Pennsylvania R.R. Everyday

One of the more famous PRR secondary lines ran from Williamsport in Pennslyvania to Sodus Point on Lake Ontario.    It had a branch to Canandaigua and there was pullman service to Canandaigua I think well into the 1950s.    This was the Elmira branch and there is nice magazine size book about it written many years ago.    It ran up through Elmira with a shorts section of trackage rights on the Erie (I think) and on up along Seneca Lake through Watkins Glen.    

I don't think the steam turbine ever got  up there, but lots of I1 2-10-0s ran  up there with coal trains to the lake and also M1/M1a 4-8-s with general freight.    Also the various consolidations and smaller power.  

Some PRR photos - Mongehela Division Southwest Branch:

@Sitka posted:

How about seeing some Pennsylvania R.R. layout photos. I'm from upstate NY But have always enjoyed the history of P.R.R.

Me too, another fine thread

@prrjim posted:

Some PRR photos - Mongehela Division Southwest Branch:

Absolutely love this foot bridge. Where can I get one?

Lionel has done a similar one with dual stairways that has been listed in a number of previous catalogues. 

This one was a plastic kit by Heljan I think.    The kit has been offered by a few of the plastic building kit suppliers over the years.  

I narrowed this one to fit the 2 tracks and platforms.   The tracks are on 4 inch centers and the bridge as it came would have been off the platform on one side.

@Arnold D. Cribari posted:

Me too, another fine thread

Thank you, kind Sir, I'm sure lots of photos of the P.R.R. members have will get posted always a enjoy to see, along with layouts. God Speed

That green pedestrian bridge was done by Plasticville about 20 years ago.  They show up at train shows and on eBay from time to time.

Here are several photos with Pennsy flavor from around my Pennsylvania & Western layout.  Click on any photo to see a larger version.

Double-headed Weaver H10s 2-8-0's approaching the grade crossing in Franklin, PA.

MTH AS-616 with custom Trainphone equipment added, new engineer figure and corrected cab number.

A pair of 3rd Rail H6sb 2-8-0's are on the inbound steam service track in Annville, PA.

A 3rd Rail I1sa 2-10-0 is stopped at an intermediate signal between Lebanon and Summit, PA.  The signals on the left display an Approach indication, meaning that the Yard Limit Signals into Annville are set to Stop.  The signals are from Custom Signals.

This is the freight station and Railway Express office in Summit, PA.

A K-Line B6sb 0-6-0 works the yard in Annville, PA.

T1 4-4-4-4 #5511 (3rd Rail) drifts into the station at Lebanon, PA.  My layout is set in the 1949-1953 time period, and highway stop signs of that era were yellow with black lettering and sat on a short 4-foot post.  Quite different than today!

This is the interior of the Korber roundhouse in Annville.  It looks like a quiet day.

Not exactly a PRR layout, but some video from when my modular layout was permanently set up.  It's in storage now sadly.

What is more Pennsy than a K4?

Several PRR locomotives. There are more to come if this thread continues.

I guess since we are doing Pennsy I will add my little bit to the string.

@RJT posted:

I guess since we are doing Pennsy I will add my little bit to the string.

Nice string of Pennsy R.R. Keep them coming.

Lionel Legacy PRR #460 (2010 Lindbergh Special Version) next to scratch-built PRR Station Shelter. The shelter was built using actual PRR standard plans.

Q coming

My latest addition to my roster. A Pennsylvania U28C

A sampling of my GG1 fleet.  A repost, but such is life.  Missing 8 additional PRR ones in this photo. 

@GG1 4877 posted:

A sampling of my GG1 fleet.  A repost, but such is life.  Missing 8 additional PRR ones in this photo.

Fantastic, Jonathan... reminds me of the classic picture (I think it was an illustration) of GG1’s lined up in Philadelphia after bringing fans to the Army/Navy game. Gotta love all GG1’s (except possibly the horrific Conrail Bicentennial version - ugh!!!).

A repainted MPC Lionel Rectifier

How about some Pennsy artifacts.

A PRR ship bell.

