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Hello ALL --

 

Here are some images of 2-RAIL IRT R-15 Subway Car that I scratchbuilt,  with full scale interior seating, M/M cabs, complete ceiling fans & details, painted in the MTA colors.  It has full underbody and scale SMEE trucks.  Seen on my EL Layout.  This car was built about 10 years or so ago.  Vern Gillman is the only other modeler to have built an O-Scale 2-rail R-15 subway car like this, his is painted in the original 1950factory applied  maroon and tan stripe colors.

 

Regards - Joe F

 

 

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Hello Zach  (and JONNY)

 

The R-15 was one of the IRT Division cars I had in the lineup for production with my working with MTH on all the NY Subway sets since 1999.  It was in the development plans before  the R-142  project, which was bumped forward and produced instead.  It would have likely been the following production car, along "maybe" with an R-10....had things worked out better with the US Economy, heh. 

 

However, as the economy was slowing and tanking very badly since 2009 and hobby sales nationwide were in an ever increasing large slump, and massive US unemployment, with many hobby stores slowly closing  - the R-15 project, which would have required ALL NEW expensive die tooling for the body sides and roof, (as the car uses an already existing R-17 end face)....was "shelved on hold".

 

And since then, as we well know,  MTH has done no new tooling for "new" subway sets, and neither has LIONEL for that matter.   Other than re-issues of a small few of the long existing long ago produced NY subway set products, or repaints of same. 

 

Hopefully in the future....who knows.

 

---- JONNY ---- I have a few interior photos of some of my EL and subway car models -- let me look for them and post them later after I locate them in my thousands of photos.

 

Regards - Joe F 

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Joseph:

 

If you come to the NJ Highrailers on the 17th, Mike Wolf who has been to the last three O Gauge Forum Meets might be there again. At the last meet he told me that they plan to do the IRT Deck Roof cars. As we stood by the layout I pointed out the BMT Tri-plex cars on the layout that a member had hand built and said to Mike "this is what I would suggest your company do". He was non-committal as to an answer. At least he knows the subject. Lionel has seem to have given up on any new subway car models.

Hello Jonny

 

I hestitate to show these photos because trying to get clear sharp interior photos even in O-Scale is a depth of field proportioning, lighting and focusing, nightmare. Shooting thru exteriors of side windows and end storm door windows is also a crap shoot of trial and error.

 

These are the best that I have so far - shot some years ago - for the time being.

Pardon the less than customary quality usually seen in my layout photos !  The interiors look much better when viewed with your own eyes, heh, which compensate for many variables which the camera cannot do.

 

Note: place cursor over each THUMBNAIL photo at message bottom to see photo caption info.

 

Regards - Joe F

 

 

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  • 024_24 - IRT 1965 R-33 Worlds Fair cars: IRT 1965 R-33 Worlds Fair cars
  • 023_23 - View from IRT R-Car to IRT R-17 Car: View from IRT R-Car to IRT R-17 Car
  • 053_53 - Interior - my IRT 1939 WF Steinway Low V Car: Interior - my IRT 1939 WF Steinway Low V Car
  • 078_78 - Blind end interior of IRT 1939 Steinway WF Low-V: Blind end interior of IRT 1939 Steinway WF Low-V
  • 079_79 - Cab end interior of IRT 1939 Steinway WF Low-V: Cab end interior of IRT 1939 Steinway WF Low-V
  • 006_6A _ View inside IRT EL MUDC Car to MUDC cars ahead: View inside IRT EL MUDC Car to MUDC cars ahead
  • 009_9A - View inside IRT EL MUDC Car to MUDC cars ahead: View inside IRT EL MUDC Car to MUDC cars ahead
  • 011_11A _ view from IRT EL car to buildings along the EL: view from IRT EL car to buildings along the EL
  • 016_16A - View from EL Car to passing IRT EL MUDC Local: View from EL Car to passing IRT EL MUDC Local
  • 017_17A -  View from EL Car to rear car of IRT EL MUDC Local: View from EL Car to rear car of IRT EL MUDC Local
  • 091_91 - Center interior seating of IRT (or BMT) EL Car: Center interior seating of IRT (or BMT) EL Car
  • 025_25 - Passenger at center interior seating of IRT (or BMT) EL Car: Passenger at center interior seating of IRT (or BMT) EL Car
  • 129_129-Sept,2008 - View from EL car to passing IRT Q-Type EL Local: View from EL car to passing IRT Q-Type EL Local
  • 132_132 - View from EL car to passing IRT Q-Type EL Local: View from EL car to passing IRT Q-Type EL Local
  • 175_175 - Interior view - IRT MUDC EL Motor Car: Interior view - IRT MUDC EL Motor Car
  • 044_44-Oct.2008 - Interior view - IRT MUDC EL Motor Car: Interior view - IRT MUDC EL Motor Car
  • 090_90 - View from Platform of Gate car to interiuor end of car: View from Platform of Gate car to interiuor end of car
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Originally Posted by Joseph Frank:

Hello Zach  (and JONNY)

 

The R-15 was one of the IRT Division cars I had in the lineup for production with my working with MTH on all the NY Subway sets since 1999.  It was in the development plans before  the R-142  project, which was bumped forward and produced instead.  It would have likely been the following production car, along "maybe" with an R-10....had things worked out better with the US Economy, heh. 

 

However, as the economy was slowing and tanking very badly since 2009 and hobby sales nationwide were in an ever increasing large slump, and massive US unemployment, with many hobby stores slowly closing  - the R-15 project, which would have required ALL NEW expensive die tooling for the body sides and roof, (as the car uses an already existing R-17 end face)....was "shelved on hold".

 

And since then, as we well know,  MTH has done no new tooling for "new" subway sets, and neither has LIONEL for that matter.   Other than re-issues of a small few of the long existing long ago produced NY subway set products, or repaints of same. 

 

Hopefully in the future....who knows.

 

---- JONNY ---- I have a few interior photos of some of my EL and subway car models -- let me look for them and post them later after I locate them in my thousands of photos.

 

Regards - Joe F 

Interesting, Have they thought of making any more O scale NTT's? R143? R160? R110? What about post 1990s models of the R32s or R40s? It should be easy considered the model was already made before

Hello nycboy

 

Well, those new - as you call them NTT (new Technology trains) sets would be nice - MTH already did the R-142 (IRT Division) cars - anything newer would require all new tooling and dies - and yes, they could do re-runs of the earlier produced rolling stock (32's, 40's) but that is a matter of economy - volume sales needed to underwrite

re-run productions VS; production quantities needed with paid sales to pay for production and produce any final profits on said runs.

 

As you know, MTH has gone into HO SCALE for initial new NY subway set productions in that scale. Future HO Scale subway products depend upon the sales strength of these initially produced HO NYC subway sets, obviously.

 

regards - Joe F

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