New Visionline 4449

@Will Ebbert
Thanks very much for these photos and video. Obviously different camera settings will produce different white balance and color saturation in photos, but I think I’m satisfied that this run of Daylights are pretty much the same in terms of the colors Lionel has used fairly recently, as in 2013 and later.

The front marker lights issue is a real bore, however, as the ability to change colors was a highly touted feature of these engines. If or when you get it sorted out please post the fix. Frankly I am really apprehensive about finding issues with mine when it arrives!

I kind of agree with the opinion on crew talk as it applies to all engines. But you really can’t add much more to crew talk than we already have, unless the crew and the tower start talking about the weather or sports. There are only so many things to say between the crew and tower. When I watch some of the videos on the Forum, guys record a lot of crew talk like it’s the latest and greatest thing. Crew talk has been around for a while. Don’t get me wrong, I love having crew talk, but it has its limits.

@Will Ebbert posted:

Here's some better photos of the Daylight GS-4 (Southern Pacific Lines 4449).

I hope those colors shown in your photos aren't what the actual ones look like.   

@breezinup posted:

I hope those colors shown in your photos aren't what the actual ones look like.   

They're a little under saturated. The second photo is pretty representative, but as has to be stated on all of the discussions of the color of any model, lighting in a room significantly changes colors.

@Genoz posted:

Nice video, thanks. I can’t make out whether the Daylight on the lower track is one of the new VLs - classification lights on the engine don’t look as bright as all the VL models appear to be. And since there appears to be a matching Daylight AWT behind it, I’m guessing that maybe it’s an MTH engine? Sorry if this info is further up the thread - I haven’t gone back over it again.

Sorry the 4449 is a legacy engine from a few years back, the freedom is a new Vision Line. There is a better vid at the beginning of this thread and more vids at YouTube@GeneFrance.

I have ordered the GGD Daylight set to pull behind my 4449. I do not care if the colors are not a perfect match. The GGD cars are in a league of their own. More expensive, yes. They are worth it to me.

Al

@Al Nevada posted:

I have ordered the GGD Daylight set to pull behind my 4449. I do not care if the colors are not a perfect match. The GGD cars are in a league of their own. More expensive, yes. They are worth it to me.

Al

I’ve done the same and also don’t care if they match. I was still in college when GGD produced the first Daylight set so I couldn’t afford it even though the price was far better back then. Now that I’m in a good place financially, I can finally get one

Same here regarding the GGD cars - only the scale versions are being made and I have a few on order to complete what I have already got, which includes the articulated diner and tavern car. They won't be anything like an exact match - do I care? No. The cars and the engine(s) - all Lionel - will stand out on their own. Besides, it's my railroad.

My 4449 Visionline, brand new three months old failed. It seems that it would start then shorts out before start up. The lights come on the the breaker blows. I tried it on two different tracks. I tried to hit reset before it shut down. Got any other ideas?

@Genoz posted:

My 4449 Visionline, brand new three months old failed. It seems that it would start then shorts out before start up. The lights come on the the breaker blows. I tried it on two different tracks. I tried to hit reset before it shut down. Got any other ideas?

Could be a rubbing or pinched wire: https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/...ith-surprises?page=1

The dog did it...knocked the feed wire loose and im up and running again