Hot Water posted:

Maybe a CB&Q E5A and E5B, with the stainless steel, fluted sides???????

I'd love to see this be offered in brass by 3rd rail. I don't think there are enough buyers for a correct plastic E5 to be profitable. Perhaps if they go for a brass CRISP TA and it goes well a brass E5 would be more likely to happen???

 

Ok silly question time but does someone have a picture of the EMD E6 demonstrator "A" unit? It's on the reserve form but I never seen a picture of the real one. Have any of you (esp Hotwater)? I am aware of the EMD demos E3, E7  (Train of Tomorrow), and the E8 a unit. ( How 'bout dat Hotwater! Finally using da caps in the designations! )

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enginEErjon posted:

Has anyone asked Scott why the B units on the E6 for 3-rail are unpowered? Seems like lately all B units have been powered (E8, F7, PA) so why go back to unpowered? Is it a cost issue or mechanical issue?

 

Exactly.... especially for Santa Fe engines. An unpowered B unit is really pointless. (the 3R E8 Bs were unpowered)

Santa Fe had 7 E6's total built in 1940-41. 4 A's and 3 B's. 12LA, 13LA, 14L, and 15LA were purchased and normally  ran as an AB set, with #14 purchased as an A unit only. So one powered A unit with a dummy B unit is NOT going to pull a lot of train on a grade especially. Granted the trains they pulled were normally  not large trains, 1 powered A unit is just not enough even with traction tires. Make the B units powered. But what do I know!

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Has anyone asked Scott why the B units on the E6 for 3-rail are unpowered? Seems like lately all B units have been powered (E8, F7, PA) so why go back to unpowered? Is it a cost issue or mechanical issue?

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Exactly.... especially for Santa Fe engines. An unpowered B unit is really pointless. (the 3R E8 Bs were unpowered)

Santa Fe had 7 E6's total. 4 A's and 3 B's. 12LA, 13LA, 14L, and 15LA were purchased and normally  ran as an AB set, with #14 bought as an A only. So one powered A unit with a dummy B unit is NOT going to pull a lot of train. Granted the trains they pulled werenormally  not large trains, 1 powered A unit is just not enough even with traction tires. Make the B units powered. But what do I know!

As I look at the price list, it seems to me that the B units are available both powered ($699.95 in the right column) and unpowered (in parentheses at $479.95 that are only available in 3R) so everybody that's a 3-railer should be happy.  In other words, 3-railers and only 3-railers have the option of choosing powered or dummy B units - dummy units are not being offered to 2-railers.   Am I missing something or am I misreading the order form?

Count me in as one person that would like to purchase more then one road name (ATSF, IC and C&NW) but I have to ask, what do any of you plan to pull with these new engines (excluding the Santa Fe modelers).

It would be much easier to get behind a passenger centric engine project if there were some indication that a matching set of passenger cars was to follow, not necessarily at the same time, just sometime down the road.

I did speak with Scott at length about this BTW and he said it is very difficult for the smaller, less popular road names, and that I do understand.

However, I am in no position to keep these as shelf queens, so I need a passenger set to move forward with a commitment.

 

Charlie

I was in for some Santa Fe's but the dummy b unit kills it and takes me out. I was also contemplating the CNW units but have nothing to pull with them so I'm out on those too. I'm done buying trains all Willy nilly, I need focus and a goal these days to pull the trigger and no train fir the C&NW set is a deal breaker and dummy B-units is also a deal breaker. 

Matt Makens posted:

.....I was also contemplating the CNW units but have nothing to pull with them so I'm out on those too. I'm done buying trains all Willy nilly, I need focus and a goal these days to pull the trigger and no train fir the C&NW set is a deal breaker.....

 I think that's half the reason CNW passenger engine offerings get cancelled so frequently......Unless Scott surprises again with an accurate passenger set I hope these get made otherwise I'll have a K-Line passenger set with no locomotive!

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