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leapinlarryleapinlarryOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBERDIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

Yes, I can see the excitement growing, emotions flowing, looking for a mystery train, accessory, rolling stock to be unveiled, similar to the night before Christmas, and the count down is here, 15 long days away, Oh, what a day it will be, to see what Lionel has for Me..(and You)..Wow, what a wonderful hobby it is...Happy Railroading. Great post, thank you.... 

L LandsteinerOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBER

Perhaps already mentioned, but it was mentioned by Megan that there will be two new "starter" sets, off the typical schedule, one Southern Pacific and one the Hot Wheels set with orange Fastrack. 

It sems fairly clear that Lionel reps asked those present not to share the catalog contents prior to its release to dealers.  Not unreasonable nor a problem since knowing about the contents is not a life or death issue .

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D500D500OGR Forum Member

Would like:

Alco DH643 - the successful (unlike the Krauss-Maffei) diesel-hydraulic on the SP - nicknamed "alcohaulics", I believe. They could "empty the yard".

Never-done NYC Big Steam - like H-10 Mike, K-5 Pacific, their 2-6-6-2 (yes, they did), 0-8-8-0 hump switcher (yes, they did). This has become my mantra.

GM&O (and other) Baby-Face Baldwins - other than the Centipedes.

All of the above are useless daydreaming, of course. The NYC H-10 and K-5 ideas shouldn't have been this hard to get, but they have been. 

falconservicefalconserviceOGR Forum Member

It would be great if in the Volume 2 catalog there were O scale 89' flat cars with Auto Racks THAT ARE painted in 1970's and 1980's era Trailer Train schemes with auto rack schemes for the Norfolk and Western, Denver & Rio Grande Western, Missouri Pacific, COTTON BELT SSW, SCL, L&N, SOUTHERN green, Western Pacific, FRISCO, and The Milwaukee Road. I would actually pay for those 1970's railroads on TRAILER TRAIN 89' flat cars. Please get the graphics right by consulting the archives of TTX and freight car builders.

Andrew

Thank you.

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TT TM TerryOGR Forum Member
D500 posted:

Would like:

Never-done NYC Big Steam - like H-10 Mike, K-5 Pacific, their 2-6-6-2 (yes, they did), 0-8-8-0 hump switcher (yes, they did). 

 

Wasn't the NYC 0-8-8-0 pretty much a total failure apart from altering the one into two lesser locomotives. But I do understand the modeler wanting any and every locomotive their favorite railroad owned, even if the railroad regretted ever wasting good money purchasing it.

Well, Lionel made Baldwin Centipedes and the actual locomotive was a huge disappointment to the railroad. But have they ever considered making a Baldwin Babyface DR4-4-15? I would guess that they felt it wouldn't sell well.

Lionel's experts decide what they believe will sell. And that is what they should do. I am usually both pleased and disappointed with every catalog. 

My hope for this coming catalog is for it to be significantly different from 2017 Vol 1. 

FM Former Member
D500 posted:

Would like:

 

Never-done NYC Big Steam - like H-10 Mike, K-5 Pacific, their 2-6-6-2 (yes, they did), 0-8-8-0 hump switcher (yes, they did). This has become my mantra.

All of the above are useless daydreaming, of course. The NYC H-10 and K-5 ideas shouldn't have been this hard to get, but they have been. 

I'd go for the H-10 and K-5 lettered for the P&LE RR thank you.

Nick

B BigRailOGR Forum Member

Kudos to the LCCA attendees for keeping this a secret.  I'm impressed.  For those of us that enjoy the surprise of what is to come, thank-you.  And remember, no matter how much I beg, no matter what I say, absolutely do not tell me what is in the catalog!

 Ok, ok....please tell me, I can't take it anymore.  I was just kidding...tell me please!

So just to break the monotony, anyone venture a guess what movie I was paying tribute to?  BigRail

B breezinupOGR Forum Member DIGITAL SUBSCRIBER
BigRail posted:

Kudos to the LCCA attendees for keeping this a secret.  I'm impressed.  For those of us that enjoy the surprise of what is to come, thank-you.  And remember, no matter how much I beg, no matter what I say, absolutely do not tell me what is in the catalog!

