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POSTING PICTURES - All it takes is 6 clicks.
  • Start a NEW POST or a REPLY to an existing post.
  • If you are starting a NEW POST, click on "Upload Attachments."  If you are REPLYING in an existing thread, click on "Add Attachments" in the bottom left. The "File Chooser" window will open. (CLICK 1)
  • Click on "Upload Files" (CLICK 2)
  • Find the file you want on your computer, the click the OPEN button on that window. (CLICK 3)
  • Click the button which says, "Insert all photos and videos into post body (large size)" (CLICK 4)
  • Click "Finished" (CLICK 5)
  • Click "Submit Reply" (CLICK 6)

DONE.

This is the end result...click on the picture to see the image full size.

 

NS 956 meets 958

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Hi Rich, I was able to post a picture the first time I tried. I did forget to scan down to the finished button the first time so I had to go back a try again, but it worked. I even put a short vedio up on the post.

I was one guy who was on the old site for about ten years and never found the time to do the 3rd party thing, this Hoopla site is so much nicer.

 

Thank You,

Mario E.

Thank you, Thank you Rich!!.  As they say one picture is worth a thousand words.  Couldn't be more simpler.  Sure beats the picture "mickey mousing" you had to do with the old forum.  I attempted it twice without sucess and just gave up, e-mailed the pictures and let someone else have all that fun.

Originally Posted by Bob Delbridge:

Every time I see a photo like yours I'm amazed at just how big the old steamers were.  That's a whole lotta metal going down the track

Yep...a lotta metal all right. 404 tons worth! That's 808,000 pounds! Now picture it roaring down the main line at 70 mph, with a 5,000 ton freight train behind it. Oh baby!

 

Glad you could use my instructions.

Rich,

 

Something strange just happened. I made a post to this thread: https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/d...ly?rl=true#lastReply then went back to add a picture to my post. I got the usual "success" message, and clicked to display in the body as usual. The picture comes up with a red "X" in the body. You can click on the small image and get the larger one, but the red "X" remains in the body. What went wrong?

 

Chris

LVHR

Originally Posted by Burlington Route:

Can we post hosted pics from, say, photobucket...or is it just from our PC?

You can post photos linked from elsewhere, but it's a bit cumbersome that way. Uploading them from your computer to here is the best way to do this.


 

Originally Posted by prrhorseshoecurve:

strange... how come I only see a small square graphic image in an outline ?

If you mean the image in my original post here, that's a very good question. Somehow the link to the image got broken. I'll look into it.

Originally Posted by Burlington Route:

Rich, the reason I ask is that the vast majority of my pics are loaded up to PB rather than my home PC....had more crashes here at home thru the years than on PB...that and "most" forums seem to be remote host pic friendly and not PC hosted friendly. If it's a matter of bandwidth I can start keeping it PC loadable only for here.

It's a piece of cake to post pictures from your computer or PhotoBucket.  For Photobucket, you just have to select the IMG copy and paste it in the message here.  Here's an example from my PB account.

 

 Thanks GRJohn, I figured that the "img" method would work here. I have to upload my camera pics to the PC anyway before I ship them over to PB, so I can just save them in my file to use here too since the admin seems to prefer that way...when in rome...

 One of the pics of the new bachmann shorty On30 boxcars I did for someone who wanted to see pics of it but didn't have one-

 One of my current On30 diesel bashes-

That's the problem with PB, once you get a pic there ya can't get it back home to your PC.

Yeah, I right clicked "properties" on that pic and didn't see an "img or jpg..." after it...thought those were supposed to follow any pic? Alot of folks copy or paste pics and get the dreaded red x only because they left tidbits on the address or forgot something needed...not saying the admin did any of that! Worst one is someone moving a pic around in they're PB account and forgetting that this will cut all links to it...closed accounts will do that too. Its always best to organize one's remote hosting pic site before posting any links or you'll loose them for the masses to see. My PB site isn't as organized as I'd like-lol..oh well.

Still trying to find a face pic of me that's decent...all I've got is some wide view shots of me at last years pinewood derby race, I'm the cubmaster, or family shots.

