Random Photos of Trolley Cars

Here is an old trolley from Milan, Italy that runs in San Francisco.  Matt

At the Caledonia Park, Chambersburg & Gettysburg #12 in 1904 - let's go dancing!

Have spent a lot of time at Caledonia Park, taken a lot of photos there too. Pretty place but no sign of the old street car tracks even where the loop was.

mwb posted:

At the Caledonia Park, Chambersburg & Gettysburg #12 in 1904 - let's go dancing!

What luck! My dance card's full! :-). However, tell me, do those windows in the monitor roof really swing outward hinged from alternating sides?  It looks like it, and so when they are open they form four "Vs".

I've never seen monitor windows that before -- only ones that are hinged at the top.  This current design would seem to limit the airflow more.  Plus, there are only four pairs.

Interesting.

Tomlinson Run Railroad

UPDATE:  It's hard to see in the photo above, but mwb's post from yesterday shows the windows from the side view and they are nicely centered.  So unusual trucks and windows? 

TRRR

TomlinsonRunRR posted:

What luck! My dance card's full! :-). However, tell me, do those windows in the monitor roof really swing outward hinged from alternating sides?  It looks like it, and so when they are open they form four "Vs".

I've never seen monitor windows that before -- only ones that are hinged at the top.  This current design would seem to limit the airflow more.  Plus, there are only four pairs.

They do appear to be hinged just as you note.  Only car I've seen like that as well, but then again there are probably others out there..............

UPDATE:  It's hard to see in the photo above, but mwb's post from yesterday shows the windows from the side view and they are nicely centered.  So unusual trucks and windows? 

Yes, a very interestingly detailed car -- could model just about all, but I need to ask about on those sideframes...... 

C & G cars at Black Gap

Trolley cars in New Hampshire.

KeenePortsmouth, Dover & York Street Railway

C & G Trolley Line to Caledonia Park Near Chambersburg PA

C & G Trolley Station at Caledonia Park near Chambersburg PA

The end portion of the PRy/PAT Drake line after being cut back a few years ago.

OK I'll play... look at that web of pull-overs!

Reading (and not PA!) England 1966.  Attributed to Alan Murray-Rust.

1924 Chambersburg & Gettysburg Rwy Car 1 with motorman Calvin Seuseny - looks like there's dancing in Caledonia again!

Trolley cars in New Jersey.

Trenton & New Brunswick

Jersey Central Traction

Public Service of New Jersey On Elevated  Line Between Hoboken & Jersey City

A C&G Trolley in Memorial Square, Chambersburg, Pa in route to Fayetteville

"Elmlawn" funeral car of the International Railway Co., Buffalo, N.Y. Built by Brill in 1895 for $5,798.00, it had 4 G. E. motors, Brill #27 trucks, a length of 38' 5". The Elmlawn, one of 3 funeral cars, met its demise along with the Greenwood funeral car in the Coldsprings car house fire of 1915.

At the CG&W Rwy Car Barn in Waynesboro Pa

Trolley cars in West Virginia.Interurban in McWorterHeavy car in Parkersburg

The Pennsylvania Trolley Museum Calendar Photo for September 2017 showed Pittsburgh Railways Crane Car #M283 turning onto to Liberty Avenue in downtown Pittsburgh in 1954 on its way to a job site with a line truck following.  Note the 1700-series PCC car in the background.  Unfortunately, this view doesn't show the boom.  

Also yinz older Pittsburghers will remember that refreshing drink advertised on the billboard: Reymer's Lemon Blend!  What ever happened to it?

Bill

Also yinz older Pittsburghers will remember that refreshing drink advertised on the billboard: Reymer's Lemon Blend!  What ever happened to it?

Still available: http://www.pennmac.com/items/3...-lemon-blennd-gallon

mwb posted:

Also yinz older Pittsburghers will remember that refreshing drink advertised on the billboard: Reymer's Lemon Blend!  What ever happened to it?

Still available: http://www.pennmac.com/items/3...-lemon-blennd-gallon

Interesting that someone else has revived the brand name and the product.  So Reymer's is no longer in business but Lemon Blennd is now made by a company called B&K Mfg. and sold by an Italian deli on Penn Ave. in the Strip District.  I'll have to stop in there the next time I'm in the 'burg.