A Pennsy sign from the stack of the PRR tug boat the Bloxom, along with the Bloxom station sign.

A PRR Pilot's cap.

A couple of PRR lanterns.

A PRR first aid kit.

And finally, a PRR poster for the season.

WW1 medal, have 2

A sampling of Sunset / 3rd Rail PRR locomotives:

I'm from Downstate New York...I think there has only been 1 picture of PRR shifters (switchers to others), so far.

Here are some of mine:

Thanks for posting your topic.

Tom

Here are photos of some of my HO PRR.  Most are vintage items.  I also have some interesting PRR N pieces including several PRR steam locomotives, GG1s, and passenger cars.  I should photograph the N, HO and O together for a fun comparision.

International Model Products 60' shorty PRR diner and observation.  This is late into their import period as the frames are bakelite.  I am guessing late 50's early 60's.

Unbuilt 1955ish Penn Line E6 Kit.  I have several of these in various states of completion.

Bowser K4 with super detail kit and extended tender that I built when I was 16.  As I have moved it over the last 35 years, I see it has lost a few details like the bell!

Blue Line P85 coaches circa 1960's.

Gilbert HO B6 with a smoke unit.  The motor sticks so far past the cab!

Heavily modified MDC E6 with Bowser Tender.  I added $100 worth of detail parts to this $30 locomotive around 1995.

My write up for my George Stock vintage GG1s.  George also produced steam locomotives based on PRR prototypes in HO and was also known for his skills in hand brush lettering for O scale and HO scale locomotives. 

A 1960's - 1970's PRR N6 brass cabin.

MTH P.R.R. Mallet pulling a load

Here are some shots of the Panhandle's roster:

Double-headed I1s Decapods haul an ore train across the Panhandle bridge.

East-bound Train 30, the Spirit of St. Louis, passes a Decapod west-bound on the bridge.

In a scene reminiscent of the Grif Teller painting, the Spirit of St. Louis gracefully arcs off the bridge towards the viewer.

Finally, we see an west-bound ore drag.  Please excuse the shakiness of the video (it's my first one).

George

G3750 sharp looking bridge like the ore cars.

@G3750 posted:

Here are some shots of the Panhandle's roster:

Double-headed I1s Decapods haul an ore train across the Panhandle bridge.

East-bound Train 30, the Spirit of St. Louis, passes a Decapod west-bound on the bridge.

In a scene reminiscent of the Grif Teller painting, the Spirit of St. Louis gracefully arcs off the bridge towards the viewer.

Finally, we see an west-bound ore drag.  Please excuse the shakiness of the video (it's my first one).

George

Here is a photo of Lionel’s T-1 #5511.

Here are my big steamers.

From trop: 3rd Rail N1, 3rd Rail Q1, 3rd rail S2, Lionel J1, Lionel T1, Lionel HH1 (Y3), MTH I1, MTH Q2, MTH M1.

Next up will be the medium steamers (L1, L2, H10, etc).

MTH, PRR K-4s meets, at Terryville on the Great Northeastern Railway, the Blue Comet en route to Atlantic City.

MTH, RailKing, PRR M1-a at the head end of a long coal train.

Preparing a Lionel, post war, PRR steam locomotive for its next assignment.

The "Federal", headed by an MTH, RailKing, PRR GG-1 reaches full speed, leaving the city of Christopolis on the Great Northeastern Railway headed for Washington, D. C.

Those are some sharp steamer guys, couple of MTH of mine coming around a bend

Penna. engines on our layout.

The lead GG1 is actually Black - A Williams dummy

Very nice K-Line aluminum Business car

Unusual scratch-built model by Jerry Keys

Weaver E unit (Left) and Williams Shark (R)    If not showing, see below

I've only got 1 Pennsy engine so far, a Lionchief Rectifier, but it's a fun little engine that can pull quite a bit. Here it is passing a Gulf, Mobil and Ohio commuter train with a short mixed freight.

Some recent additions to my roster.

Nothing like P.R.R. pounding the rails nice photos. All

@ncdave posted:

Some recent additions to my roster.