 Ok, ok....please tell me, I can't take it anymore.  I was just kidding...tell me please!

Well, this "tell some of the kids and keep it a secret from the others" thing seems like grade-school-level stuff to me. Pretty silly.

Just IMHO, of course.

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paigetrainpaigetrainOGR Forum Member
breezinup posted:
BigRail posted:

Kudos to the LCCA attendees for keeping this a secret.  I'm impressed.  For those of us that enjoy the surprise of what is to come, thank-you.  And remember, no matter how much I beg, no matter what I say, absolutely do not tell me what is in the catalog!

 Ok, ok....please tell me, I can't take it anymore.  I was just kidding...tell me please!

Well, this "tell some of the kids and keep it a secret from the others" thing seems like grade-school-level stuff to me. Pretty silly.

Just IMHO, of course.

I know right  just print the darn thing i can't stand the wait anymore

especially if it is all new stuff

JM Janet MatternOGR Forum Member

I would like to see character handcars.  Lionel has paid for the rights to some comic book characters and some Disney characters.  I know that when I talked to some Lionel employees at the World's Greatest Hobby Show when it was in Phoenix in Feb., one mentioned that they are working on Wi-Fi for handcars and that has delayed future releases; I say forget the electronics.

RickORickOOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBER
breezinup posted:

Well, this "tell some of the kids and keep it a secret from the others" thing seems like grade-school-level stuff to me. Pretty silly.

Just IMHO, of course.

What do you expect from a bunch of grown men that play with toy trains??

Having said that, the idea that it won't be a rehash of Vol 1 sounds interesting.

I just have a hunch it will be mostly Lionels line of "throw away trains".

leapinlarryleapinlarryOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBERDIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

I truly am excited about the new catalog debut, however, if there are exciting items to buy, BTO, I will more than likely have to pass if they are not delivered to my dealer, DTMD, before April 1, 2018....Yes, I plan to retire around that time. So, I will have to hope for some great deals here on the forum...It's been fun, but I am getting older and in reality, I have been blessed with enough nice trains to enjoy for many years to come. I will then be visiting my friends all around the USA and seeing some of the really nice layouts posted on this forum, and those that made the pages of OGR THE MAGAZINE, and of course, OGR THE VIDEO. Happy Railroading....

Rocky MountaineerRocky MountaineerOGR Forum Member
prrhorseshoecurve posted:

... I hope the AFT and the Conrail OCS set arrive as stated in the catalog. ... And not all at once!

If I were a betting man (which I'm not), I'd say ALL the 21" passenger sets that have been catalog'd over the past 2 years (except for the Theatre cars) will arrive in December 2017.  So get your wallets ready, everyone.

Any ONE of these sets is a good chunk of change, but I feel for some of you guys who have multiple passenger sets on order.  You're gonna get whallop'd in December.  

MartyEMartyEOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBERDIGITAL SUBSCRIBERMEMORIAL SUPPORTER
Rocky Mountaineer posted:

If I were a betting man (which I'm not), I'd say ALL the 21" passenger sets that have been catalog'd over the past 2 years (except for the Theatre cars) will arrive in December 2017.  So get your wallets ready, everyone.

Any ONE of these sets is a good chunk of change, but I feel for some of you guys who have multiple passenger sets on order.  You're gonna get whallop'd in December.  

If you planned accordingly you should be fine.  They've given everyone more than enough time, intentionally or not, to fund these pre orders.

I can say I've never understood this line of thinking especially when items have been delayed.  Seems you should have had the money for the original due date. Obviously everyone handles their money differently so I guess if you need to start saving, now is the time.

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MartyEMartyEOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBERDIGITAL SUBSCRIBERMEMORIAL SUPPORTER
breezinup posted:

Well, this "tell some of the kids and keep it a secret from the others" thing seems like grade-school-level stuff to me. Pretty silly.

Just IMHO, of course.