Thanks,

Bill

Usually fahnd dahn gian iggle next to the Daily's mixes n'at. Throw some in yer buggy next time yinz are in tahn.

CG & W 30 at Penmar - destination sign states Hagerstown but to get there you had to go to Shady Grove and transfer to the Hagerstown & Frederick.

All of these trolley once graced city streets in Alabama. Lots of colorful Birneys.

False alarm. This fire in Birmingham is in a faux trolley bus.

Greg Nagy posted:

Usually fahnd dahn gian iggle next to the Daily's mixes n'at. Throw some in yer buggy next time yinz are in tahn.

Greg: Thanks, fortunately I do understand Pittsburghese and will look for it at the Glenshaw Giant Eagle on my stop over in Pittsburgh after York.  I'll also pick up some IC Light while I'm there to bring back to Florida.  

Bill

WftTrains posted:

Greg Nagy posted:

Usually fahnd dahn gian iggle next to the Daily's mixes n'at. Throw some in yer buggy next time yinz are in tahn.

Greg: Thanks, fortunately I do understand Pittsburghese and will look for it at the Glenshaw Giant Eagle on my stop over in Pittsburgh after York.  I'll also pick up some IC Light while I'm there to bring back to Florida.  

Bill

  

 

Ok... But if you want "fresh made" (and to include trolleys), take the T to South Park station, climb the hill to see PCC 4007, then continue on to Danny's Pizza on RT88 hot a hoagie and a Blennd. Mixed in the old fountain machine, no less. Perfect pairing.

Greg Nagy posted:

WftTrains posted:

Greg Nagy posted:

Usually fahnd dahn gian iggle next to the Daily's mixes n'at. Throw some in yer buggy next time yinz are in tahn.

Greg: Thanks, fortunately I do understand Pittsburghese and will look for it at the Glenshaw Giant Eagle on my stop over in Pittsburgh after York.  I'll also pick up some IC Light while I'm there to bring back to Florida.  

Bill

  

 

Ok... But if you want "fresh made" (and to include trolleys), take the T to South Park station, climb the hill to see PCC 4007, then continue on to Danny's Pizza on RT88 hot a hoagie and a Blennd. Mixed in the old fountain machine, no less. Perfect pairing.

I'll keep that in mind the next time we visit our friend in Bethel Park.

Thanks,
Bill

CG&W car and H&F car at the Shady Grove Depot interchange....

Some unusual trolley cars.

Borough of Blackpool, UK

Brill BulletsBruised & battered, the 1st production PCC, Car 1001 parked in Brooklyn, New York City

War Bond car in St. Paul, Minnesota

Who said it doesn't snow in New Orleans?

Bobby Ogage posted:

Some unusual trolley cars.

Borough of Blackpool, UK

Brill BulletsBruised & battered, the 1st production PCC, Car 1001 parked in Brooklyn, New York City

War Bond car in St. Paul, Minnesota

Who said it doesn't snow in New Orleans?

picture #2 sure looks like septa hi speed line to Norristown from 69th St.

Does anyone know the fate of the first PCC car ??  Should be nice to have.

PRRTrainguy posted:

Bobby Ogage posted:

Some unusual trolley cars.

Borough of Blackpool, UK

Brill BulletsBruised & battered,

picture #2 sure looks like septa hi speed line to Norristown from 69th St.

As a youngster riding the Blackpool "boat car" on an all day fall fan trip when it was on loan to SEPTA for the bicentennial was one of, if not the the most memorable times in my trolley riding life.  The fact that they re-gauged it for Pennsylvania wide gauge was absolutely amazing.

Too bad all I had was an Instamatic 20.   So much of Philly trolley infrastructure has disappeared since then.   We rode nearly all of the Luzerne Barn routes that day.  We ran the route 6 all the way to Ogontz and Chelten and then back to Erie avenue

We did the upper portion of the 23 car, and the the 53.  The car slipped and nearly stalled on the wet rail going up the Wayne avenue hill to the Carpenter loop on the 53,  we rode the route 60 to the Richmond Westmoreland loop, the 56 past "Bachman Bros Plastics"  and also up route 50 to the Olney cutback loop since there was a parade that blocked Rising Sun Avenue and the loop at Knorr.  Awesome memories of tracks and wires everywhere, remnants of switches into streets with long abandoned routes.  Trolley and trolley bus wires on Wyoming Avenue and track into the Cortland shops behind SEPTA headquarters on Wyoming.