Williams Shark and Lionel postwar Repainted rounding the bend.

The Pennsy in Patsburg on the Free State Junction Railway.

I just got a Lionel Legacy Pennsylvania S1 in the Calendar Design scheme!

Some more PRR.  All brass 2 rail equipment for my future layout.   Granted the J1 never pulled P70s down the Jersey Shore but .....

Couple more of my P.R.R. K4 and Turbine leading the way of a PW U.P. Alco.

Well this is my first time on this thread and I find that even though I rode the PRR extensively (commuted to University on the NE corridor while it was still Pennsy) I have very little in the way of PRR equipment.  So here is the best I can do.  New addition for me, the Lionel #6454 PRR boxcar made between 1948-1952.

Great pictures everyone, thanks for posting

Don

Unfortunately everything is packed up waiting for my hoped for next and last migration but have some pics.

S1 on test stand.

The perfect compliment the Fleet of Modern.

A Lionel metal double door box Santa brought with my first Lionel train set Christmas of 1947 or maybe Santa brought with second set the Lionel "Electronic" set for Christmas 1948.

A scale S2 by Lionel made in violation of contract with Mike Wolf.

A MTH model of the uniquest of all GG1's.

A Train Master.

Shrouded K4.

A few cabin cars mixed with other roads cabooses.

Ron

Mallet pulling some hoppers

I need to take more still shots, but here’s a few. Gotta love some PRR Steam

eric nice looking engines!

@EricTrainMan posted:

I need to take more still shots, but here’s a few. Gotta love some PRR Steam

My Dads Lionel HO Switcher and crane car. Still runs

Here is a rewired auto merchandise car #3454 bought cheap, works great. The Baby Ruth crates came from Madison Hardware that I bought as a kid.

@Don McErlean posted:

Well this is my first time on this thread and I find that even though I rode the PRR extensively (commuted to University on the NE corridor while it was still Pennsy) I have very little in the way of PRR equipment.  So here is the best I can do.  New addition for me, the Lionel #6454 PRR boxcar made between 1948-1952.

Great pictures everyone, thanks for posting

Don

Nice looking boxcar here are some pictures for you on the shepherd and sheep, We think we got from scenic express about 8 yrs ago I did a search on scenic express and out of stock, item number PR65325 $28.99 maker Preiser, Good luck with your find, did you try ebay?

A few shots of the Lionel PRR Atlantic.

Sitka:  Thanks for the pictures and the compliment on my "lone" piece of PRR equipment.  I looked at my collection inventory and it turns out I do have 1 or 2 more cars but they are in storage (another word for lost ).  I will try your sources and e-bay.  Have looked on the trains portion of e=bay but not the "diecast figures" specific listings.  Oh well, I am off next week and will search then.  Thanks again for your response and information.

Don

@Don McErlean posted:

Well this is my first time on this thread and I find that even though I rode the PRR extensively (commuted to University on the NE corridor while it was still Pennsy) I have very little in the way of PRR equipment.  So here is the best I can do.  New addition for me, the Lionel #6454 PRR boxcar made between 1948-1952.

Great pictures everyone, thanks for posting

Don

Don,

  You are hereby admitted to our exciting club! Glad you are not anti-Pennsy if you rode it as a commuter!

Tom

PRR8976 - No I am certainly not "anti-Pennsy"  in fact just the opposite.  Its just that after collage, all my military / job assignments were in the mid and south west and hence out of Pennsy territory so I just didn't collect much PRR equipment.  I do have the Lionel # 675 locomotive that many have posted and that the general opinion seems to be its a K4 even though the wheel arrangement is not correct.  Anyway .... thank you for the welcome.  

I did find one other piece of rolling stock in my collection but I am afraid that it bears little resemblance to anything  real or scale.  It is however from as early as 1915 and was available until 1925.  It is the Lionel #800 box car.  So Pennsy modelers, here is what you would have had if you had been modeling in the first 1/2 of the 20th century

Best wishes and Merry Christmas / Happy Holidays

Don

@Don McErlean --Don, Thank you for your service and Merry Christmas!

