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so as I am thinking about laying track on my new layout, I know I want to run both TMCC and DCS. I am usin Gargraves flex track in 3 foot or so sections.  I was thinking I might pre wire each section in about the middle of the piece with pigtail leads to the middle and one side rail as I lay the track. Feed those pigtails through holes underneath the track for later wiring into the power grid.  I was also considering scolding a connection between the 2side rails on each pice to ensure the two side rails are electrically the same.  

Bad idea to pre-wire the sections this way? Would it be better to just do the wiring to each section after the track is in place?

my first hi-rail layout so I need your advice.  

 

Don Merz

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Gargraves track can be pre-wired/soldered before installation.  You don't have to do every section.  Older track on some of the Fort Pitt Modules, we soldered a small jumper between sections to enhance electrical continuity.  Pictured, #14ga solid copper wire drops from track sections.

 

The other thing you can do is use the GarGraves pigtails.  These are essentially track pins with leads soldered to them.

http://www.gargraves.com/accessories.html#pwires

If you don't know how to solder or prefer not to, these are very useful.  A bit pricey, but useful.

I believe these are 16 gauge wire (don't quote me).  Anyway, I will also be using 12 gauge stranded wire for my buses - actually Red / Black zipcord.

George

 

gunrunnerjohn posted:

I'm not a fan of the pigtails, Atlas has them as well.  You're just adding a frequently poor connection between you and the track for no reason.  Soldering the wire to the track is a far superior method, at least IMO.

It may well be a superior method but I haven’t soldered since 8th grade shop class.  In the process of laying and wiring track, I will be testing every connection.

George

Don:

If I am not mistaken I believe Gargraves is a tubular style with a slot running along the bottom. If this is the right track style then I have seen some simply solder wire to a thin piece of metal that fits snugly into the track slot. You can even solder the connection if you want. This is a little more involved than simply soldering wire to track but the thing I like about this process is that you can make up a whole bunch of these connectors at your bench and then bring them to the layout, attach to the track wherever you want and drop into a hole in the base.

I also (like John and Mike do) run three wires whether I want to use one ground track for an accessory or simply to make sure I have a solid ground.

Joe

I prefer soldered rail feeder connections, because they are more dependable than the alternatives. A thin tab slipped into the slot in the bottom of a rail may provide an adequate electrical connection at first, but over time it is subject to corrosion and to movement with resulting loss of good contact. On my 2-rail layout I soldered an 18-gauge solid feeder to every individual piece of rail and I have never had a problem with continuity. I made the feeders as short as possible between the rail and the 10-gauge stranded buss, to which they are also soldered. Soldering drop wires/feeders to the rails isn't very difficult if you use a good iron and the correct flux and practice for awhile with an old piece of track, and it is definitely worth the trouble, in my opinion.

Personally, I would not connect the outside rails together with a separate "bridge" wire. Just provide all three leads, then if you want them connected, you can do it below the deck. For my mainlines, I only use one rail for ground. The other one is for detection, as GRJ pointed out.

I don't solder my feeders, too much work. I use the crimp tab connectors, they make that center rail easy. I use a combination drill/countersink bit to go through the roadbed. This provides a large enough hole for the wire, as well as relief for the shoulder of the connector. It also makes it nearly impossible to pull them out.

Stranded wire is a must. I like 16 gauge, and I put feeders on every 3' section. Short pieces don't get them. I try not to rely on pins for electrical connections. They really should be for track alignment only.

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