted, so long as she continues to operate. We all experienced some fantastic times with 4449, whether in red, white & blue, or red, black & orange, or gloss black (for BN), and to be honest, from my vantage point in the cab, I really didn't care WHAT COLOR she was painted!

Don't these have the new steam cylinder effects?  That would be cool to see.

@dkdkrd posted:

Sort of like the PINK GG1 Williams produced many years ago...

And now the 'Warbonnet' Santa Fe Acela  in the new L catalog...

...which is why I find myself often running...not walking/sauntering...over to Scott Mann's 3rd Rail website for a refreshing view of sanity/dignity after seeing these... ...of the imagination.  (Mom said 'Say something nice or nothing at all!').

This coffee needs something more this morning!...  Where's the Bailey's???

I just added the Warbonnet Acela to my list from the catalog.  One, I think it's cool, and two, because it irrationally makes people angry that it's being offered

Others I have:

Daylight Cab Forward, Black Bonnet SF pulling SuperChief pax cars, and a modern version Girls Train.

Genoz,  that’s a beautiful set, thank you for the video, it’s really nice. Happy Railroading

@EscapeRocks posted:

I just added the Warbonnet Acela to my list from the catalog.  One, I think it's cool, and two, because it irrationally makes people angry that it's being offered

LOL.  I like that thinking!

@EscapeRocks posted:

I just added the Warbonnet Acela to my list from the catalog.  One, I think it's cool, and two, because it irrationally makes people angry that it's being offered

Irrationally perfectly describes it.

That's a sharp looking train @Genoz. Looks great and sounds great!

@Trinity River Bottoms Boomer posted:

dkdkrd, you bet, a visit to Scott Mann's 3rd Rail site is Pure Pleasure O scale, and the S gauge boys aren't left out either.  They can enjoy SP steam on the River Raisin site as well!

Joe

The closest you'll get to a GS4 from River Raisin is one of these...

Which in OK by me, I prefer the MT-4/5 over the GS4 anyway.

Rusty

Is the Mars light working?

Beautiful engine, Genoz... while I love the Daylight scheme (I have one from the last Legacy run), I think the Freedom Train scheme was the classiest of all the Bicentennial schemes. Is that the late 40’s Freedom Train on the upper level??? If so, that’s a great pairing. Thanks for sharing.

@MartyE posted:

Is the Mars light working?

Didn't look like it. Plus, why the green class lights?????

@Hot Water posted:

Didn't look like it. Plus, why the green class lights?????

Probably because the look "pretty" and no one at Lionel understands the meaning of class lights.

Rusty

@Hot Water posted:

Didn't look like it. Plus, why the green class lights?????

@Rusty Traque posted:

Probably because the look "pretty" and no one at Lionel understands the meaning of class lights.

Rusty

The operator can change those to white or turn them off using the CAB2.

@MartyE posted:

The operator can change those to white or turn them off using the CAB2.

Marty is correct on the class light color(s). While a relatively new feature, it has been/will be rolled into the new engines as Dave demonstrated with his recent Facebook Live sessions.

Charlie

thanks for posting the video of your new engine and cars, it's really beautiful!

Alan

Love the green class lights - also the option to change the color - good job Lionel

The previous video I found out by holding the aux 1 button on Cab 2 all the smoke bells and whistles were started with the motion. Having lots of fun discovering functions!  Oh the reason for the vertical aspect is so you don’t see stuff!

Wow!  I’ve got mine (SP Lines 4449 to match my 18” aluminum SP Lines passenger cars from a number of years back) on order from Charlie Ro, hopefully will be seeing it soon!  Where did you get yours from?

I ordered it from Lionel direct !

You can compare your model against the real deal.  This video was taken at the 2019 National Garden Railroad Convention in Portland, OR.  NH Joe

@Genoz posted:

Oh the reason for the vertical aspect is so you don’t see stuff!

I'd rather see stuff. LOL!

Well, this proves that at least some of them are on this side of the ocean. My dealer (Nassau) told me last week that they were coming in very soon, so I expect mine to ship in a few days time. I’ve gone in for one of the GS-5 versions.

