Postwar Celebration ZW Controller: NEW ISSUE - See my last reply below for details

There might be, but the metal base is not the only problem  The upper bracket can also crack that mounts to the new metal base.  Using an over sized washer you might get a better hold down so the gears do not slip.  But I leave mine up or only move it slowly to prevent skipping.  When you take cover off it won't be to hard to see how it works and what you need to do.  G

Stan,

I had purchased the same unit in 1999 as well.

I believe that the attached image shows the metal replacement bracket. The originals are plastic and prone to cracking.

I had a repair guy replace mine about 10 years ago and they had been fine since then. 

The experts here on the forum can verify if these are the right parts.

Take the fours screws out of the top and remove the cover. Then, you can visually inspect it and determine what is going on.

Post some photos or a video if you need more help.

here is the link to 6-32930 shows more parts - they are the same

Thanks to all.

I will open it up to take a look and report back.

Stan,  I had same problem with my ZWC and corrected with new metal brackets last year.  It is actually easier than it may look, and I found it necessary to add some "shims" and take out slack in the gearing.  View attached pics of what I found/corrected.  Hope this helps.

Jesse    TCA  12-68275

Graz nailed it.  I have fixed many of those with the broken plastic part.  The metal replacement bracket is still available at Lionel .  I keep a few on hand as the transformer with the broken plastic parts can usually be had for short money.

Good pictures Jesse.  Although some people are not big fans of this transformer, I like it stacked out with 4 180 bricks.  The old ZW can not come close to this guy.

Right, but see the vertical plastic bracket that the two gear pots attach to in the first picture?  The black wire runs across it.  Now look down at the 2 Philip screws that attach that bracket to your new metal plate.  You can see them in that first picture.  THAT IS the plastic bracket that broke on my PWC ZW, not the plastic bracket that they made a replacement for.   If it breaks, you need to be inventive in repairing it, as it was not replacement part when I had checked years ago.  G

GGG posted:

Right, but see the vertical plastic bracket that the two gear pots attach to in the first picture?  The black wire runs across it.  Now look down at the 2 Philip screws that attach that bracket to your new metal plate.  You can see them in that first picture.  THAT IS the plastic bracket that broke on my PWC ZW, not the plastic bracket that they made a replacement for.   If it breaks, you need to be inventive in repairing it, as it was not replacement part when I had checked years ago.  G

yes  In the parts link above 14, 15 pot assembly is not available, 16 function lever assy left is, 18 function lever assy RIGHT or A/U is not.

PROBLEM SOLVED!

I opened up the controller and found that the nut was loose that attaches the AU pot shaft to the bracket. I was able to snug it up with a needle nose pliers.

I re-connected a brick to the unit and now get full voltage with the AU handle extended. In fact, the handle moves very smoothly now. LOL, the nut must have been loose all along!

I re-installed the controller back on my power control area, tested and all is well again!

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After:

Sweet! Don't know until you peek. If you haven't put the cover on it yet, take a look at the chip and look for SO1 hex printed on it.

Moonman:

Already closed up and re-installed. I did have an updated chip installed by Lionel long ago when an issue arose when I purchased my Legacy controller. It was quite interesting, because I received a call from a gentleman named Mike Reagan at Lionel before it was commonly known that Mike had gone to work for Lionel - after Train America Studios. I may have been (one of) the first to break the news, right here on our forum!

stangtrain posted:

Moonman:

Already closed up and re-installed. I did have an updated chip installed by Lionel long ago when an issue arose when I purchased my Legacy controller. It was quite interesting, because I received a call from a gentleman named Mike Reagan at Lionel before it was commonly known that Mike had gone to work for Lionel - after Train America Studios. I may have been (one of) the first to break the news, right here on our forum!

Good story. Well, you are ready for many more years of life. Now you know which parts to find for perhaps future repairs. I, too, run one of these with four bricks. Very stable.

stangtrain posted:

Moonman:

Already closed up and re-installed. I did have an updated chip installed by Lionel long ago when an issue arose when I purchased my Legacy controller. It was quite interesting, because I received a call from a gentleman named Mike Reagan at Lionel before it was commonly known that Mike had gone to work for Lionel - after Train America Studios. I may have been (one of) the first to break the news, right here on our forum!

I worked with JonZ when the issue arose to help troubleshoot the issue.  I suspect it was around the same time.  It manifested itself as soon as my Legacy was connected.  I imagine we were probably both in the loop on that one.  Jon sent me an update chip when they figured out what was happening.

Drew: Thanks for the reference to Jim Barrett's video. It may just come in handy one day.

New issue last night:

I powered up my transformers and the PWC ZW controller had a green light, accepted Legacy signals (indicated by blinking light), but power to all four channels was -0-. It was as if the "halt" button had been hit, but it wasn't.

I tried powering down and on again, but same result.

I did have the chip upgrade done many years ago after I bought the Legacy system.

I removed the controller from my layout and took it to my workbench.

I connected a powerhouse to channel A and checked the voltage and it registered 0 to 18 as it should. I connected a second powerhouse to channel B and it worked normally as well as did the other channels.

A variable may be that I have the PWC ZW voltmeter attached, so I removed it and re-installed the controller to my layout. All four channels then worked normally again.

I removed the unit again and re-installed the volt meter and re-installed in my layout.

The controller is once again working normally.

While I am glad all is well now, it would have been nice to have found a reason.

My only guess is that the motherboard could be going bad. I suppose there is no test for that, so it's just wait and see.

Has anyone else experienced this sequence of events?

Are you running two bricks and 4 channels? The bricks should be in A & C, the jumpers in B & D.

I am running 4 bricks connected to the controller.

My guess would be more of a meter issue or a signal issue if you are controlling the voltage via Legacy.

The late Dale Manquen described his concerns about the design of that meter on his TrainFacts web site.