Skip to main content

I have a PM-1 that I wish to power using a Z-1000. A couple of questions.

1. Will the Z1k and PM-1 play well together? Do they sell adapters to just attach the Z1k brick directly to the PM-1 or do I need to use the Z-troller and attach the red/black wires. Would be nice to bypass the ztroller if possible just for the sake of a cleaner install.

2. My above answer may change the following question if there is a different work around. But for now, does anyone have a the cord to connect the PM to a traditional tranformer (Lionel 6-12893) that that'd like to part with? By the time I pay shipping it's $30 for a simple cable. Please let me know if there is a better option.

3. Can I make my own adapter using this if necessary? I don't have the crimp tool but with needle nose and solder I'm confident it would work assuming this is the right size. https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-2...349624.m46890.l49292

I'm taking my first step into remote conventional operation. I recently hooked up one loop with a PM-1 powered by a lionel 135 brick and it works great. I have a second PM-1 that I'd like to attach to my second loop which is what this thread is about.

Thanks - Rick

Last edited by PRRick
Original Post

Replies sorted oldest to newest

You can indeed make the cable with the connectors you linked, those will work fine.  You'll even have spare connectors.   I don't know of any "off the shelf" adapter for the task.

Rick,

I thought it was not a good idea to go through two controllers, here the Z-1000 controller then the PM, where both chop the sign wave to control voltage.  If the first one (Z-1000) stays at maximum I guess that would work, but your photo shows it set less than maximum (18 volts?) meaning it is sending a chopped sign wave to the PM, which chops it again.  Also, if the Z controller is set at maximum it can produce 20 volts, that is more than TMCC likes (19 volts) although probably not a big deal since Lionel PW transformers could produce 21 volts and are used to power PMs.

I have two Z-1000 bricks for accessory power, but I have not used them for track power.  Hopefully someone will address this since I like your setup and hope it is good.

Last edited by CAPPilot

Thanks for the replies fellas. I do intend to bypass the controller but that plug didn't come in the mail yet. In the mean time I cranked the power all the way on the z1000 and measure 18v at the rails.

Regarding the chopped wave. I understand the concept and have watched videos. What's the real world implications in my case? Is it safe to run or more a performance issue?

Thanks very much - Rick

For a final follow up. Here is the finished product and it works great. The low speed performance gains without the additional MTH controller were obvious as soon as i apllied power with a dual motor williams on the track. 20210205_06005420210205_060207

Here is what I used, just cut off the male end. There are a lot out there but harder to find one with 18ga wires which matches the 18ga output on the z1k brick.

Screenshot_20210205-062133_Amazon Shopping

Attachments

Images (3)
  • 20210205_060054
  • 20210205_060207
  • Screenshot_20210205-062133_Amazon Shopping
Last edited by PRRick

Add Reply

Post
This forum is sponsored by Lionel, LLC
OGR Publishing, Inc., 1310 Eastside Centre Ct, Suite 6, Mountain Home, AR 72653
330-757-3020

www.ogaugerr.com
×
×
×
×
Link copied to your clipboard.
×
×