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Now is the time to create the US Space Force Train Set. A Smoking Cryogenic Boxcar, Missile cars for asteroid defense. This could be much better than an Area 51 set.

Scott Smith

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Heh. 

Lew

 

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Well Lionel was ahead of the US government.  In 1960s Lionel made over a dozen Space, rocket and missile cars and engines with the Lionel name all over them. 

You can drop their value and rename them for the new United States Space Force, Department of the Air Force if you want to "up date" them.  I am sure Lionel and others will come out with re-labeled cars and engines for the new Space Force.

Charlie

 

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In my opinion, the Marines #45 missile launch car from the TMCC set is the most powerful attack vehicle in the whole Lionel arsenal.  Four missiles able to be launched rapid fire fairly accurately with a Cab1.   After nailing the cat a few times, all it took was the announcement, ‘Scanning for targets!’ , and zoom!, it was up the stairs, and never came on the layout again.  Very effective weapon.  Deadly on exploding boxcars as well.  No animals were harmed.  Just had the crap scared out of it.  A couple broad side hits from the mean green Marine machine #45 could flat out change a feline’s attitude as to what an opportune resting spot is I guess.  I was just glad they were on my side.

Cheers,       W1

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Marx did a pretty good job 60+ years ago with its many space sets/train sets, like the Cape Canaveral crossovers.

MPC had its L.A.S.E.R. set.

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I do not plan on buying that, because they are trying to get out of even using AMTRAK trains by hiring former Airline Executives with their drastic business downturn plan that is even worse than "Precision Scheduled Railroading".

Andrew

falconservice posted:

I do not plan on buying that, because they are trying to get out of even using AMTRAK trains by hiring former Airline Executives with their drastic business downturn plan that is even worse than "Precision Scheduled Railroading".

Andrew

Who what where? I’m missing something. 

Marty R posted:
falconservice posted:

I do not plan on buying that.......

Who what where? I’m missing something. 

Same here

Ron

 

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Maybe the helium car could make it up to space?? 

What is the gross weight difference between an empty helium car and a full helium car?

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I'd like to see either MTH or Lionel create a flatcar consist carrying a load of "United Planets C57-D" cruisers.  For reference, see the the movie "Forbidden Planet".  😎😎

C-57D  Pilot

Someone should be able to offer a Space Force boxcar within 6 months, or so. 

A Space Force themed set might take at least a year, or two.

Calling on Menards to rise to the occasion for a boxcar or flatcar with vehicle or space related object.

Tom Tee posted:

Maybe the helium car could make it up to space?? 

What is the gross weight difference between an empty helium car and a full helium car?

Believe it or not, there was a debate about it years ago in the NMRA Bulletin.  I don't recall the details, but yes, a helium transport car weighs more loaded than empty.  When helium is compressed, it loses its buoyancy.

After all, helium (or hydrogen) isn't upsidaisium.

Rusty

Plagiarism's probably a bit strong.

Almost every emblem/patch for such things will be round (with text around the perimeter), so the circular part is not unique by any means.

The globe does not exist on the Star Trek one.

It's a triangular shape, no hole with a pattern in the middle, etc.

Almost any space mission patch or emblem/logo is going to have the arc representing something moving, so that's not unique either.  Ditto for the stars, which while present, it's not like they are identical in design or pattern.

But back to topic, yes, hopefully it starts making it's way in with the other services when offered on boxcars, etc.

-Dave

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Pretty sure you'd need a LOT of helium to lift a tank or train car.  The tank at the balloon store doesn't float up off the ground without being bolted to the floor either.

-Dave

redjimmy1955 posted:

As C.Sam noted...not the most original idea for a Space Force Emblem...plagiarism at its finest...pretty sad!  Oh my!

Image result for air force space commandI pulled this off Wikipedia. Air Force Space Command goes back a few decades. Of course Star Trek also used a stylized arrow/rocket ship kinda emblem. It's not always sinister We will do well to remember that.

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Dave45681 posted:

Plagiarism's probably a bit strong.

Almost every emblem/patch for such things will be round (with text around the perimeter), so the circular part is not unique by any means.

The globe does not exist on the Star Trek one.

It's a triangular shape, no hole with a pattern in the middle, etc.

Almost any space mission patch or is going to have the arc representing something moving, so that's not unique either.  Ditto for the stars, which while present, it's not like they are identical in design or pattern.

But back to topic, yes, hopefully it starts making it's way in with the other services when offered on boxcars, etc.

-Dave

'The Globe' may not exist at all....  According to the Bible, the earth may truly be a disc with the Firmament creating a closed system! Investigate FE   :-)

The delta symbol, the central design element in the seal, was first used as early as 1942 by the U.S. Army Air Forces; and was used in early Air Force space organization emblems dating back to 1961.

USAF_9th_Space_Division_Crest

USAF 9th Space Division Crest.

Star Trek premiered in 1966.

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M. Mitchell Marmel posted:

Lionel already has it covered! 

http://www.lionel.com/products...per-flatcar-6-84799/

Mitch 

Where's the Kaboom?  There's supposed to be an earth-shattering KABOOM!

 

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c.sam posted:

Wonder where they got the inspiration for the Space Force insignia?

Starfleet_command_emblem

 

 

Star trek isn't the only source of this plagiarism!! Lego has been using this symbol since the 80's.  And just so that this on topic I have built both space ships and trains from Lego, including trains that run on 3 rail track.  I can't wait until we see new space force patrol vehicles to add to our layouts!

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Since the whole idea for this is in someone's head, we can be as imaginary as we like.

There are no actual weapons and no actual adversaries ....so as everyone knows anything goes. . . .

AlanHN

Let's see.....  a Fireball XL5 locomotive with the start up sound -- remember the involved launch sequence ? Followed by Thunderbird vehicle box cars,  Supercar on a flat car, and finally a Roger Ramjet gondola filled with Proton Pills.

And for the Duck Dodgers car, a load of Eludium Phosdex (the Shaving Cream atom) from Planet X. Get there before Marvin does!

One of the Warner Bros. best cartoons.

Space Force, huh? Well, there are plenty of space cadets floating around Washington - from both parties.

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LarryB posted:

Let's see.....  a Fireball XL5 locomotive with the start up sound -- remember the involved launch sequence ? Followed by Thunderbird vehicle box cars,  Supercar on a flat car, and finally a Roger Ramjet gondola filled with Proton Pills.

From 2015: 

Thunderbirds Are O!

I'm just sayin'. 

Mitch 

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I hope Elon Musk decides to get into the model train business. He'll give us something different for sure.  

Ed

 

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ToledoEd posted:

I hope Elon Musk decides to get into the model train business. He'll give us something different for sure.  

I’m hoping that Elon Musk builds an ICE powered O-gauge locomotive.

Well, the space force logo does share some similarities with the Star Fleet logo and Lionel just came out with a commemorative Star Trek starter set...

H1000

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c.sam posted:

Wonder where they got the inspiration for the Space Force insignia?

Starfleet_command_emblem

 

 

And how much reality is actually behind either of these insignia? Just askin'. I mean, warp drive and putting a probe by Pluto would seem to be on different, ah, planets.

The design similarities above are hilarious, though.

I read that George Takei complained about plagiarism with the logo.  Oh well.

Maybe Lionel will do a meaningful update of the Phantom (like pulling power) add six or so new space related tech cars with a couple of add on cars.  It looks like a $1500 price tag to me.

Everybody should have one.  It would look great zipping around the Christmas tree.

 

Norm

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