And of course the tripleheader of the bullets for their last fan trip was fun.   I don't think our tired out fully loaded three car train could could hit 60.

jim pastorius posted:

Does anyone know the fate of the first PCC car ??  Should be nice to have.

Jim:

The first production PCC car (the car pictured on the left in that Brooklyn photo, Brooklyn & Queens Transit PCC #1001), has been restored and is at the Shoreline Trolley Museum in East Haven, Connecticut.  

However, the first PCC actually delivered to a transit company, Pittsburgh Railways #100, fell victim to the scrapper's torch in 1967 a few years after Allegheny County's new PAT authority had taken over the streetcar and bus lines and had rejected this car and many other sister cars from Pittsburgh Railway's early PCC orders.

Bill

Well, I am glad the original production PCC car is saved. As a kid I rode the old yellow cars with wicker seats. To me the PCC is such a classic design  from that era such as the DC-3, the jeep,  and the streamliners.

jim pastorius posted:

Well, I am glad the original production PCC car is saved. As a kid I rode the old yellow cars with wicker seats. To me the PCC is such a classic design  from that era such as the DC-3, the jeep,  and the streamliners.

Classic shapes.

GG1's, PCC cars and B model Macks. 

Trolley cars in Wisconsin.

Rt 10, HarwoodWatertown

Waukesha

Headed for East Troy

KenoshaMilwaukee

More trolley cars of Virginia.

Charlotsville Cars@ University of VirginiaGrove Avenue, RichmondRichmond

BethesdaWest Norfolk

Here are some trolley locomotives.

Here are two cutouts of 10-window Brill semi-convertible cars you can copy, print and assemble. Enlarge the size to make it easier. Lets see how yours turns out. Post some pictures here.

CG&W line in Shady Grove, Pa

Philly PCC at PA Trolley Museum this past weekend

Some toy trolley cars, most of which I cannot identify. Maybe you can.

CG&W #34 at the Pen Mar Station in 1922 with Bob Monigham

Trolley cars in Texas.

El Paso, TexasMcKinney Avenue, Dallas

New Safety Car, Fort Worth

San Antonio

Dallas

Dallas

El Paso

CG&W 34 at the Pen Mar Station in 1922 with H H Snowberger

Coffeyville, Kansas

More Kansas trolley cars.

CG&W #33 at PenMar in 1922

Trolley cars of Idaho:

Thanks for posting these photos--love this thread.

Bobby Ogage posted:

Here are two cutouts of 10-window Brill semi-convertible cars you can copy, print and assemble. Enlarge the size to make it easier. Lets see how yours turns out. Post some pictures here.

Thanks, Bobby Ogage, some how I missed this gem of a post.   It looks like the perfect distraction from weekend school work that I desperately need to get done ... coincidentally, I just got a new color toner cartridge!  Temptations!

Tomlinson Run Railroad

Scotie posted:

Thanks for posting these photos--love this thread.

Scotie,

I do, too.  While Bobby Ogage and MWB do the lion's share of the posting, I really look forward to getting these posts in my mailbox.  Looking at these photos, the variety of car styles and railway locations, and the history behind them really makes my day, and it is a welcome break from the work day crunch. The "randomness" makes it all the more fun.

Thanks for keeping this thread going, guys! 

Tomlinson Run Railroad

Can cable cars count as "trolleys"?  Here are some photos and an interesting background story about car #16 from San Francisco.  When retired, it was placed on top of the Emporium Department Store building for use in a children's play ground:

Source: SF Chronicle, 1948

The background story and another photo (citation: OpenSFHistory / wnp32.0100.jpg; Echeveriia-Brandt Collection):

Number 16 was in service until Feb. 13, 1941 when buses took over the route. It was in storage until 1948 when the Emporium Dept. store purchased it for their Kiddiland Complex on the roof.  It was there until the store closed in 1996; then, taken apart and stored.  The parts were too far gone due to being in storage and the car was literally buried at sea.  I seem to recall photos of some NJ/NY? subway cars that met a similar fate, except that that "burial" was done to create spaces to encourage sea life.