Originally Posted by Burlington Route:

 ...since the admin seems to prefer that way...when in rome...

It's not necessarily that I prefer it that way. If you upload directly here, there are options available to display your images that you don't have with linked photos hosted elsewhere. They can be displayed larger here and if you post several images, they will automatically present themselves as a slide show, if you choose to look at them that way. You can't do any of that with linked images.

 


 

Originally Posted by gunrunnerjohn:

Rich, the amusing part is your picture link is no good!

Yeah...I know. That's embarrassing! The link to MY OWN picture was broken!


I fixed it.

Originally Posted by win86:

Rich - forget it, I figured it out, somehow. Thanks.

 

Rich I am having trouble with click 3. After I select the picture I want to post I can not find an OPEN choice to click on. I am using Window XP SP3.

 

Thanks for your help.

Did you double click on the folder, click the pic you want and then double to open it...I don't think about it that much anymore, but if one click won't do it, give it a second....clicks are cheap- trains aren't!

Originally Posted by BK:

Why can't I and other members post pictures with no help from tech support. I haven't changed anything with the way I use to post pictures. Some answers I got was to use Firefox or some other program...WHY? when I didn't need it before?

Because technology marches on. This most recent change was to eliminate the use of Flash in the uploading process and go to html5 for this. This allows people using iPhones and iPads to upload photos...something they could not do before.

 

The vast majority of members are not having any problems here. Those that are using Internet Exploder are having more problems than others. That's not a surprise because Internet Exploder is a horrible browser.

 

You hear Firefox mentioned often because it is a MUCH better browser and IT WORKS.

 

 

There was no announcement because for 99.9% of the forum members who post pictures it was a non-event. Nothing changed and they can still post pictures just fine.

 

Read this thread carefully. The people who are having problems are running old versions of Windoze (Vista), old versions of Internet Exploder (ver 9 and older) and outdated anti-virus software.

 

Technology marches on...

I'm not sure who came up with 99.9% of your users not being affected by this....but I would certainly call those results into question.

 

Someone has made a high level decision which makes it easier to upload pix if you're an Apple user....but impossible if you're an "old" IE user.

 

Does anyone else find the mantra of "technology marches on" somewhat ironic....when our hobby is greatly centered on our past?  Why am I being treated as if I'm trying to upload pix using an Atari 2600?

 

"Your arrogance blinds you." -The Emperor to Luke Skywalker in Return of the Jedi.

 

Technology marches on...

But not always in a positive direction....adapting usually comes with a price tag attached.   

BTW, Firefox locks up and crashes daily on both of my computers and is no more reliable or stable than IE.  Slowly moving to Chrome....but I suspect that all browsers have their own odd little foibles and personalities despite whatever mythos is followed.

While I know a lot of the focus for this problem is browsers, my particular problem arose when I moved from version 6.3 to version 7.0 of my firewall.  I confirmed this by trying to upload one picture using IE, Firefox, Opera and Chrome, none of which worked.

 

Many people have automatic update set in their firewalls and may not even realize that some particular update might have caused the problem.  I always set security programs to alert me to available updates so that I can trace potential problems like this, after the update I perform, when they arise.

 

Chuck

Originally Posted by Berkshire President:

I'm not sure who came up with 99.9% of your users not being affected by this....but I would certainly call those results into question.

You can call the results into question all you want. Out of 14,950 members here, the only people having issues posting pictures are some of those posting within this thread.

 

You can accuse me of being arrogant if you wish, but that still doesn't solve your problem. Download FIREFOX and your problem will likely go away. I use it literally every day with zero problems.

As a long time IE user, I too was always put off by Rich's constant put down of Internet "Exploder".  It was my browser of choice for several years and I never had any problems with it.  Plus, I make my living developing applications using the Microsoft product suite so I wasn't about to use any other browser.  About 6 months ago I began having big time problems with it crashing and running sluggishly on my Windows 7 machine.  My 15 year-old son had been using Google Chrome on his Windows 7 machine and suggested I do the same.  Boy, am I happy I did.  It is stable and much more reliable than the version of IE I had been running.  So...Rich's recommendation to avoid IE does have merit IMHO. 