@Genoz posted:

The previous video I found out by holding the aux 1 button on Cab 2 all the smoke bells and whistles were started with the motion. Having lots of fun discovering functions!

I don’t think that the manuals for these VL versions are posted online yet but you might want to check yours about switching on the light functions. In the first video the Mars (upper) headlight is off and in the second video it does not seem to be flashing. That’s not prototypical or what you get from similarly equipped Lionel steamers.

@Hancock52 posted:

I don’t think that the manuals for these VL versions are posted online yet but you might want to check yours about switching on the light functions. In the first video the Mars (upper) headlight is off and in the second video it does not seem to be flashing. That’s not prototypical or what you get from similarly equipped Lionel steamers.

Vision GS Manual

Pushing and holding the AUX2 button will bring up the lighting menu.  The Mars light On/Off is indicated by a half shaded circle in the 4 and 7 position of the keypad.

@MartyE posted:

Vision GS Manual

Thanks, I have found it. Lighting features are on p. 16 but there’s no specific text about the Mars Light. Offhand I can’t remember which of the Aux2 menu CAB2 buttons relates to it.

Looks beautiful! I can't wait for mine to arrive!

@Hancock52 posted:

Thanks, I have found it. Lighting features are on p. 16 but there’s no specific text about the Mars Light. Offhand I can’t remember which of the Aux2 menu CAB2 buttons relates to it.

See my edit of my previous post.  Lionel should include this in the section that deals with the marker lights.  The only thing that concerns me is a forum member got a PRR Trainmaster that was supposed to have a Mars light and it didn't operate that way. Not sure if he ever good resolution.

@MartyE posted:

See my edit of my previous post.  Lionel should include this in the section that deals with the marker lights.  The only thing that concerns me is a forum member got a PRR Trainmaster that was supposed to have a Mars light and it didn't operate that way. Not sure if he ever good resolution.

Thanks for this Marty, and I remember the PRR model issue. This is something Lionel has messed up before but you don't expect that on a VL model. I do wonder whether there is some double-tap control of the Mars button by which you can toggle the light between constantly on and flashing but in any case it should flash.

@Hancock52 posted:

Thanks for this Marty, and I remember the PRR model issue. This is something Lionel has messed up before but you don't expect that on a VL model. I do wonder whether there is some double-tap control of the Mars button by which you can toggle the light between constantly on and flashing but in any case it should flash.

That is the unknown right now without a better explanation in the manual.  Maybe @Dave Olson can help explain how this is working for the new VL.  Maybe it is a 3 state setting. Off / On / Mars.  I must admit I only have 1 engine with a MARS light and it's been a while since I had it out to remember what the operation of it is.

Genoz - Nice train and nice video but regardless of your explanation as to why you shot a 'vertical' video I hope you realize that you're now destined to get a hunk of coal in next year's Christmas stocking from either Santa or Rich Melvin or both (lol)!    

If fantasy schemes sell, I don't see the issue with them.  Maybe not my taste, but what does my opinion matter on someone else's layout?

As to the topic, glad to hear you enjoy your AFT GS4.  I saw the Reading T1 version when it came to the NJ shore when I was 7.  It was a fun experience. 

@GG1 4877 posted:

If fantasy schemes sell, I don't see the issue with them.  Maybe not my taste, but what does my opinion matter on someone else's layout?

Jonathan I agree 100%.  I may not care for it, I can certainly voice my opinion, but in the end it's up to the folks buying them.  It's their railroad they are entitled to spend their money and operate their layout as they see fit.

Why are folks still calling this a "fantasy scheme"? I guess Lionel offers so many now, its hard to tell.

( Not my video)

@Genoz posted:

I ordered it from Lionel direct !

Lionel sells brand new product direct to customers now?  Thats not a good way to keep your dealers & distributors happy.  

@DaveSlie posted:

Lionel sells brand new product direct to customers now?  Thats not a good way to keep your dealers & distributors happy.  

They have done this for quite a while but AFAIK, from looking at the listed items online, you pay full list price.