Tomlinson Run Railroad

My son gave me permission to post this photo of a trolley car from a trolley car. He took it last week on the Embarcadero in San Francisco.

Connecticut Yankee meets Southern Belle

Here are some trolley cars from the Dakotas.

Where is the trolley pole, or is this a horse drawn car?Lots of window awnings and odd auto parking arrangements.

Great flat car load. It looks to be a new Birney on the way to Sioux Falls.

Bobby Ogage posted:

Here are some trolley cars from the Dakotas.

Where is the trolley pole, or is this a horse drawn car?

I'm going to guess a battery car. 

 

Lots of window awnings and odd auto parking arrangements.

There was a considerable amount of experimentation with various parking schemes in the early days of automobiles.   

Great flat car load. It looks to be a new Birney on the way to Sioux Falls.

A Stone and Webster "turtleback".  The end profiles do look Birneyesque.  

Mitch 

Trolley cars of Nebraska.The aftermath of a tornado that struck Omaha in 1913.

This car is a mystery. I could not confirm that it ran somewhere in Nebraska. I would appreciate some help identifying this trolley car. I find the lights over the doors and the sloping car sides as interesting features. Could this car be a convertible?

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Omaha and Council Bluffs

From what I can see, #1014 was a 1917 company build (originally had brill 76E trucks with Westinghouse 506 motors).  

Montclaire posted:

From what I can see, #1014 was a 1917 company build (originally had brill 76E trucks with Westinghouse 506 motors).  

Car 1014 appears to be a sister of Car 1005.

Bobby Ogage posted:

Montclaire posted:

=snip=

From what I can see, #1014 was a 1917 company build (originally had brill 76E trucks with Westinghouse 506 motors).  

Car 1014 appears to be a sister of Car 1005.

Nice match!  I see that the Omaha & Council Bluffs example has four nearly spherical projections on the roof.  The preserved ex. doesn't.  I'm guessing they are some kind of ventilation system but I'm unfamiliar with them.  Can anyone illuminate me?

Tomlinson Run Railroad 

Yes, these are Brill-type ventilators.  Yesterday I was reading about them in Brill Magazine, but now I can't remember what the Brill Company called them.  Q-Car sells them as "mushroom"-type, Part CS399, $4.85 a dozen.  

I found the reference: p. 206 of the 1916 volume of BRILL MAGAZINE.  It was called the "Exhaust" ventilator:

"The roof, which is of the Brill Plain Arch type, is equipped with six Brill “Exhaust’’ Ventilators, equipped with adjustable registers. This ‘‘Exhaust” Ventilator is proving itself one of the most popular of Brill specialties.  It keeps the air in constant circulation, removing the vitiated air and at the same time excluding rain or snow and, in winter time, preventing too sudden changes in the temperature of the car."

Here is the car that was being discussed, a 37' lightweight 40-passenger convertible car that rode on a single Brill Radiax truck:

The initial order was for two, then the Bristol & Plainville Tramway ordered five more.  I would love to find a picture of one of these with the sides off.

Trolley cars of Utah.

Trolley cars in Montana.

First Trolley in Missoula.This car needs rescuing before it is too far gone.I would love to see this shot in color. It looks like a Thomas Kincaid painting.Check the hotel sign to the left. It highlights that the hotel has hot water and heat!

Having investigated the trolley car systems in most of the USA, I find that Brill cars appear to be the most prolific. Why is this? What did Brill have that the other companies did not?

CG&W #33 at the Pen Mar Substation in 1930

I wonder how many trolley cars there are preserved / restored in the museums of Connecticut, Pennsylvania and Maine?

The following web site is a list of all the preserved streetcars in North America. You can sort by state and count the cars preserved in those states. 

http://www.bera.org/pnaerc.html

Trolley cars in Colorado.

Trolley cars in Michigan.

Duluth InclinePark Pt FiremenYpsi-Ann 1896 Electric Car

Trolley cars in Arizona.

Trolleys in Massachusetts.

Bobby Ogage posted:

Trolleys in Massachusetts.