 

Rick

 

Pine Creek....I never said you could not post pictures on the Forum using Internet Explorer.  I only said I started having issues with it (outside of the Forum) to the point it was freezing or crashing too frequently, so I switched to Google Chrome, which I am quite happy with.  Our work computers use Internet Explorer 9 and I have not had any issues with it.  But I switched to Chrome as my browser on my home computer for the reasons cited above.  I will try to post a picture using Internet Explorer and see if it works.

 

Update...here is a picture attached from my computer using IE 11.  Worked just fine.

 

Rick

Christmas

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I work in the IT field. (owner of a Managed service Provider) but as a owner doesn't mean I don't do the work I still do. I'm a one man show per say. google chrome Firefox IE. I personally don't like chrome Firefox haven't used it. all of my client run IE in the past year there has been more issues with IE but those seem to be working themselves out in the last few updates. the only thing you ever had to do in IE was possibly add a site to the compatability settings. I also run a easy list on it to block adds. the only browser I use is IE. and haven't been able to not view something everything works just fine. One site I use to go on said to install chrome or it wouldn't work that was stamps.com and I added it to the compatibility setting and it worked fine. I even run this forum in compatibility mode and it works fine. about 2 months ago I couldn't upload photo's from my phone but that seems to be better now. being in IT and hearing so many places push you to use chrome is scary. a few years ago google released a software package called google desktop and they got in trouble for indexing just like they do to a web page personal computers. chrome still has the desktop feature. it doesn't go on any machine I work with. do they still do it I don't know but I'm not risking it.

my 2 cents worth.

 

this site works great for me with win8.1 and IE 11

Originally Posted by Pine Creek Railroad:

Rich,

   For some reason today I was unable to get the OGR forum to post my copied pictures from Photo Bucket, they copy on to the OGR thread but do not post for some reason, can your fix this problem?

PCRR/Dave

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Rich as you see the symbol above is all that posts now!

Dave

Nothing has changed here...and as you can see above, I fixed your post and the image appears there now.

 

I think you used an incorrect link for that image. You were using a link that was for the entire PAGE that the image was on, not just the image itself.

 

In fact, here it is again...

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Rich,

   Thanks much, however I have been copying and posting pictures in the same manner for many years, 1st time I have ever had a problem, I have been trying to copy & paste only one picture for some time now, something must have changed on the photo bucket sight also.

Thanks for the help Rich.   Now I get the individual picture to post in the manner below, that needs to be clicked on to be able to see it. (bummer)

PCRR/Dave

 

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If you have been doing it the same way and now it is not working, Photobucket changed something.

 

When I click the link on your page to get the URL for the PHOTO, I get code which ends in ".html" which is a link to a PAGE, not a photo.

 

Why do you bother to mess around with Photobucket when you can upload pictures here right from your computer?

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Rich & TR Gary,

   You were both correct and I finally figured out how to bring the individual picture over from Photo Bucket they have added another step for copying the indvidual picture now, just more steps to accomplish the same work.

Thanks for everything!

Rich the reason I use Photo bucket for bringing the photos over to OGR is that I can store them on Photo Bucket and then erase them from my SD Card and they will remain on the OGR.

PCRR/Dave

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I can tell you why you should use the add atttachments method and not use the copy and paste method.

Search the forum and find and answer to a problem discussed in 2011 or 2012 and an important photo of the fix is missing with a dumb photo bucket message.

 

Search for a layout design idea and find a wonderful layout with the photos missing. Same dumb message.

 

Find a thread of interest and the photo of the topic is so small, zooming the browser doesn't give you a good look.

 

Use the tools the forum provides and be considerate of other forum users.

 

Copy and paste is so Win98.

Thanks everyone for the help.

 

I was able to add a pair of two photo replies this morning using the "add attachments" method and both replies appeared right away with the photos displayed.

 

The cut and paste method did work for one reply with only one photo. Obviously, that method does not work with multiple photos in one reply.

 

Moonman, I am sorry if you were offended by my questions and lack of knowledge about this forum. I didn't think I was being inconsiderate by asking for help. I guess that, in your opinion, only experts should make posts and not trouble the tech support people with questions.

