New Williams GE 70 Ton Scale Diesel and Amtrak F59PHI Locomotive Announcements (Preorder Now)

Any suggestions for passenger cars to go with the Amtrak California locomotive?   

MTH should time a release of another run of Amtrak California bi-levels.  

 

Love the Tropicana switcher!  Great idea.  The 44 ton ought to be painted in Cargill,  Morton Salt, etc.

There is smoke at Williams afterall...hopefully this means fire with more new products and some missing items.

VistaDomeScott posted:

Any suggestions for passenger cars to go with the Amtrak California locomotive?  

Wait and hope WBB issues matching cars. Makes sense that they would.

MTH should time a release of another run of Amtrak California bi-levels.  

In all likelihood, the colors wouldn't match the WBB engines.

Last I saw you could pick up a Bachmann HO scale 70 tonner for around $59. But they want almost $500 list for this Williams O scale model???  Sheeesh, no wonder this hobby is in danger of receding, what with these millionaire-hobbiers' prices!!

Nahhh Williams, I'll stick with the older K-Line S2 diesel switchers you can obtain from ebay, usually for $75 to $125. These K-Line S2's may not have sound or DCC, but on my 3-rail 027 layout they operate very well, and they look just like the 70 tonners. {-Which IMO have a plain and simple [and somewhat boring?] body style anyway..!}

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Greywoulf posted:

Last I saw you could pick up a Bachmann HO scale 70 tonner for around $59. But they want almost $500 list for this Williams O scale model???  Sheeesh, no wonder this hobby is in danger of receding, what with these millionaire-hobbiers' prices!!

Nahhh Williams, I'll stick with the older K-Line S2 diesel switchers you can obtain from ebay, usually for $75 to $125. These K-Line S2's may not have sound or DCC, but on my 3-rail 027 layout they operate very well, and they look just like the 70 tonners. {-Which IMO have a plain and simple [and somewhat boring?] body style anyway..!}

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It's been said that historically, Bachmann sets MSRP's high to give its dealers more room to discount. This was known all the way to the beginning of Bachmann's involvement with Williams. 

In this particular announcement, the pre-order price for the Bachmann 70-tonner is half of what you quoted for the list.

---PCJ

Greywoulf posted:

Last I saw you could pick up a Bachmann HO scale 70 tonner for around $59. But they want almost $500 list for this Williams O scale model???  Sheeesh, no wonder this hobby is in danger of receding, what with these millionaire-hobbiers' prices!!

Nahhh Williams, I'll stick with the older K-Line S2 diesel switchers you can obtain from ebay, usually for $75 to $125. These K-Line S2's may not have sound or DCC, but on my 3-rail 027 layout they operate very well, and they look just like the 70 tonners. {-Which IMO have a plain and simple [and somewhat boring?] body style anyway..!}

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This is Charlie's price! $249.99 not $500  

 

      

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Does this 70 ton have the same junky plastic handrails as the 44-ton?  Those are so fragile that it's almost impossible to work on one of those without breaking them.  Then Williams has the audacity to charge $26 for the replacement set of handrails, a parts set that must have cost at least 25 cents to mold!

The MTH 44-ton at least has handrails that will survive longer than a month or two of running and/or handling.

gunrunnerjohn posted:

Does this 70 ton have the same junky plastic handrails as the 44-ton?  Those are so fragile that it's almost impossible to work on one of those without breaking them.  Then Williams has the audacity to charge $26 for the replacement set of handrails, a parts set that must have cost at last 25 cents to mold!

The MTH 44-ton at least has handrails that will survive longer than a month or two of running and/or handling.

Agreed John. Those hand rails are terrible. 

      

Chris.

 

Home of the C.L.&M railroad

 

 

 

 

  

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