I have to reload my entire roster into the Legacy command set. Some of my engines have the orange modules and some don’t. If I have the module from an older similar engine, is there any reason why I can’t use it to load the data for a newer engine and then simply rename it?  For example, I have the module for the earlier release of the N&W GP35.  Can I use it to load the data of the new GP35 and then rename it for the new road name/number?  Given I have to do my entire roster, this would save quite a bit of manual data entry. 

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Sure, there's nothing sacred about the info in the orange module.

One wonders why you didn't use the LSU application to backup your base periodically, that would save you a ton of time.

You can also make a multi-engine black module with all the engine data loaded.  That way you can just scroll through them and load the data that pertains to the specific engine.

In fairness, your rules assume the value of the backed up data exceeds the cost of recreating it. Our family computers are Macs.  My work laptop does not have an antiquated 9-pin serial connector. So, even if I wanted to store train software and data on my work computer (which I don’t), I’d need a $30 cable that literally only has use for this one task. I suppose, I could buy a Windows-based family computer just to back up the data for my 20 Legacy engines, but that doesn’t seem overly sensible. So, the data has remained without back up with full knowledge that a crash would require some manual recovery (which has now happened). 

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Rider Sandman posted:

So, even if I wanted to store train software and data on my work computer (which I don’t), I’d need a $30 cable that literally only has use for this one task. I suppose, I could buy a Windows-based family computer just to back up the data for my 20 Legacy engines, but that doesn’t seem overly sensible. So, the data has remained without back up with full knowledge that a crash would require some manual recovery (which has now happened). 

You got the $30 cable with the Legacy system, did you lose it?  You can run a Windows emulator on your MAC as well.

The $30 cable is a USB adaptor for the supplied Y-cable. The supplied cable requires a PC with a 9-pin serial connector.  My laptops haven’t had such a connector in a few generations. My Macs don’t have it either. 

Unfortunately the PC/ Apple technology has outpaced our hobbies. I've run into the same problems with new laptops. All of the old connectors (serial, USB, etc), are gone. I just had to buy a VGA to HDMI adapter so my daughter could hook a second monitor up to her HP laptop.

Three Rails Are Better Than None 

A slick piece for extra monitors is the USB to DVI or USB to HDMI adapters.  I've used the Kensington USB to DVI cable for years.  Here's a couple of low priced converters, and the page where all the Kensington adapters are located.  HP also makes a USB to DVI and a USB to VGA adapter.

USB to HDMI Adapter,1080P, $16.47

QGeeM USB C to DVI Cable Adapter, $13.99

Kensington Video Cables & Adapters

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gunrunnerjohn posted:

OK, I only pay around $12 for that converter, but that's another story.

Makes sense. I suspected any of them would work, but only looked at the specific converter called out in the Lionel users manual. 

RSJB18 posted:

Unfortunately the PC/ Apple technology has outpaced our hobbies. I've run into the same problems with new laptops. All of the old connectors (serial, USB, etc), are gone. I just had to buy a VGA to HDMI adapter so my daughter could hook a second monitor up to her HP laptop.

It sure has. Not to get too far of the subject, but I think that is exactly why you’ll see the continued migration towards common technologies like Bluetooth and app-based tablets and smartphones. The Legacy system is chock full of custom and aging (or both) technologies that get more and more expensive to find on the commodity market at reasonable prices. 

Could you use Lionel’s wi-fi instead of a cable? A larger outlay, but you could also use it for all kinds of fun! I just saw a new Lionel wi-fi module on the bay for $105.

Retired is a misnomer.  Should be detired--less tired, more fun!

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