 

 

Jerry

Sorry, Jerry. That was a little harsh. I vented my frustration on your situation.

 

Actually, I was speaking about the photobucket and pasted pictures that end up not being available at a later date as the act of inconsideration. It was not your asking.

 

Ask away, I do. If you don't, you won't get the answer that you need. I look forward to your contributions and photos.

Originally Posted by gunrunnerjohn:
I suggest you grow a slightly thicker skin Jerry.

AMEN!

Jerry, the issue with your pictures had nothing to do with you or your pictures. If you had left them in your post, they would have been approved!

The problem is this...we have a few "trigger words" set which will send a post to the moderation queue for review before posting. Every once in a while, the coding which represents a picture triggers on one of these words. I don't know why it happens and Hoopla Tech Support can't tell me either, but it happens. This is an automatic process...no one here is looking at your pictures making decisions about them.

If you had left your posting alone, one of our moderators would have discovered it and approved it! So how about re-posting the pictures you posted the other day so we can enjoy them? They may go to moderation again because of the image coding issue, but they'll ultimately get approved.

With regard to "discontinuing" your membership, if you don't want to participate here, that is certainly your choice. There is nothing you or we have to do, you just don't participate any more. I certainly hope that does NOT happen.

Tin Plate the Original Stuff

 

Jerry Davis,

   Don't quit the OGR because of picture posting problems, running a forum like OGR is more complex than you might imagine, there are things that happen in an automatic function, I think you may have set off a couple of the triggers Rich has set up to help

run the forum smoothly.  I post a lot of pictures here on the OGR and had to have Rich guide me thru some of the new procedures myself, take it slow and learn how to post the pictures and everything works out fine.

This is still the best managed forum on the Web!

PCRR/Dave

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Originally Posted by OGR Webmaster:
Jerry, the issue with your pictures had nothing to do with you or your pictures. If you had left them in your post, they would have been approved!


The problem is this...we have a few "trigger words" set which will send a post to the moderation queue for review before posting. Every once in a while, the coding which represents a picture triggers on one of these words. I don't know why it happens and Hoopla Tech Support can't tell me either, but it happens. This is an automatic process...no one here is looking at your pictures making decisions about them.

If you had left your posting alone, one of our moderators would have discovered it and approved it! So how about re-posting the pictures you posted the other day so we can enjoy them? They may go to moderation again because of the image coding issue, but they'll ultimately get approved.

 

 

Rich,

 

Thank you for the explanation, something that makes sense. I will try again. This time I hope I can do it correctly.

 

Glad to hear you've stuck around & got the picture thing down at least.

 The video doesn't always show in the composing window for me, sometimes it doesn't show till post is submitted (other than the "orange box"). Size of the video, or file type may be holding you up. I haven't read all the posts here, but FYI- Photobucket can get slow, doesn't always do well for me. I download from PB into my pc then upload in attachments.

jdunn posted:

Hi, Guys,

I need your help to a truly illiterate computer person. I have taken many pictures of my layout on my Apple 6 I phone and could someone kindly take me from there to putting the photos on the OGR Forum for others to enjoy. Thank you for all your help!!!!  John P.Dunn Sr.

John,

When you are posting there is an "add attachments" in the lower right corner of the blue box. If you select it the next step is it wants you to browse your images and select one to load. Try it and let us know where you get hung up. After it loads there will be a box for you to select if you'd like to have it appear full size in your post.

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jdunn posted:

Dear Bobby,

Let us see what happens. I guess my question is now how do I transfer/download photos from my IPhone to the computer so I can attach them to the OGR forum. Thank you, John

That's a mystery question for Steve Jobs!  Doesn't Apple require you to have iTunes (or some sort of Apple only software?) to download images to your computer?

Have you tried doing a post directly from your phone? I see you have some type of photo database attachments on your last post. What are they supposed to be?