Tom

A few PRR engines on my roster...

My Pennsy Fleet of locomotives.

GE 44 tonner by WbB.

A5  0-4-0 switcher ( by K line )

P5a modified by MTH

A5 close up ( K line )

Another shot of the P5a modified ( MTH )

PA 1 by WbB

Scale GG1 powered number 4876 ( rear ) and scale dummy number 4890 both by Williams.  

GM Aerotrain by MTH

Great looking engines, and anyone I missed,

@NJCJOE posted:

A few shots of the Lionel PRR Atlantic.

@Apples55 posted:

A few PRR engines on my roster...

@trumptrain posted:

My Pennsy Fleet of locomotives.

Here is a K-line searchlight car. Wish K-line didn't go under, not a bad product.

Some more PRR fun.

Custom built HO oddity.

Sold this one but enjoyed it while I had it.

OOPS!  Party fouls!!!

PRR equipment on the layout over the years.

@Randy Harrison poste\

PRR equipment on the layout over the years.

Nice looking engines everyone way to go.

Mark

Here is a Williams GG-1 and a Repainted PW Lionel K-4 Hard at work, along with a X2758 tin plate Auto car.

I swapped out the trucks with 2 rail ones on my Williams brass N5b cabin, but it is riding a little low.  I need to 1) reference my PRR Cabin book see what the correct height should be; 2) add a small spacer and; 3) get some Kadee couplers on it.

Some more PRR fun!

K-line Alco AA rounding the bend into the station.

A little more PRR from my collection:

Picked these up nd delivered today from the MPC Era. I saw my dad had them in a very old photo I found but have no idea what happened to them so in his memory I acquired another set.

Finly got some of my Cabin Cars unpack on on display been 7 years [packed up.

My MTH E8's ABBA and the Fleet of Modernism along with several front end cars. I am still looking for a set ofMTH Premier20-2637-1 PRR C Liners fro m 2004  Vol 1 Catalog.

As a Oh By The Way I heard from MTH and the P5a's are on the water and should arrive in mid January and the really big news is the P5a Replacement Shells are about 2 months behind them per "L" at MTH parts.

@RJT posted:

A little more PRR from my collection:

Picked these up nd delivered today from the MPC Era. I saw my dad had them in a very old photo I found but have no idea what happened to them so in his memory I acquired another set.

Finly got some of my Cabin Cars unpack on on display been 7 years [packed up.

My MTH E8's ABBA and the Fleet of Modernism along with several front end cars. I am still looking for a set ofMTH Premier20-2637-1 PRR C Liners fro m 2004  Vol 1 Catalog.

As a Oh By The Way I heard from MTH and the P5a's are on the water and should arrive in mid January and the really big news is the P5a Replacement Shells are about 2 months behind them per "L" at MTH parts.

Now that is a string of Cabin cars Very nice all!

Mark

@Sitka posted:

Now that is a string of Cabin cars Very nice all!

Mark

Mark Thank You, that is not all of them I still have some more to unpack and display and that is only the Pennsy ones I have at least 2 dozen of other Road names I really have a thing for Pennsy Cabin Cars and Cabooses .I think I have maybe 75 to a 100 of them total. Post War, MPC, Lionel and MTH.

Here are two photos from my  Pennsy passenger car pool.  The top photo is business car 120, an observation car.  This is a K line product.  

A custom interior resides inside this MTH Pennsy diner.   I purchased this car, in spring of 2019,  from a very nice and talented Canadian gentleman who created custom cars and sold them in the Orange Hall at York.  There are candles on every table inside the car with waiters in the isle and some passengers sitting at tables.  

Four Photos of some of my Pennsy equipment

@Gene H posted:

Four Photos of some of my Pennsy equipment

Gene, where did that "PRR" BL come from!?

Ron

@PRRronbh posted:

Gene, where did that "PRR" BL come from!?

Ron

Gene yes I would also like to know that answer as I would love to get one if still possible?

This is an oldie but a goody. ( Theres now a PRR signal bridge here as well as a chain link fence preventing ice house workers from wandering on the tracks.)