Membership has it's privileges.  Attending the convention I guess has it's perks as well.  I have no issue with this.  It's all part of being a member of the LCCA to see advanced product.  I'm sure if someone really wanted to "let the cat" out of the bag so to speak, no one will go to jail over it. 

HW Hot WaterOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBER
Swafford posted:
Hot Water posted:
Swafford posted:

DD35A.............

DD35A V10X

Fantasy. EMD only had two DD35 units and three GP35 units in that Demonstrator paint scheme.

No kidding, it's fantasy LOL...................Give it a break Mr. Right! 

Well,,,,if you aren't going to let the folks know that it is a "fantasy styling" when you post it, don't blame me! Many folks here would not realize that it is a "fantasy scheme".  

AE Alfred E NeumanOGR Forum Member
BigRail posted:

Kudos to the LCCA attendees for keeping this a secret.  I'm impressed.  For those of us that enjoy the surprise of what is to come, thank-you.  And remember, no matter how much I beg, no matter what I say, absolutely do not tell me what is in the catalog!

 Ok, ok....please tell me, I can't take it anymore.  I was just kidding...tell me please!

So just to break the monotony, anyone venture a guess what movie I was paying tribute to?  BigRail

Young Frankenstein.  Number 2 on my list of favorite films, just ahead of The Frisco Kid.  Oy gevalt!

What, me worry?

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MartyEMartyEOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBERDIGITAL SUBSCRIBERMEMORIAL SUPPORTER
david1 posted:

The idea of keeping the release secret after it was released to the Lcca in the convention is childish and just plain idiotic.

Not everybody can go to the convention, some don't  have the time and some can't  afford it,  why should they be left out. 

As I said attending and membership has it's privileges. 

I'm sure if there was big news an attendee would have posted the ground breaking news by now. As we know not everyone will do as asked.  I guess it's just not that big of deal to me that I can't wait until the 17th. 

TT TM TerryOGR Forum Member
MartyE posted:
david1 posted:

The idea of keeping the release secret after it was released to the Lcca in the convention is childish and just plain idiotic.

Not everybody can go to the convention, some don't  have the time and some can't  afford it,  why should they be left out. 

As I said attending and membership has it's privileges. 

I'm sure if there was big news an attendee would have posted the ground breaking news by now. As we know not everyone will do as asked.  I guess it's just not that big of deal to me that I can't wait until the 17th. 

I won't be attending meets or paying their membership fees. So why would I expect to be privy to membership privileged information? I can wait.

SS Scrapiron ScherOGR Forum Member

The really, really, really big news would be for Lionel to produce a hybrid brass Niagara or Hudson ultra detailed. So . . . . . . . my prediction is:

HYBRID BRASS NIAGARA OR HUDSON ULTRA DETAILED. Of course, it will be ultra expensive !!!

That way Lionel can ask a high price and, as you all know, we'll pay it. Niagara with whistle steam and brass detail. Just give them your credit card and have done with it. 

SwaffordSwaffordOGR Forum Member
Hot Water posted:
Swafford posted:
Hot Water posted:
Swafford posted:

DD35A.............

DD35A V10X

Fantasy. EMD only had two DD35 units and three GP35 units in that Demonstrator paint scheme.

No kidding, it's fantasy LOL...................Give it a break Mr. Right! 

Well,,,,if you aren't going to let the folks know that it is a "fantasy styling" when you post it, don't blame me! Many folks here would not realize that it is a "fantasy scheme".  

LOL...........................Blame you! Seriously? LOL!!! 

Get a life Mr. Right! It is a fantasy color scheme! No big deal! LOL

 

CAPPilotCAPPilotOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBERDIGITAL SUBSCRIBER
Nick PghTrainFanatic posted:

I'd hate the price tag but....Legacy PRR S2 Duplex would be sweet!!  It would look real nice rolling around my horseshoe curve!

Nick,

Do you mean the S1 Duplex (6-4-4-6), the S2 Turbine (6-8-6), or the T1 Duplex (4-4-4-4)?  I really want to see a T1 Production engine since there have been a lot of S1 and S2 engines made by multiple manufacturers.