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BobbyD posted:
jdunn posted:

Dear Bobby,

Let us see what happens. I guess my question is now how do I transfer/download photos from my IPhone to the computer so I can attach them to the OGR forum. Thank you, John

That's a mystery question for Steve Jobs!  Doesn't Apple require you to have iTunes (or some sort of Apple only software?) to download images to your computer?

Have you tried doing a post directly from your phone?

Plug in your iPhone to your PC with the USB cable provided with the iPhone.  The iPhone will ask to let the PC access it.  Once you accept, go to explorer and find the iPhone as a drive.  Click until you get to the DCIM folder.  All your pictures are there for copying.

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OGR Webmaster posted:

Exactly what does "...having difficulty..." mean?

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I had a "test" photo loaded  in "Photos", clicked, "Add Attachments", and, for some reason, couldn't find the URL for the photo that  I had selected from photos [That photo had been sent from my iPhone.].  As a result, I couldn't post the photo.  This time, I tried a different photo, and that worked.  Very simple, actually.

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Quick question.. ever since Apple released IOS 11, pictures taken with an iPhone or iPad running IOS 11 or higher store the picture in HEIC format. I tried to upload a picture from my iPhone that was in that format and it doesn't look like OGR Forum likes that format, so I converted the two pictures to PNG format and uploaded them just fine which was no big deal but had to do the conversion and upload from a desktop computer.

Any plans to update the forum software to accept the latest Apple HEIC format since so many people are using smartphones to take pictures or is it even possible?

Thanks,

In the last couple years, Apple has started making the default option HEIF (or HEVC). I upgraded from a 5s to an 11. Here's a screenshot from the camera settings:

iphonesettings

Link to an Apple support page on the subject:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207022

That said - even though I have High Efficiency checked, when I use AirDrop to move a pic from the phone to the laptop (Mac), the pic comes over with a .jpg extension. When I open it in Photoshop, it says the color space is Display P3 (because I have PS set to let me know if the image isn't in the working color space I selected).

OK, now I will try to post the same image straight from the phone. Previously was from laptop.

1DDCBE90-ED17-4299-9FAF-B5C527CCFB56

Edit: seems to work OK (viewing on phone and laptop, both from that Cupertino company).

One last image, photo instead of screenshot. Again, straight from photo library on phone.

127DDF8D-1EE4-441A-8442-DE050C3D7BCA
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aptop is about five years old, running Mojave.

David

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What a hoot. I am reminded of the old phrase, “There’s no such thing as a free lunch.”  Apple calls it “High Efficiency” whereas I call it what it is - highly compressed image files that sacrifice image quality to keep file sizes small. This isn’t something new. This is a trade-off that has been part of the process of working in digital imagery ever since digital imagery came on the scene. With regard to Apple’s hyperbole about HEIC, it’s nothing more than attempting to put lipstick on a pig.

If you want the images you take with your phone to be compatible with all the various web formats, then choose “Most Compatible.”

Seems pretty clear and simple to me.

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The new Apple format is only offered on the last 2 versions of iPhones and iPads. I switched the camera on the iPhone to most compatible and here is a picture straight from the camera that is being uploaded from the latest version of iPad. It is no big deal, I was curious about support for the newest format, I agree it is better to use JPEG format.

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Rich Melvin posted:

What a hoot. I am reminded of the old phrase, “There’s no such thing as a free lunch.”  Apple calls it “High Efficiency” whereas I call it what it is - highly compressed image files that sacrifice image quality to keep file sizes small. This isn’t something new. This is a trade-off that has been part of the process of working in digital imagery ever since digital imagery came on the scene. With regard to Apple’s hyperbole about HEIC, it’s nothing more than attempting to put lipstick on a pig.

Couldn't have said it better myself, I think you have it! Lipstick on a pig is exactly what it is!

Personally, I'm moving to PNG graphics as they're lossless.  If I happen to decide to edit them a couple of times, I'm not turning my graphics into mush.

The above picture of the C&NW engines was taken with my iPhone XR and is in JPEG format and is a 3.4MB size file. The APPLE HEIF (compressed) file would be about 1/10 of that size. I suspect that 95% of all Apple iPhone users that take pictures are doing so to upload them to social media websites or email/text them to friends. They probably couldn't care less about "quality". Apple is probably doing most iPhones users a favor since most users are on limited data plans and/or running out of space on their phones. All major social media sites can handle the new Apple picture format. The iPhone X series and iPhone 11 series have nice resolution cameras and take great pictures but do create larger size files using JPEG format.