@PRRronbh posted:

Gene, where did that "PRR" BL come from!?

Ron

That's a MTH Proto 2 that I had custom painter about 12 years ago. I also have a Williams painted Tuscan for branch line passenger service lol.

@RJT posted:

Gene yes I would also like to know that answer as I would love to get one if still possible?

That's a MTH Proto 2 that I had custom painter about 12 years ago. I also have a Williams painted Tuscan for branch line passenger service lol.

Morning P.R.R. Fans, here is my 2332 GG-1 from 47-49, Looking at stripping and repainting in Brunswick Green and adding new gold stripes.  Also, my Williams P.R.R. Passenger cars, adding LED strips. And found a site on ebay that sells seats and other items for passenger cars and other items for cars. (SCALE CITY DESIGNS) not bad prices.

Tom

More from my PRR themed layout

Couple of K4's... You can never have too many K4's.... Scale Craft, Williams, Lionel and MTH

@ncdave posted:

More from my PRR themed layout

Dave I like that Livestock Car.

Here’s mine I bought late last Summer it’s the Lionel Pennsylvania Flyer with some added 027 car I personally like the Pennsylvania Piggy back Flatcar.

Lee,

Thats a LionScale stock car that I picked up at York last October for a very fair price.

A Pennsy J1a...

Q2 takeover:

@Norm Charbonneau posted:

Q2 takeover:

Norm;

Your layout is absolutely the most realistic I’ve ever seen. While I am not a fan of weathering equipment, your weathering seems just right - obviously hard working equipment without looking decrepit!!! And the Q2’s are beautiful engines. Now, I have to ask one dumb question... how did you film the parts from inside the shop??? Talk about realistic - amazing.

Thanks. Interior shots are from my iPhone 12.

@ncdave posted:

Lee,

Thats a LionScale stock car that I picked up at York last October for a very fair price.

Thanks Dave it’s very nice

Here is a short video of an MTH PS2 Pennsy VO 1000 diesel hauling a mixed consist, including Pennsy passenger cars, freight car, oil tanker car and caboose:

The Plasticville Pedestrian Bridge is a new addition. Arnold

@Arnold D. Cribari posted:

Here is a short video of an MTH PS2 Pennsy VO 1000 diesel hauling a mixed consist, including Pennsy passenger cars, freight car, oil tanker car and caboose:

The Plasticville Pedestrian Bridge is a new addition. Arnold

The one and only Tuscan Pennsy VO 1000 used at Sunnyside yards.

Ron

Well while no where near as neat as the beautiful engines that have been posted, the attached PRR ore car came from MPC in 1987.  While I have no idea how many or even if the PRR had any cars of this sort, Lionel felt that they were prototypical enough to produce them.  So here is the Lionel MPC 19300 PRR ore car.

Best wishes for a great rest of the week

Don

I only have a few engines and rolling stock, but I do live in Pennsylvania!

Whether or not the Pennsy actually had a Tuscan K4 is still up to debate, but it can't be denied it does look pretty good. Definitely would look better with a set of coaches instead of a mixed freight but it is what it is.

Have to add my GP-9 #2028, Thanks for all who posted.

Here’s one of my favorite Custom Piggyback Trailers I made. The Trailer was a undecorated Weaver that I painted and decaled the flat car is a Lionel PS-4.

@lee drennen posted:

Here’s one of my favorite Custom Piggyback Trailers I made. The Trailer was a undecorated Weaver that I painted and decaled the flat car is a Lionel PS-4.

Nice looking Trailer Lee.

Mark

The PRR's Q1, a single prototype built in 1942, was an 4-6-4-4 duplex design with the rear cylinders reversed and under the firebox to allow larger drivers.  The engine was built for fast freight but the cylinder locations resulted in a smaller firebox that could not maintain boiler pressure under load, limiting its sustained speed.  It had streamlining when it was first built, but it was removed in 1944 because it interfered with maintenance and was not that effective at low speeds.  The engine was last used in 1948 and scraped in 1949.

The is a 3rd Rail model.