Nick PghTrainFanaticNick PghTrainFanaticOGR Forum Member
CAPPilot posted:
Nick PghTrainFanatic posted:

I'd hate the price tag but....Legacy PRR S2 Duplex would be sweet!!  It would look real nice rolling around my horseshoe curve!

Nick,

Do you mean the S1 Duplex (6-4-4-6), the S2 Turbine (6-8-6), or the T1 Duplex (4-4-4-4)?  I really want to see a T1 Production engine since there have been a lot of S1 and S2 engines made by multiple manufacturers.

Typo. Yes I meant the S1 Duplex 6-4-4-6. You won't see a scale lionel T1 Duplex thanks to the ridiculous lawsuit by MTH over copywrite laws. The T1 Duplex scale with Legacy and whistle smoke would be my #1

BigJohn&theWorkBigJohn&theWorkOGR Forum Member
Nick PghTrainFanatic posted:
gunrunnerjohn posted:

A scale Legacy PRR T1 Duplex with whistle steam would be very nice.

Won't happen John....I want that too but mth sued Lionel over the T1 copywrites for a scale sized engine. That's why you've only seen lionmaster T1 duplexes from Lionel. Sucks

The S2 Turbine was part of the lawsuit and it has been made by Lionel since the lawsuit. 

TT TM TerryOGR Forum Member
Nick PghTrainFanatic posted:
gunrunnerjohn posted:

A scale Legacy PRR T1 Duplex with whistle steam would be very nice.

Won't happen John....I want that too but mth sued Lionel over the T1 copywrites for a scale sized engine. That's why you've only seen lionmaster T1 duplexes from Lionel. Sucks

I will admit to know little or nothing of copyright law, but how is it possible for one to own the sole rights to making a 1:48 scale model of any railroad item? Maybe they own the copyright to the "method" they used to make the scale model. If so, Lionel needs to reverse engineer from the actual locomotive, avoiding the method MTH used. I would gather the Lionmaster T-1 used the MTH methodology, but because it wasn't the same scale as MTH, there is no legal case.

I would like some further clarification if anyone knows some details; in layman terms, please.

Nick PghTrainFanaticNick PghTrainFanaticOGR Forum Member
BigJohn&theWork posted:
Nick PghTrainFanatic posted:
gunrunnerjohn posted:

A scale Legacy PRR T1 Duplex with whistle steam would be very nice.

Won't happen John....I want that too but mth sued Lionel over the T1 copywrites for a scale sized engine. That's why you've only seen lionmaster T1 duplexes from Lionel. Sucks

The S2 Turbine was part of the lawsuit and it has been made by Lionel since the lawsuit. 

Doesn't make sense.  I never heard the turbine was in that ordeal. I did hear the N&W 1218 was. 

Nick PghTrainFanaticNick PghTrainFanaticOGR Forum Member
TM Terry posted:
Nick PghTrainFanatic posted:
gunrunnerjohn posted:

A scale Legacy PRR T1 Duplex with whistle steam would be very nice.

Won't happen John....I want that too but mth sued Lionel over the T1 copywrites for a scale sized engine. That's why you've only seen lionmaster T1 duplexes from Lionel. Sucks

I will admit to know little or nothing of copyright law, but how is it possible for one to own the sole rights to making a 1:48 scale model of any railroad item? Maybe they own the copyright to the "method" they used to make the scale model. If so, Lionel needs to reverse engineer from the actual locomotive, avoiding the method MTH used. I would gather the Lionmaster T-1 used the MTH methodology, but because it wasn't the same scale as MTH, there is no legal case.

I would like some further clarification if anyone knows some details; in layman terms, please.

I don't know the whole lingo with that story but I've heard it from multiple sources. I agree with you. It's total baloney!!!!

Mikado 4501Mikado 4501OGR Forum Member

I think that if Lionel would do a scale T-1 Duplex (which I admit would be great) again, they'd have to invest in complete new tooling after the lawsuit. They made all new tooling for the Allegheny and the Big Boy in 2005-6, which I'm not 100% sure were also involved in the copyright scandal in 2000, but wouldn't surprise me if they were.

