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Had a nice chat and cup of coffee with Eddy this morning.  He's a huge CNW fan.  What a great guy. Super knowledgeable and has a passion for it.  He was also very gracious and helped with a few contacts for help.

We met so I could pick up a huge order of AMAZING custom passenger car bodies from his 401 Models line.

4 Coaches

1 Coach w/stewardess room

2 Parlor cars

1 Diner

1 #7500 Baggage Tap (Twin Cities 400)

1 #7502 Baggage Tap (Minnesota 400)

So cool. So cool. Pics of two of them below....

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The bodies are aluminum but the roofs start as black plastic one piece parts and in certain light the green paint looks a lot darker than the side band.

More pics to come as I progress.

I have a lot of work ahead of me on each of them.  Trucks, underbody, glazing, lighting, diaphragms, couplers. Not to mention, full detailed interiors.

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He still troubleshooting the Observation car.  He has his prototype, but the unique and complicated roof end of the CNW prototype creates a significant reproduction challenge for manufacture.  Hope he figures it out soon.  I joked that after he takes care of the Rockford O Scalers he better be ready for my order next! 😁.

He also brought along his 3rd Rail CNW E6.  Just to show me.  Man! I'm cursing myself for cancelling my order.  Awesome model. I just had too much uncertainty at the time. ☹️

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@WITZ 41 posted:

Had a nice chat and cup of coffee with Eddy this morning.  He's a huge CNW fan.  What a great guy. Super knowledgeable and has a passion for it.  He was also very gracious and helped with a few contacts for help.

We met so I could pick up a huge order of AMAZING custom passenger car bodies from his 401 Models line.

4 Coaches

1 Coach w/stewardess room

2 Parlor cars

1 Diner

1 #7500 Baggage Tap (Twin Cities 400)

1 #7502 Baggage Tap (Minnesota 400)

So cool. So cool. Pics of two of them below....

IMG_20210627_182639168~2

IMG_20210627_181705496_HDR~2

IMG_20210627_181436191_HDR~2

More pics to come as I progress.

I have a lot of work ahead of me on each of them.  Trucks, underbody, glazing, lighting, diaphragms, couplers. Not to mention, full detailed interiors.

IMG_20210626_160959

He still troubleshooting the Observation car.  He has his prototype, but the unique and complicated roof end of the CNW prototype creates a significant reproduction challenge for manufacture.  Hope he figures it out soon.  I joked that after he takes care of the Rockford O Scalers he better be ready for my order next! 😁.

He also brought along his 3rd Rail CNW E6.  Just to show me.  Man! I'm cursing myself for cancelling my order.  Awesome model. I just had too much uncertainty at the time. ☹️

Looks great! I guess I should probably order some kits now, even though I don't have time to build them anytime soon. Kind of like how you feel about not having the CNW E6. Not sure how much longer someone like Eddy will be in business and fairly certain there won't be anyone to take his place when he decides to pack up shop.

Again, thanks for sharing.

Charlie

@GG1 4877 posted:

Those look amazing!  Scott will be running the E6 again.  If you have any interest at all, let him know you are interested.  We talked today and he would like to definitely do a 2nd run of those.  A few new road names will be in the mix as well, but not applicable to this specific thread.

Thanks Jonathan. I'm so pumped to have them Eddy Wichman did a fantastic job on the bodies for me.



I'll be emailing Scott shortly. Definitely want an AA pair numbered 5005A and 5005B

(most already know the CNW numbered many of it's A units with "B" for pairing)

A E3 pair (5001A 5001B) would be cool but I am definitely down for the 2nd run of E6s!

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Is the LIONEL CNW SD45 loco painted in "Safety Yellow" from the 1980's

Does it match the Atlas O Trainman CNW "Safety Yellow" bay window caboose?

Andrew

Andrew:

I get confused between "Safety Yellow" and "Zito Yellow". Zito is the one you can see from orbit because it's so bright, but it faded to a white-yellow in about 18 months, but did they refer to that as Safety Yellow, or was it the school bus chrome yellow?

@PRRMP54 posted:

One of my favorite Weaver center-flows Is the C&NW version, I have about ten or so:

Center-Flow Weaver SOO and CORN PRODUCTS

I also have a couple of the three-bay rib-sides.

I have a batch of them. It looks like the CNW 4-bay ACF's were done by Weaver and Petersen in different numbers and slight logo variants, in yellow and green. When one pops up on eBay, I have to check to make sure I don't buy a duplicate. I've switched most of them over to Intermountain scale wheels and Kadee couplers. I also have a few of the 2-bay PS2's and PS4427 high-side 3-bay hoppers.

