Originally Posted by Hudson J1e:
MTH is coming out with code 128 rail for O scale. It lists for cheaper than Atlas O track. I wonder what it will look like? I'm definitely going to York next week to find out as much as I can about S scale and the new MTH track which would solve some of my problems with O scale.
I don't know.... this S scale decision is really tough. Is any of the AF stuff good enough that if it were detailed it could be used on a scale layout? Does anyone make scale detailed trucks for S? How about if I wanted to re-power a locomotive, any drive systems available? I realize this is just speculation but do you think Atlas would ever consider entering S?
I know I said my other question was the last one--sorry about that.
Keep asking questions, Phil. They are making this a rather productive thread.
It's better to ask than not, and even if you don't decided to go into S, I don't feel like I'm wasting my time. You're asking very good questions. I don't want to lie and say it's as easy as going into N or HO.
I'm assuming MTH's track will look suspiciously like the old SHS S-Trax. That the former SHS track in the front, Lionel's FastTrack behind and code 100 on Homa-bed in the background:
We'll have to see if MTH continues with the specked ballast effect.
It is a tough decision to go into S today. A lot of things I could say with certainty 2 years ago I can't say today. We're still suffering from the Sanda Kan Shuffle, it may still take a little time to stabilize.
It was also tough in 1985 when I moved up from HO.
SHS hadn't been born yet. There was a secondary market of old Kinsman kits, Flyer conversions and the occasional S Scale Locomotive and Supply kits. Sunset and Overland came and went, while another brass company started up, Omnicon, the owner died several years later and the company faded away.
Then there was American Models with their FP7 and very small assortment of cars. They didn't even have a caboose yet.
A "friend" worked me over for a couple of years. I would get clubbed on the head on a dark and stormy Friday night and wake up either at a CASG meeting or at an S Fest.
But, it was two things that did finally make me decide: 1) I moved into a house with a space perfect for the HO railroad of my dreams and 2)American Models.
If AM wasn't there, I likely would have stayed in HO, even though I has a pretty fair selection of Postwar and MPC Lionel tucked away back then.
"Scale" Lionel/Flyer is still in the embryonic stage. You know about as much as I do regarding the new stuff.
Traditional Flyer can be reworked into something respectable. I won't go into the gory details, but all these are conversions using AM trucks (which they do sell separately and some AM parts I happened to glom on to back then.
OK, this one's a ringer, It's a Lionel/MPC 9040 body converted to S... But the rest are Flyer conversions.
Scenery Unlimited has a catalog that is a decent reference book, they carry a lot of the old cast metal detail parts.
As mentioned earlier, AM has trucks, hopefully MTH will continue making the SHS trucks available separately.
I hope we're answering your questions factually without creating an overload.