I still stand strong by my beliefs that Lionel should re-release a Legacy version of the J3A class Hudson with whistle steam. Much like the scale T-1 Duplex, it's been absent from the Lionel line for 15+ years. There's clearly a whole LOT of people on this forum who would snap it up at the flick of a switch - hence why it's really hard to find the 2002 version anywhere, even on the bay - and it's an engine that can be done in multiple variations, much like the 2015 Empire State Express was. If there's an old engine I would like Lionel to rehash, it's this one.

As for any others, I do think Lionel has made just about every engine I do want, but I will agree a Legacy Niagara, and L3/4 class Mohawk would be great.

romiller49romiller49OGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBERDIGITAL SUBSCRIBER
Scrapiron Scher posted:

The really, really, really big news would be for Lionel to produce a hybrid brass Niagara or Hudson ultra detailed. So . . . . . . . my prediction is:

HYBRID BRASS NIAGARA OR HUDSON ULTRA DETAILED. Of course, it will be ultra expensive !!!

That way Lionel can ask a high price and, as you all know, we'll pay it. Niagara with whistle steam and brass detail. Just give them your credit card and have done with it. 

I agree with your selection, however I do not think Lionel could risk leaving out their dealers again. I think the first go around was to test the waters and it appears it was successful. The pricing will be another story.

Rod Miller

D500D500OGR Forum Member
TM Terry posted:
Nick PghTrainFanatic posted:
gunrunnerjohn posted:

A scale Legacy PRR T1 Duplex with whistle steam would be very nice.

Won't happen John....I want that too but mth sued Lionel over the T1 copywrites for a scale sized engine. That's why you've only seen lionmaster T1 duplexes from Lionel. Sucks

I will admit to know little or nothing of copyright law, but how is it possible for one to own the sole rights to making a 1:48 scale model of any railroad item? Maybe they own the copyright to the "method" they used to make the scale model. If so, Lionel needs to reverse engineer from the actual locomotive, avoiding the method MTH used. I would gather the Lionmaster T-1 used the MTH methodology, but because it wasn't the same scale as MTH, there is no legal case.

I would like some further clarification if anyone knows some details; in layman terms, please.

I don't know the whole lingo with that story but I've heard it from multiple sources. I agree with you. It's total baloney!!!!

-----------

Not to dredge up old corpses:

There is no "copyright" of a 1:48 model of a T-1, or anything else. Lionel (and their Korean builder) were guilty of industrial espionage (sounds so Big Corporate) by actually stealing the model designs from MTH - not the PRR replica part, but the underlying machinery and parts design on a few locos in order to get to the market sooner and cheaper. The "lawsuit engines" include the PRR T-1, N&W A 2-6-6-4 and the C&O Allegheny, if my memory serves me well. Maybe more(?). Been a while. These locos contained part designs that were exact copies of MTH parts, or so it was stated. (To be honest, years ago, a friend and I compared my Lionel 2-6-6-4 with his MTH 2-6-6-4 - underneath, not in the "replica" area - and we could see no particular precise similarity in shapes and forms of the mechanicals/structure between the two - but we didn't take anything apart - and it's been a long time...)

Note that none of these TMCC locos ever even appeared with Odyssey, to say nothing of Legacy. That's because if Lionel wants to produce them, they have to pay for all-new Lionel-designed tooling, an expensive proposition on designs whose time and market may have passed. Lionel can produce all the 1:48 anythings it wants, if the money is allocated.

That is as I understand it.

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superwarp1superwarp1OGR Forum Member
Mikado 4501 posted:

I think that if Lionel would do a scale T-1 Duplex (which I admit would be great) again, they'd have to invest in complete new tooling after the lawsuit. They made all new tooling for the Allegheny and the Big Boy in 2005-6, which I'm not 100% sure were also involved in the copyright scandal in 2000, but wouldn't surprise me if they were.

