NYO&W "Mountaineer" #405 project

Can’t wait to see this develop!  Styrene can also be used to make convincing skirting. You can use a few dabs of silicone glue to attach (brass or styrene) skirting if you ever want to remove it. Magnets probably won’t work on brass. JohnA

@John A posted:

Can’t wait to see this develop!  Styrene can also be used to make convincing skirting. You can use a few dabs of silicone glue to attach (brass or styrene) skirting if you ever want to remove it. Magnets probably won’t work on brass. JohnA

Usually styrene is my main material I use in projects, but I wanted to try brass for this one. Two recent Lionel sets (Lehigh Valley Asa Packer and Lionel Santa Fe Valley flyer) have similar set ups with skirting. Magnets will be placed on the skirting. But styrene will be my backup if it doesn't work 😄

I’ll definitely be following this project. Really a sharp looking engine. As far as magnets go. I recently re did a brass milk car. Removed the factory lettering and added steel placards. This was a common practice seeing these cars were leased. I bought a very thin steel sheet. .005 thickness that can easily be cut with a good pair of scissors. Everything is easily removed if I decide to change it out. 4 magnets inside the car easily hold them on.

Hi Blake, This sounds like a very cool project. I too am a huge fan of the O&W having visited most of the abandoned main lines at one time since 1980. Good Luck on it and be sure to keep us posted.  My layout is based on a portion of the O&W and parts of the New Haven. Here is a picture of an NW-2 General Models Switcher I just had repainted in O&W livery.  Bill

Is brass magnetic?

@BenLMaggi posted:

Is brass magnetic?

No, not at all.

@Hot Water posted:

No, not at all.

It is not, I should have added magnets will be added on the insides of the skirting, these will attach to magnets placed on the locomotive

Paint stripped on tender shell and cab, I'll clean it up a little more before painting (which I'm currently waiting for in the mail) going to airbrush all the maroon.

Unless just for the shelf, if this model is run much at all, that brass shrouding may vibrate down/off?  and maybe self destruct and derail loco, and or damage rolling srock and scenery.

@colorado hirailer posted:

Unless just for the shelf, if this model is run much at all, that brass shrouding may vibrate down/off?  and maybe self destruct and derail loco, and or damage rolling srock and scenery.

I'm intending to run it like any normal locomotive. The mini magnets I have are pretty strong, Lionel used a similar set up on their Asa Packer set and Valley Flyer set (talked to someone who owns one) so it shouldn't be an issue. If anything I can switch to styrene or thin sheet metal. I'll find out once I start work on the skirting.

What did you strip the paint with?

Good luck with your custom project!  I am following your progress.  We came very close to doing a custom run brass locomotive with Weaver Models once upon a time.  We did produce 2-8-0 consolidations with Weaver Models.  Currently, we have custom run NYO&W double sheathed boxcars and F3 A-B sets coming in from MTH Electric Trains.  We will be offering custom run O&W FT diesel locomotives, hopefully within the year.

@JR Junction Train & Hobby posted:

Good luck with your custom project!  I am following your progress.  We came very close to doing a custom run brass locomotive with Weaver Models once upon a time.  We did produce 2-8-0 consolidations with Weaver Models.  Currently, we have custom run NYO&W double sheathed boxcars and F3 A-B sets coming in from MTH Electric Trains.  We will be offering custom run O&W FT diesel locomotives, hopefully within the year.

Speaking of the NYO&W, Phil just shared a picture with the club of a formula for O&W gray as 50/50 "Accupaint" NYC light gray and charcoal, which matched the 1945 DuPont Toledo Labs paint chip.

Interesting build; can't wait to see it!

- Mario

I was in Syracuse today and stopped by the JR Junction Hobby Shop. The store has a very nice stock of O guage equipment. I purchased the new Woodland Scenics Hobby Shop Model along with a set of MTH electric gates and some brown roof paint and grease. There is a great deal of scenic materials along with some other hard to find items like a good selection of styrene supplies, wood materials for scratch building and a good selection of paint and those kinds of items. The owner was once an employee of K&K Trains in Utica and would be knowledgeable in helping you find special request items. On my next trip out there, I will be again stopping. He told me he has special order O&W box cars coming in along with special order O&W F3's. I would not hesitate to call if you need something and ask him to help you. Bill

@NHVRYGray posted:

What did you strip the paint with?

Regular gel paint stripper from Ace Hardware, with help with a light nylon brush.

while paint prep work is underway, here are the sheets of brass that will be used for the skirting along the running boards. The sheets need to be trimmed on top slightly and the fronts will be shaved down to match the prototype. As stated previously these will have very small but strong magnets glued on, and will match up with magnets along side the running boards.

@JR Junction Train & Hobby posted:

Good luck with your custom project!  I am following your progress.  We came very close to doing a custom run brass locomotive with Weaver Models once upon a time.  We did produce 2-8-0 consolidations with Weaver Models.  Currently, we have custom run NYO&W double sheathed boxcars and F3 A-B sets coming in from MTH Electric Trains.  We will be offering custom run O&W FT diesel locomotives, hopefully within the year.

Thanks! I remember hearing the story on a proposed brass Y-1 locomotive, younger me was excited for it. I think I ordered my Lionel NYO&W F units with the "robins egg blue" paint from your shop a few years back (I'm going to have the shells weathered to tone down the color) definitely ordering one of those boxcars!

Worked has started on the smokebox, headlight relocated, smokebox painted and rough  cardstock templates were made up of the front and skirting. A different headlight was chosen so the bulb can be installed from underneath. Void left by old headlight was filed in with epoxy filler. This will be sanded smooth when dried.

Headlight installation complete, epoxy putty sanded smooth, and smokebox door repainted. Skirting was made from 1/2 inch brass strips, ends rounded off with Dremel. Cab and cylinders repainted partially black, unpainted areas will be painted maroon. This project is coming along nicely.