Hey Bobby Ogage, there's some nice age and manufacturer diversity in your Massachustts trolley post today.  This Braves Field photo is winderful from a historical standpoint and great to have in color!  Neat looking (leaf?) suspension, too, shown on those trucks.

Tomlinson Run Railroad

Trolley cars in Maryland.

Ellicot CityThe Rockville lineRockville Line Wreck @ Montrose & Rt 355Washington, Baltimore & Annapolis Electric Railway

Washington, Baltimore & Annapolis Electric Railway

Trolley cars in Georgia.

I find this poster irresistible, so I am going to put it on the side of a building on my layout.

Sunbury & Northumberland

Trolley cars in Hawaii. Great photos of store fronts.

Some great old photographs.  I've always enjoyed viewing pictures like these since they often show downtown life as it once was before the malls and Internet changed things forever.  Trolley pictures taken in cities such as Cleveland, etc. often show the old movie theatre marquees most of which have disappeared from our streetscapes.  Thanks for posting. 

Since I am an old codger I remember downtown Pittsburgh like that. Hustle, bustle, traffic, people carrying packages squeezing in crowded street cars. The  cars starting and stopping jostling everyone then  booking along an open track with the car rocking and rolling. Especially after work it would rock you to sleep. At one time Pgh. had 4 or 5 dept. stores and many restaurants geared for workers and shoppers. Miss that.

jim pastorius posted:

Since I am an old codger I remember downtown Pittsburgh like that. Hustle, bustle, traffic, people carrying packages squeezing in crowded street cars. The  cars starting and stopping jostling everyone then  booking along an open track with the car rocking and rolling. Especially after work it would rock you to sleep. At one time Pgh. had 4 or 5 dept. stores and many restaurants geared for workers and shoppers. Miss that.

Philly used to be like that...

Mitch 

Trolley cars that once roamed Long Island, New York.New York & Long Island Traction Company

Huntington Railroad CarNew York & Long Island Traction Car @ Mineola          New York & North Shore Traction Car in Port WashingtonNY&Queens Car @164th St & Union Tpk 1937

New York & Queens Car Stuck In SnowHuntington Railroad Car On Rt 110 @ Long Island Rail Road OverpassSteinway Car Likely On Northern Blvd

Battery Car For Suffolk Traction That Ran In Patchogue

Wonderful pictures!  Thanks for posting.  I lived on Long Island (both Nassau & Suffolk counties) from 1964 to 2015.   Seeing areas of Long Island as they once were prior to all the building was nice.   Ron Ziel's Steel Rails To The Sunrise is also a good source of old Long Island images. 

What do you call that style of roof like on MWB's photo of the  Sunbury & Northumberland car?

Bruce Clouette posted:

What do you call that style of roof like on MWB's photo of the  Sunbury & Northumberland car?

Bombay roof.  I suspect it was called that because it has a sort of South Asian look to it... 

https://books.google.com/books...ombay+roof+streetcar

Mitch 

A picture showing an Erie & Conneaut Transit Co. trolley heading eastbound off the old high level bridge in Conneaut, OH.  This car would have gone east toward Girard, PA ending its trip in Erie, PA.  An approx. date for the picture is 1905.   This high level bridge was replaced in 1922 by a concrete viaduct erected just south of this location. 

Trolley cars in Minnesota.

Inter-campus line car arriving at the St. Paul University of Minnesota campus, c. 1945

Opening Grand Avenue Line, St. Paul, Feb. 22, 1890

St. Paul to Stillwater Car 1917

Western Avenue, St. Paul, 1941

Twin City Rapid Transit Company

like trolley cars ?  then check out this cool trolley layout... https://youtu.be/mGpQ1PJnYig

Trolley cars in Iowa.

jim pastorius posted:

Since I am an old codger I remember downtown Pittsburgh like that. Hustle, bustle, traffic, people carrying packages squeezing in crowded street cars. The  cars starting and stopping jostling everyone then  booking along an open track with the car rocking and rolling. Especially after work it would rock you to sleep. At one time Pgh. had 4 or 5 dept. stores and many restaurants geared for workers and shoppers. Miss that.

Jim: 

Is that how you remember downtown Pittsburgh was like?