Atlas did two pairs of PS4427 low-sides for Petersen Supply in yellow and green. They also did a four-car release of Trainman PS-4750's in a one-off green -- a color which supposedly was done for a company, then cancelled, then picked up by CNW. Lionel released a nicely-done 3-pack in yellow, plus a single unit in green. All are on my list to be 2-railed.

I did a YouTube with 20 ATSF PS4427's pulled by a pair of C40-8W's. I realized I've collected so many CNW grain hoppers I can do the same thing, but never got around to taking everything down to the club to shoot it.

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By the way, if you want an early intermodal, Lionel released a series of PS-4 flat cars with trailers that are fantastic. Hard to come by now as they sold out quickly. I've also planned to 2-rail these along with the Weaver 50-footers with the 35-foot single trailer.

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I've seen "Original Yellow" referred to as "Stagecoach Yellow".  It is such a great color; warm, tasteful and classy.  I'm a UP fan but a clean CNW paint job trumps Armour Yellow every time.  The last such comparison I made was 10 years ago, in the Powder River Basin, when I spotted one of the last class of CNW power mixed in with a bunch of UP power.

There's something particularly stirring about seeing your "home road" power, pulling hard for home, regardless of the passage of decades and intervening loyalties.  *sigh*

Mr. Zito's rubber stamped signature is on my ancient Road Brakeman qualification cards but I never met the man.  I'm sure he was an effective manager but his choice of colors leaves much to be desired, as far as I'm concerned.  "Zito Yellow" is pale by comparison.

Great C&NW shots!  Growing up in Glen Ellyn, IL in the 1970's and 1980's, I can remember the many C&NW freights and commuters running by.. Usually, the freights would run the GPs and SD40 locomotives and the E's and F's would pull the commuter runs.  Although every once in awhile, there would be an E, F or even an FB runnning on a freight train which was always pretty neat. 

In a post dated 9/20/21, WITZ41 mentioned that a Williams 4-6-4 (in C&NW lettering) might be a good candidate to convert to a C&NW Pacific, but then included a picture of a Milwaukee Road Pacific below that comment.  Just wondering if the comment meant MR Pacific, or if the wrong picture was attached?

Chuck

@PRR1950 posted:

  Just wondering if the comment meant MR Pacific, or if the wrong picture was attached?

Chuck

Chuck, I can see where it might be confusing, but the image of #601 is a C&NW Pacific, lettered for the Omaha Road or "C. ST.P, M. & O.RY" = Chicago, St. Paul, Minneapolis and Omaha. The C&NW bought/controlled/absorbed the Omaha Road in 1882 and kept it a separate corporation until 1958.

The Pacific of the Omaha Road > C&NW were some very impressive engines that I would like to see modeled as well, but I suspect the interest would be too small for anyone (Lionel or 3rd Rail) to make a credible version, so Witz was just saying that the Williams Hudson, might make a good starting point for a C&NW Pacific stand in.

Hope that helps.

Charlie

@AGHRMatt posted:

Hi John.

The green CNW streamlined sets show up on eBay quite frequently. There's a set up now. The downside is that they oftentimes want too much for them.

My problem exactly, I have seen them, but they're about twice what I'm willing to pay!  Right now the MTH stuff is selling at a premium, so it's not a good time to be shopping for MTH stuff.  I'm simply not willing to pay double the MSRP for a twenty year old set of used passenger cars, that ain't happening!

@Charlie posted:

Chuck, I can see where it might be confusing, but the image of #601 is a C&NW Pacific, lettered for the Omaha Road or "C. ST.P, M. & O.RY" = Chicago, St. Paul, Minneapolis and Omaha. The C&NW bought/controlled/absorbed the Omaha Road in 1882 and kept it a separate corporation until 1958.

The Pacific of the Omaha Road > C&NW were some very impressive engines that I would like to see modeled as well, but I suspect the interest would be too small for anyone (Lionel or 3rd Rail) to make a credible version, so Witz was just saying that the Williams Hudson, might make a good starting point for a C&NW Pacific stand in.

Hope that helps.

Charlie

@PRR1950 posted:

In a post dated 9/20/21, WITZ41 mentioned that a Williams 4-6-4 (in C&NW lettering) might be a good candidate to convert to a C&NW Pacific, but then included a picture of a Milwaukee Road Pacific below that comment.  Just wondering if the comment meant MR Pacific, or if the wrong picture was attached?

Chuck

Hi Chuck.

Charlie's good explanation aside, here's a wider photo for context.(Clearly not mine) from Lloyd A Keyser's wonderful book

'Chicago and North Western In Color, Volume 1: 1941-1953'

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Will

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