@CAPPilot posted:

The PRR's Q1, a single prototype built in 1942, was an 4-6-4-4 duplex design with the rear cylinders reversed and under the firebox to allow larger drivers.  The engine was built for fast freight but the cylinder locations resulted in a smaller firebox that could not maintain boiler pressure under load, limiting its sustained speed.  It had streamlining when it was first built, but it was removed in 1944 because it interfered with maintenance and was not that effective at low speeds.  The engine was last used in 1948 and scraped in 1949.

The is a 3rd Rail model.

Ron beautiful pics always enjoy looking at your 40s layout

My Williams Observation car with added seats and passengers.  updated with LED strips, thinking of adding a latrine and a sink, Gotta keep those hands clean. Passenger car still being worked on.

Update on my Williams cars, still have to add my led light. Also bought 2 Railking P.R.R. painted the inside and added people, Looking for a passenger car and a observation car. By chance if anyone have those mentioned send me a email if you want to part with them. Thank You Mark

PW Lionel GG-1 2332 with a string of Williams cars.

@Sitka posted:

PW Lionel GG-1 2332 with a string of Williams cars

Reminded me that I have a PW 2332.  It needs a thorough cleaning as last time I tried to run it I had some issues.  Nothing mechanically wrong, just dirty.  I got it as more of a display item anyway, but it would be nice to see it running someday.

@GG1 4877 posted:

Reminded me that I have a PW 2332.  It needs a thorough cleaning as last time I tried to run it I had some issues.  Nothing mechanically wrong, just dirty.  I got it as more of a display item anyway, but it would be nice to see it running someday.

Thats how mine was, sold as is, don't work , front truck was broke made a repair, degreased and new brushes and brighter lights run like a clock, thinking should I repaint and new decals not sure yet.

Hey guys. Here is a video I made of the Lionel "Pennsy Coal Hauler" set. It features a Pennsy H-10 2-8-0 Steam Locomotive #1773. The set has (3) Hopper cars, a boxcar and matching caboose. Please enjoy the video.

Donald

Here are the first things I see when I enter my home office:

As mentioned above, the PRR Q1 was an attempt to develop a powerful and dual purpose engine.  While it had its issues, its design led to the far more successful freight only Q2.  The Q2 had a more conventional duplex 4-4-6-4 wheel arrangement and was probably the most successful PRR design.  25 Q2s were built in 1945/6 but they lasted only until 1951 due to relatively high maintenance cost and the introduction of the diesel engine.

The Q2 is MTH, and the L2 is K-Line.

@CAPPilot posted:

As mentioned above, the PRR Q1 was an attempt to develop a powerful and dual purpose engine.  While it had its issues, its design led to the far more successful freight only Q2.  The Q2 had a more conventional duplex 4-4-6-4 wheel arrangement and was probably the most successful PRR design.  25 Q2s were built in 1945/6 but they lasted only until 1951 due to relatively high maintenance cost and the introduction of the diesel engine.

The Q2 is MTH, and the L2 is K-Line.

Nice looking engine CAP, thanks for all sharing some Pennsy Muscle.

Mark

Newest engine to join the roster.

Mallet pounding the rails.

My first T1 was MTH's initial release that I bought back in 2000, a PS1 engine.  I had it upgraded with PS2 shortly afterwards, and it ran well.

Unfortunately, I did little research on the engine before I bought it (I do that a lot). MTH's version of the T1 is based on the as delivered prototype engine, which only two were built in 1942.  These engines had the streamline fairings removed by 1943 to ease maintenance during the high usage of WWII.  Since the fairings were gone by my layout's era (1948/9), this engine no longer fit my needs so I sold it.  While the PRR ran these two engines until 1950 or so, there have been no O scale versions built without the streamlining.

The PRR liked this design, and ignoring the advances in diesel engine technology, built 50 more of the fast passenger engines between 1945 and 1946.  None of these engines had streamlining over the drivers, but still had a streamlined look.  Here is a photo from a post by prrhorseshoecurve of the as built production T1 engine.