Note the early PCC, the Iron City Beer Sign and the Kaufmann's Department Store clock (the famous meeting place)!

And what could be more Pittsburgh-esque than this shot of a McKeesport-bound PCC streetcar passing under a Union Railroad Slag Dump Train? 

Thanks to Jim Holland for the photos.

Bill (another old codger)

Oh yes !! On a rainy day you could literally walk across town ducking from one building to the next. In the late 60s even I was selling industrial chemicals calling on the corporate purchasing depts in downtown. I spent one day a week there, could have spent 2-3 days. Nothing now. I have a video-off the internet  which shows downtown San Francisco in 1906 two days before the big quake !  Wagons, autos , street cars and people in the street looking like ants.  Unbelievable and it would all change within days.

If you look closely The name Frank & Seder is visible on the building to the left, across Smithfield Street from Kaufmann’s. Frank & Seder was one of Pittsburgh’s department stores back then. 

CG&W Trolley coming into the Square in Greencastle, Pa

AmFlyer posted:

If you look closely The name Frank & Seder is visible on the building to the left, across Smithfield Street from Kaufmann’s. Frank & Seder was one of Pittsburgh’s department stores back then. 

Tom:

Good catch!  When I used to go downtown shopping with Mom (we rode the #53 Carrick streetcar) she would have to drag me into Frank & Seder's because I wanted to go to Kaufmann's instead because Frank & Seder's didn't sell trains (or any toys, IIRC) while Kaufmann's did sell trains and toys.

Bill

Actually for a while they sold Gilbert trains and toys. My dad bought one of my 1956 Christmas gifts there, a Gilbert HO train set. 

When Frank & Seder went out of business floors 4 through 7 were rented by an engineering firm that I joined on graduation from college. The building was known then as 441 Smithfield street. 

Sorry for the deviation from trolley’s, but I did ride the street car to work from the Castle Shannon municipal building stop. 

More trolley cars in Connecticut.

Connecticut # 1800 at Farmington Avenue & Broad Street, Hartford, March 16, 1935

WftTrains posted:

jim pastorius posted:

Since I am an old codger I remember downtown Pittsburgh like that. Hustle, bustle, traffic, people carrying packages squeezing in crowded street cars. The  cars starting and stopping jostling everyone then  booking along an open track with the car rocking and rolling. Especially after work it would rock you to sleep. At one time Pgh. had 4 or 5 dept. stores and many restaurants geared for workers and shoppers. Miss that.

Jim: 

Is that how you remember downtown Pittsburgh was like?

Note the early PCC, the Iron City Beer Sign and the Kaufmann's Department Store clock (the famous meeting place)!

And what could be more Pittsburgh-esque than this shot of a McKeesport-bound PCC streetcar passing under a Union Railroad Slag Dump Train? 

Thanks to Jim Holland for the photos.

Bill (another old codger)

Second image not found, but by the description I'd guess it was taken near Buttermilk Hollow Rd .

Trolley at Shady Grove, PA in 1914

A Brooklyn Birney that I am working on.....Q Car truck and parts, Corgi body.

Trolleys in Indiana.

CG&W Trolley at Pen-Mar, PA

Two bits sez that last pic was touched up for a newspaper.  And poorly, at that. 

Mitch 

Trolleys in Tennessee.

Trolleys in Washington and Reading, Pa. It's hard to find pictures of trolley cars in Washington State, so I combined them.

Washington

Reading, PaReading, Pa

Reading, Pa

Reading, Pa

Reading, Pa

Bobby Ogage posted:

More trolley cars in Connecticut.

The destination signs on the cars in these two pictures list towns in Massachusetts, not Connecticut.

MELGAR

Pretty cool photos, though, and not too far from Connecticut.  I like the running board on the work unit - made over from an open car? BTW, the Grafton and Upton (top photo) is still in business as a freight-only short line; electrification ended in the 1920s.

Hey Bobby  OGage, I'm enjoying your posts...but your latest (Wyoming, Washington and Reading) is wrong.  The first photo, labeled "Wyoming PCC", is from El Paso, showing #1516 parked at the Cotton St. Barn of El Paso Electric.  These cars, originally from San Diego, spent most of their life in El Paso, working the International Line between El Paso and Juarez, Chih.  They ran there until about 1974.  After a long period of storage, they are presently in Pennsylvania, being rebuilt to run again in El Paso.  