 

DG posted:

... iPhone users that take pictures are doing so to upload them to social media websites or email/text them to friends. They probably couldn't care less about "quality"...

And there, in one sentence, is a PERFECT description of the millennial generation.

Let's do a side by side comparison. Here' s my original jpg, which is a 193K file.
CO Hudson Original



And here is the same image, compressed down to a 31K file.
CO Hudson jpg Test

If you don't see the difference in the quality of these images, or if you see it but it doesn't bother you, welcome to the millennial generation.

Hard drive and device memory cost is cheap today. There's no need to sacrifice quality just to save a few bytes of memory!

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Just a quick update... I checked the size of the two Apple Compressed File (HEIF) pictures that I took for a different thread on OGR Forum that got me into this discussion, and their size was 1.2MB. Assuming that if I had used JPEG settings, I would have gotten a similar size to the above picture of 3.4MB, it sounds like Apple is using to 3 to 1 compression ratio which is not "that" bad. So my previous guess of 10 to 1 compression was not correct. Looking at the two Apple compressed files on a 24 inch monitor, I can see great details including counting rivets on a building.

As I posted earlier in the this thread, I converted the 2 pictures from HEIF type to PNG to post them on the other thread, and the size of the PNG files are 2.1MB, so again I don't think there was a whole lot of "loss" details.

EDITED: Changed original 1.2GB to 1.2MB and original 3.4GB to 3.4MB. Hope Rich is now happy!!!

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DG posted:

...the two Apple Compressed File (HEIF) pictures...size was 1.2GB. Assuming that if I had used JPEG settings, I would have gotten a similar size to the above picture of 3.4GB..

Two still images total 1.2 GIGABYTES? That's just crazy!

I work in Photoshop literally ever day. I have prepared tens of thousands of images for publication in this magazine, other magazines and for a book I'm about to publish. A FULL PAGE image at 300 dpi, in CMYK color format is a tif image of 30 to 40 Megabytes. To say it another way, that's .03 to .04 Gigabytes for a full page, 8.5" x11" image. A high quality jpg image (a compressed format) is in the 8 to 10 megabyte range, which is .008 to .01 Gigabytes.

How in the world do you get 1.2 GIGABYTES in only two still images? Even worse, how to you get to 3.4 Gigs for two jpg images!

Something is drastically wrong here.

OK, finally figured out how to export the pix in their saved format (JPG or HEIC). Settings>Photos>Transfer to Mac or PC - check keep originals. This scene isn't a great example - not a lot of fine detail - but here's a comparison of one pic shot in HEIC, and one in JPG. Opened both in PS, cropped to a little under 1,000 pixels on a side, and saved as the highest jpeg quality.

First is HEIC:

shotheic

Second is the jpeg:

shotjpeg

The jpeg out of the phone was 4.6 MB, and the HEIC was 3 MB.

And, just to confirm what DG wrote, uploading the HEIC file to the forum didn't work. It shows a page with the corner turned down where the image thumbnail should be under files, when in edit reply.

David

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My bad typing on iPad, meant 1.2MB and 3.4MB, well I got the 2.1MB correct so cool off..

If it would make you happy, edit my post to correct it or I will when I get home on a reasonable size keyboard 😁

EDITED: Wow that is the quickest run home in history so I could update my above post, hope you are happy Rich. And yes John, since the iPhone has a 12 megapixel camera, getting a 3.4GB or 1.2GB picture out of it would be amazing!!!

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I agree with Jim, I have uploaded Apple compressed pictures to Windows 10 computers with no problem, posted them on camera forums with no problems (not surprising), and text/emailed them to Android based devices with no problems for the receiving party, so that is why I was surprised when OGR forum software didn’t seem to like the files.

In fact the way I converted the Apple compressed pictures to PNG files to post here was to upload them to a Windows 10 computer and then convert and post them

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