I still stand strong by my beliefs that Lionel should re-release a Legacy version of the J3A class Hudson with whistle steam. Much like the scale T-1 Duplex, it's been absent from the Lionel line for 15+ years. There's clearly a whole LOT of people on this forum who would snap it up at the flick of a switch - hence why it's really hard to find the 2002 version anywhere, even on the bay - and it's an engine that can be done in multiple variations, much like the 2015 Empire State Express was. If there's an old engine I would like Lionel to rehash, it's this one.

As for any others, I do think Lionel has made just about every engine I do want, but I will agree a Legacy Niagara, and L3/4 class Mohawk would be great.

Yes J3 Hudson, a hybrid J3!!!!!!

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L LandsteinerOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBER

The issues in the Korea "scandal" were considerably more complex than mentioned, and dramatically affected by differences in Korean and USA law.  In Korea, designers and executives were initially found guilty of industrial misconduct.  

Lionel's subcontractor for diecast locos was a company named Korea Brass, as I recall, and they were subject to separate lawsuits by MTH in the USA, and perhaps in Korea as well.  Design engineers in Korea frequently worked for more than one manufacturer (Korea Brass for Lionel and Samhongsa for MTH being two). They reused designs to save time and energy, which apparently violated Korean law, but perhaps not USA law since the events occurred in Korea. 

There was no finding of liability by Lionel in the US (in comparison to Korea, where individuals were found liable and guilty of violation of Korean laws). The lawsuit between Lionel and MTH was settled by a bankruptcy judge after the initial decision favoring MTH was thrown out on appeal.  An expert witness whose testimony was that Lionel's locos used MTH's designs was a  reason the appeal was successful.  This expert witness was ruled to have used invalid methods of reaching his conclusions.  

I rather doubt there is any obstacle to Lionel producing whatever locos they want with whatever tooling they have access to.  Neither Samhongsa nor Korea Brass still exists to my knowledge.  What happened to those toolings is not entirely clear. MTH seems to have hung onto most or all of their diecast tooling, but the Korea Brass tooling does not seem to be owned by Lionel.  I am not sure about that. 

Shortly after the resolution of the main lawsuit (sealed documents), Lionel licensed production of their iconic trade dress of tinplate prewar equipment to MTH, thus I think it's fair to say the lawsuit was resolved in a way that was satisfactory to some extent to both parties.

 

Probably best not to talk about scandals and guilt when no USA court has found anybody at Lionel or the company itself liable for damages, much less guilty.  It was a negotiated legal settlement that partisans seem to have misunderstood in that respect.  Many people seem to have assumed the guilt of one of Lionel's main executives, but he has never been charged nor ever named in a lawsuit,  and continues to import model trains (primarily HO and N) very successfully  through his own company.  Lots of invidious inferences with no hard data to support them have followed this episode.

falconservicefalconserviceOGR Forum Member
trainroomgary posted:

The first thing I always check for is any thing with this road name.

Detroit & Mackinac RailwayDetroit & Mackinac Railroad Boxcar

Gary

The O Scale Exterior-Braced 50' Double-Door Boxcar that was made in the USA then moved to China has centered doors. They would need to put the DM paint scheme that boxcar in China to get a close approximation. 

The trucks need to be the roller bearing trucks. 

Andrew

falconservicefalconserviceOGR Forum Member

What did happen to the O scale Exterior-Braced 50' Double-Door Boxcar that was made in the USA then moved to China for production?

They have not produced that O scale boxcar in years. There are many more railroads left to produced. McCloud River Railroad, the accurate SOUTHERN PACIFIC scheme, the SOUTHERN Railway, NS, more COTTON BELT, WESTERN PACIFIC, SCL, CSX, D&RGW, and others.

Did the Exterior-Braced 50' Double-Door Boxcar get a page or two in the new Volume 2 catalog? 

Andrew

falconservicefalconserviceOGR Forum Member

Did they lose track of the Exterior-Braced 50' Double-Door Boxcars after the move to China? 

if not, then somebody at Lionel must want us to buy up all the incorrectly painted O scale Exterior-Braced 50' Double-Door Boxcars, remove the wrong graphics and colors, change the trucks, make new decals, and put the right railroad graphics on the boxcars. 

