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If you need to make room and sell some NYC items like a Hudson or passenger cars I guess I could help you. In all seriousness, nice set of passenger cars! Can't wait to see the loco.

Excuse me, Donnie… SELL some NYC items??? HERESY!!!

In reality, I really do need to make some room (you’d never believe how big and heavy the UP set is - it says on the shipping carton that it weighs 52 pounds). … however, whenever I finish helping my brother with his surgery recovery and get back home full time, I do plan to re-home two Century Club engines which happen to be NYC - but they are TMCC

I've always liked your layout and trains, Wood. But "Amtrak High tops?" 😳 Never heard that one before.

Oh, you must mean the Amtrak Superliners. 😉 😂

@Yellowstone Special

Thank you Vern..  I had a brain f**t this morning.  Yup Superliners!

In return let me tell you I have always liked your frequent posts. You help keep the ball rolling on the forum.

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@GG1 4877 posted:

You caught a rare bird indeed with your lens.  WM passenger service was limited during the best of times!

GG1 4877 - Indeed!  WM was definitely a fast freight line, however, I've always been intrigued with their passenger dept. as minuscule as it was.  WM's  small fleet of K1 and later K2 Pacific locos. were always kept spotless as was the WM " varnish " passenger cars.   The WM thru service from Baltimore - Chicago lasted only a short while, a blip on the radar of time, but I would have loved to have been at their Baltimore terminal,  on Hillen Street, with a round trip ticket to Chicago just for the experience of riding one of WM's first class passenger trains.  It would have been wonderful to experience how WM first class trains between Baltimore & Chicago stacked up with the Pennsy and B&O first class trains to Chicago.    

I have always found the WM K1 and K2 Pacifics to be among the nicest looking of that class of locomotive.  They just had a delicate look to them that was in stark contrast to the pure brutes PRR K4s were.  My father is a member of the WM historical society so I get hand-me-down "Blue Mountain Express" quarterlies.  Wonderful reference material.  My dad's family grew up watching the WM trackside during the end of steam.  I know I certainly missed out on something special.

Who did the WM interchange with on their route to Chicago?  Would it have been the same western partners used for the Alphabet Route?

@Apples55 posted:

Excuse me, Donnie… SELL some NYC items??? HERESY!!!

In reality, I really do need to make some room (you’d never believe how big and heavy the UP set is - it says on the shipping carton that it weighs 52 pounds). … however, whenever I finish helping my brother with his surgery recovery and get back home full time, I do plan to re-home two Century Club engines which happen to be NYC - but they are TMCC

Haha. You and your tmcc. I'm eyeballing a pw 726,but if it goes for too much I may decide on a century club 726 with passenger cars. Thoughts and prayers to your brother for a speedy recovery!

Haha. You and your tmcc. I'm eyeballing a pw 726,but if it goes for too much I may decide on a century club 726 with passenger cars. Thoughts and prayers to your brother for a speedy recovery!

Thanks for the wishes for my brother… knee revision surgery is a real bear. If you decide to go for the CC 726, drop me a line first. I have the CC Empire State Hudson (I replaced it with a Legacy version) which I am looking to eventually re-home.

@GG1 4877 posted:

I have always found the WM K1 and K2 Pacifics to be among the nicest looking of that class of locomotive.  They just had a delicate look to them that was in stark contrast to the pure brutes PRR K4s were.  My father is a member of the WM historical society so I get hand-me-down "Blue Mountain Express" quarterlies.  Wonderful reference material.  My dad's family grew up watching the WM trackside during the end of steam.  I know I certainly missed out on something special.

Who did the WM interchange with on their route to Chicago?  Would it have been the same western partners used for the Alphabet Route?

The WM interchanged with: Pittsburgh & Lake Erie (Connellsville - Youngstown), Erie (Youngstown - Cleveland), and New York Central (Cleveland - Chicago).

The Limiteds' running times were very competitive at 21-22 hours but only lasted until 1917.

Well, I certainly agree with Donnie Kennedy, I love the tinplate passenger cars.  Here is my set 2100W from 1946.  The set pulled by the 224 locomotive and the green tinplate cars.

224 and train

Here are some other passenger consists down through time.

Here is an American Flyer set from 1923-26

American Flyer type 16 loco and train [2)

A French Hornby set with a locomotive from 1949

French Hornby Train- close up front view [2)

American Flyer Champion Set from 1930

AF Champion Set - rear view

Hornby MO set from 1930

Hornby M0 - full train

Lionel 253 set from about 1925

Lionel 253 train from front

Lionel 256 set from 1924-1930

lionel 256 and cars

Well best wishes everyone.

Don

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@Rob Leese posted:

I spent some time in the Teton valley a few years ago, and saw the old R-O-W for this train. We lost something very nice when this line was abandoned.

Wow Rob, I agree. Awesome that you’re familiar with the Teton Valley and the old right-of-way for Union Pacific’s Yellowstone Special train. That route has quite a history dating all the way back to 1908. 😉

@kanawha posted:

3rd Rail's recent C&O Hudson and my custom built passenger train.



Ken

Beautiful train, Ken. I particularly love the way you mix/match types of cars in the consist. I seem to always want to have all passenger cars in a consist be the same type, even though I know it wasn’t always reality in real operations. I think you have achieved an amazing balance in your train.

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I am not sure this sleeping car config. matches its prototype, but I am using real names and numbers from METEOR Pullman pool cars.
If I ever have more time on my hands then I will open it up to do some interior work.
At least, put blinds up in the washrooms, eh?

P.S. this is one of those shadowlined Lionel cars. I know the Frisco had shadowlined heavyweight headend cars, yet not too sure about sleeping cars.

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Well, I certainly agree with Donnie Kennedy, I love the tinplate passenger cars.  Here is my set 2100W from 1946.  The set pulled by the 224 locomotive and the green tinplate cars.

224 and train

Here are some other passenger consists down through time.

Here is an American Flyer set from 1923-26

American Flyer type 16 loco and train [2)

A French Hornby set with a locomotive from 1949

French Hornby Train- close up front view [2)

American Flyer Champion Set from 1930

AF Champion Set - rear view

Hornby MO set from 1930

Hornby M0 - full train

Lionel 253 set from about 1925

Lionel 253 train from front

Lionel 256 set from 1924-1930

lionel 256 and cars

Well best wishes everyone.

Don

Amazing plethora and unique collection of tin plate Don.  Wow .

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