Except for the last few built in 1946, the production engines had the port hole pilot.  Here again the streamlining effort interfered with efficient maintenance of the engine, so all earlier T1s had the port holes removed by 1948.  Here is my Lionel scale T1 in the T1's final configuration.

Since only the non-port hole engines were around between 1948 and 1952 (when they were retired), this T1 configuration fits right into my layout's era.  It is one of my favorite engines and it is run a lot.

Looked at every post. Thumbs up for all.

@CAPPilot posted:

My first T1 was MTH's initial release that I bought back in 2000, a PS1 engine.  I had it upgraded with PS2 shortly afterwards, and it ran well.

Unfortunately, I did little research on the engine before I bought it (I do that a lot). MTH's version of the T1 is based on the as delivered prototype engine, which only two were built in 1942.  These engines had the streamline fairings removed by 1943 to ease maintenance during the high usage of WWII.  Since the fairings were gone by my layout's era (1948/9), this engine no longer fit my needs so I sold it.  While the PRR ran these two engines until 1950 or so, there have been no O scale versions built without the streamlining.

The PRR liked this design, and ignoring the advances in diesel engine technology, built 50 more of the fast passenger engines between 1945 and 1946.  None of these engines had streamlining over the drivers, but still had a streamlined look.  Here is a photo from a post by prrhorseshoecurve of the as built production T1 engine.

Except for the last few built in 1946, the production engines had the port hole pilot.  Here again the streamlining effort interfered with efficient maintenance of the engine, so all earlier T1s had the port holes removed by 1948.  Here is my Lionel scale T1 in the T1's final configuration.

Since only the non-port hole engines were around between 1948 and 1952 (when they were retired), this T1 configuration fits right into my layout's era.  It is one of my favorite engines and it is run a lot.

CAP have you ever seen the PRR T1 Trust, they send out newsletters on the build, newsletter@prrt1steamlocomotivetrust.org, They have the tender for the T1. nice photos all. Mark

@Sitka posted:

CAP have you ever seen the PRR T1 Trust, they send out newsletters on the build, newsletter@prrt1steamlocomotivetrust.org, They have the tender for the T1. nice photos all. Mark

Hi, I have been a member for several years.  They keep getting me to fund more parts.  Problem is, at this rate, I'll never see it run.

@CAPPilot posted:

Except for the last few built in 1946, the production engines had the port hole pilot.  Here again the streamlining effort interfered with efficient maintenance of the engine, so all earlier T1s had the port holes removed by 1948.  Here is my Lionel scale T1 in the T1's final configuration.

Since only the non-port hole engines were around between 1948 and 1952 (when they were retired), this T1 configuration fits right into my layout's era.  It is one of my favorite engines and it is run a lot.

Ron;

Thanks for the history. While I am nowhere as road or era specific as you are, knowing some of the history behind these engines is great. Is your Lionel version one of the TMCC engines from around 2000??? I have one  packed away in the basement - it is a beautiful engine... I may just have to pull it out and give it a spin!!!

@Apples55 posted:

Ron;

Thanks for the history. While I am nowhere as road or era specific as you are, knowing some of the history behind these engines is great. Is your Lionel version one of the TMCC engines from around 2000??? I have one  packed away in the basement - it is a beautiful engine... I may just have to pull it out and give it a spin!!!

Yes, this is the 2000 engine.  Lionel released only this one production run because it got caught up in the lawsuit with MTH.  I would really like to see it released again with Legacy.

My engine has been modified.  It came without cruise control, so I has a TAS Engineer On Board installed.  The TAS EOB was a good board, although many did not like the built in slow acceleration.  This was not fixable, but I do not find it a problem (engines are suppose to start slow).  The one great thing about the TAS EOB board was it ability to change chuff rates between 2 and 4 chuffs/rev through the Cab1.  It is neat to hear the 4 double chuffs each rev.

The biggest issue was the too-wide center drivers as they would short out on some switches.  I had the drivers beveled which fixed that problem.

FYI - I became era and road specific to force me to keep my train buying under control.  Since then the research has become part of my enjoyment of the hobby.

Couple Pennsylvanian Shantys, From PW Lionel and Williams.