Andrew

trainroomgarytrainroomgaryOGR Forum Member DIGITAL SUBSCRIBER
falconservice posted:

The O Scale Exterior-Braced 50' Double-Door Boxcar that was made in the USA then moved to China has centered doors. They would need to put the DM paint scheme that boxcar in China to get a close approximation. 

The trucks need to be the roller bearing trucks. 

Andrew

Hi Andrew, thanks for the information on the D&M.  Below is a Pere Marquette boxcar, that is on my layout.  Anything with a local road name, is always a good find.  I will be looking for local road names in this up coming Lionel Catalog.

Pere Marquette Boxcar Train Room Gary

Gary

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leapinlarryleapinlarryOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBERDIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

I would like to see Lionel make a really nice Legacy Controlled Trolley Car, with Station Stop Announcements, and whatever other sounds that make it a fun to run people carrier.....Not TMCC like the trackmobiles, but a full functioning Trolley...This would be nice for those with tight curves and it should have directional lighting, swiveling pole, etc.....How about that for a want....

leapinlarryleapinlarryOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBERDIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

thank you (LIONEL) for agreeing on the Trolley Car, there are many neat street cars, one called Desire, so Lionel could produce several of these in different paint schemes...Add the people sitting and standing, neat announcements, all Legacy controlled....Yes to more F7's, SP Daylights, Sante Fe War Bonnets, The Niagara with all the steam effects, blow down, steam cylinder effect, etc, swinging bell. Also another fully equipped Hudson....The list goes on and on and on...They could re-introduce Legacy Budd Cars.....Wow..

TraindieselTraindieselOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBERDIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

Well I'm breaking my silence!  It's my opinion that Lionel will generate more sales if people know what to expect, and the people should know!

To start, what I've seen on the front cover of the catalog is a scale GgywkESIopicvD......  uhhg...ooofff,,,, pow! .....SMASH... ouch!!!  mmfffmmfmfmf....

 

......THIS IS LIONEL PRODUCT SECURITY...... WE HAVE BEEN REQUIRED TO NEUTRALIZE THIS FORUM MEMBER TO PROTECT THE UNFINALIZED VERSION OF LIONEL PRODUCTS........ TRAINDIESEL WILL BE QUARANTINED AND RETURNED TO THIS FORUM UPON CATALOG RELEASE.....  WARNING!!.... CONTINUED GUESSING AND SPECULATING ON CATALOG CONTENTS WILL BE DELT WITH SWIFTLY...... RETURN TO YOUR NORMAL ACTIVITIES........

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paigetrainpaigetrainOGR Forum Member
Traindiesel posted:

Well I'm breaking my silence!  It's my opinion that Lionel will generate more sales if people know what to expect, and the people should know!

To start, what I've seen on the front cover of the catalog is a scale GgywkESIopicvD......  uhhg...ooofff,,,, pow! .....SMASH... ouch!!!  mmfffmmfmfmf....

 

......THIS IS LIONEL PRODUCT SECURITY...... WE HAVE BEEN REQUIRED TO NEUTRALIZE THIS FORUM MEMBER TO PROTECT THE UNFINALIZED VERSION OF LIONEL PRODUCTS........ TRAINDIESEL WILL BE QUARANTINED AND RETURNED TO THIS FORUM UPON CATALOG RELEASE.....  WARNING!!.... CONTINUED GUESSING AND SPECULATING ON CATALOG CONTENTS WILL BE DELT WITH SWIFTLY...... RETURN TO YOUR NORMAL ACTIVITIES........

This sounds like 1984 

Big brother is watching

DennyMDennyMOGR Forum Member
trainroomgary posted:

I have the Lionel Blue Tooth APP, on my iPhone and nothing to run.  I am looking forward to this new part of the hobby. Lionel Blue Tooth APP

Gary: from Michigan, the state with no palm trees but we have Lionel Trains.

I'll stick with the good old fashion 2.4GHz Cab2 Legacy. They can keep WIFI, Bluetooth and what ever else they come up with.

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