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Scott,

 

I believe there is a lot more interest in 2-rail O scale.  I think the problems are mostly economic.  The US dollar is being replaced by the Euro, as the new standard currency.

Yes, the US dollar gets you less in Asia, putting pressure on costs/profits.

 

Overland makes excellent models, worth waiting for, and I'm, in some way, supporting 2-rail O scale, by locking in a few at 2095.

 

I kind of wonder why Brian has taken such a negative approach to 1/48? His father is still very active in the 1/48 community and is one of the guys that really brought us some of the best models ever produced likely never to made again. Despite some learning curve issues in Korea his entire catalog of models is and still is some of the best made of certain prototypes to date in 1/48. ----> Not and Opinion

 

I am grateful for what Overland Models has imported for us; without them I would not have my SD7's, BL2's, U50C's, 120 Ton Brownhoist Cranes, FEF-1's, and so many more wonderful toys I so much enjoy and that brings good warm feelings to my life. 

 

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  I need to just not follow this model and let it play to the background and the itch to buy it will fade away.

It is beautiful and if Pelle was in O scale I am sure he would be buying a couple as when I see his articles in MR the engines look brass.

>I sure would like Atlas to fast track a 40-2. I think I could buy 5  for the price of one overland.

>I am sure our continual monthly borrowing of 85 Billion $ hurts our advantage to do business with China and others, especially if it takes 2 or 3 years to get a model.

 

Phill

Brian Marsh has always been in my dealings with him a negative person when it comes to models in HO or O scale. His choice of models to import has been off the wall for certain types. The Texas Special cars and diesels, even thought they
were beautiful and an improvement.
 
I have found him to be non receptive or willing to listen to people when they wanted to make a point.
 
I certainly hope he has a day job, as you can not survive on importing Brass models. But some do with other peoples money.
 
I hope he continues to bring in O scale, but I can not support him, as he does not do what I want. So I deal with the others.
 
Marty
 
 
Originally Posted by Erik C Lindgren:

I kind of wonder why Brian has taken such a negative approach to 1/48? His father is still very active in the 1/48 community and is one of the guys that really brought us some of the best models ever produced likely never to made again. Despite some learning curve issues in Korea his entire catalog of models is and still is some of the best made of certain prototypes to date in 1/48. ----> Not and Opinion

 

I am grateful for what Overland Models has imported for us; without them I would not have my SD7's, BL2's, U50C's, 120 Ton Brownhoist Cranes, FEF-1's, and so many more wonderful toys I so much enjoy and that brings good warm feelings to my life. 

 

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I doubt he has any personal enmity toward O Scale.  The market is too thin, and now it is getting picky.  I respect Eric's opinion, but I will not let an early Overland in my shop. There are now factory painted UP turbines out there held together with JB Weld.  I did not do it, and when asked to help sell one of these things I refused.

 

I believe all of these high end models are imported because the importer loves trains.  I am sure that is true of Brian and probably George Kohs.  Importing brass scale trains, especially in O Scale, is a good way to make a small fortune.  Of course you have to start with a very large fortune.

Gee wiz, should I get into personal attacks against certain people or organizations I find rather worthless because they don't do what I want the way I want when I want.  My list is rather long.

 

My dealings with Brian have been exactly the opposite.  He is the only one willing to do any hi grade modern mainline stuff which is the only stuff I am interested in.  Thankfully, for me, he is just not another me too doing big boys or old diesels for the umpteenth time.

 

He did the UP MP heritage unit because one person wanted one but the builder required three.  So he has two for sale.  He built very unique Australian SD70ACes and not everyone who reserved them is following through.  Folks who put money upfront for those should never expect to see their deposits again and he will probably have to sell those at a loss beyond what he did collect.

Originally Posted by superpower:

Railroad guy,

 

Those are very nice.Thanks for posting those. Were those for sale?

Yes, those are some of the unclaimed units. I hope he sells all of them there.  Then he might be more receptive to future ES44s and SD70ACes.  Then I can take the money I am scavenging about for to a couple of these towards reservations on those.

Thanks rdunniii,
 
I would reserve a few ES44's as I happen to like those more than the Aces. I keep drooling over this HO version. I have a few Overland SD75's and Dash 9's from late 98 and 06 runs and they are nice, but looks like the Aces shown have even more detail than prior runs. The BHP Billiton Ace looks like it's ready to go to war with the blue tanks on it, wow! Come on ES44.
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Originally Posted by rdunniii:
Originally Posted by superpower:

Railroad guy,

 

Those are very nice.Thanks for posting those. Were those for sale?

Yes, those are some of the unclaimed units. I hope he sells all of them there.  Then he might be more receptive to future ES44s and SD70ACes.  Then I can take the money I am scavenging about for to a couple of these towards reservations on those.

 

 

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Originally Posted by CN_Hogger:

I just mailed off my last check for my CN unit yesterday and can't wait to get it! I think the level of detail that these units have is worth the wait and I'm trying to fight the urge to buy one more. I'll be sure to post pictures when it arrives.

 

CN_Hogger

You probably won't have to worry.  There is only one CN left and it will probably be gone in the next day or so if you don't.

I was looking at an old O Scale News magazine with an Overland Models ad for the SD70Mac that lists the minimum radius as 35". I remember seeing another Overland ad for the SD90Mac that lists the minimum radius as 38". Overlands website also listed 40"minimum radius for their SD40,45T-2's that they canceled several years ago.

 

I have several Overland SD75m's and a SD70Mac that will run fine on Lionel O72(36"radius) fastrack without a problem. I can't run anything coupled to them shorter than a 50' boxcar because of the severe overhang of the loco's couplers. The driveline doesn't make bad clicking noises on O72, that would suggest that the u-joints are being pivoted to their maximum limits creating binding, but I think they're very close. I've also tested my loco's on 40,45 and 49.5 radius Atlas sectional track and while they run very well on any of those radiuses, I think a 49.5" radius would be my minimum if my space available prohibited me from larger radiuses.

 

I have a friend that runs his SD70Ace on Atlas 49.5" radius and it runs very well without any problems, and it looks decent on this size radius,and seems to be operating comfortably within it's design limitations, I prefer a 56" radius for loco's in this length range. I don't have and SD70Ace as of yet, but I'm tinkering on my layout with 58" and 60" radius to satisfy my personal aesthetic preferences.

 

I think that a safe minimum for loco's of this length range(C44-9,SD70Mac,75m)from a design perspective, that wouldn't cause premature wear and/or failure of driveline components, would be nothing less than a 45" radius.

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