Please keep posting, Bobby.  It's great to see what once was.

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Bobby Ogage posted:

Trolleys in Wyoming, Washington and reading, Pa. It's hard to find pictures of trolley cars in Wyoming and Washington State, so I combined them Reading, Pa.Wyoming PCCWashingtonReading, PaReading, Pa

Reading, Pa

Reading, Pa

Reading, Pa

Ha! I thought you were listing three PA locations and was expecting pictures from the PTM (Washington, PA) and the ECTM (Wyoming Valley)  

Bobby Ogage posted:

Trolleys in Wyoming, Washington and reading, Pa. It's hard to find pictures of trolley cars in Wyoming and Washington State, so I combined them Reading,

Bobby, some misinformation there.  Your fourth photo is of Scranton Transit electromobile #505, currently under restoration at www.ectma.org  Your seventh photo is of a former Reading Transit & Light #511, I believe an Osgood Bradley built car, but the photo was taken in Skippack, Pa.  Car #511 has been at one of two locations in Skippack, both restaurants, since the 1980s.  

Please correct your post.

Montclaire posted:

Bobby Ogage posted:

Trolleys in Wyoming, Washington and reading, Pa. It's hard to find pictures of trolley cars in Wyoming and Washington State, so I combined them Reading,

Bobby, some misinformation there.  Your fourth photo is of Scranton Transit electromobile #505, currently under restoration at www.ectma.org  Your seventh photo is of a former Reading Transit & Light #511, I believe an Osgood Bradley built car, but the photo was taken in Skippack, Pa.  Car #511 has been at one of two locations in Skippack, both restaurants, since the 1980s.  

Please correct your post.

Plus the PCCs are in El Paso, Texas.   

Mitch 

You guys are sharp. Both of you passed the test. I knew these cars were wrongly categorized after I posted them, but not before. Good catches guys! I updated my original post. The bottom line is that I have not been able to find pictures of any trolley cars that operated in Wyoming.

El Paso, Texas PCC

Scranton Transit Electromobile

Horse Drawn Trolley arriving at the Buena Vista Spring Hotel at Pen-Mar PA

These are trolleys that run / ran in Oregon.

Bobby Ogage posted:

You guys are sharp. Both of you passed the test. I knew these cars were wrongly categorized after I posted them, but not before. Good catches guys! I updated my original post. The bottom line is that I have not been able to find pictures of any trolley cars that operated in Wyoming.

Gotcha covered!

Sheridan Interurban Railway 
#200 in an American Car Co. builders photo 
1911 
Bill Volkmer collection

Sheridan Street Railway 
Sheridan Street Railway streetcar 105 
circa 1915 
Stephen M. Scalzo collection

Courtesy of http://www.newdavesrailpix.com/

Mitch

Greg Nagy posted:

 

Note the early PCC, the Iron City Beer Sign and the Kaufmann's Department Store clock (the famous meeting place)!

And what could be more Pittsburgh-esque than this shot of a McKeesport-bound PCC streetcar passing under a Union Railroad Slag Dump Train? 

 

Thanks to Jim Holland for the photos.

Bill (another old codger)

Second image not found, but by the description I'd guess it was taken near Buttermilk Hollow Rd .

Hi Greg:

Yes, you are correct and I have now inserted the missing photo in my original post above.

Bill

Bobby Ogage posted:

These are trolleys that run / ran in Oregon.

Bobby:

Looks like another PCC car got identified with the wrong state!  The PCC car above is not from Oregon as no city in Oregon ever operated PCC cars.  I believe it is a San Francisco muni car.  Looks like it was ready for the scrap yard or a rebuild when this photo was taken.

Bill 

That picture was taken at a mechanical museum, which includes trolleys, along interstate 5.  I think it is Brooks, Oregon.  About 60 miles south of Portland. It is a San Francisco PCC car.  I cannot read the number, but it looks like a car in the 1016 to 1040 series, the last order of new PCC cars in US. 

Attached is a picture showing a Cleveland center door street car no. 27, probably from the Euclid Ave Line, sitting on a flatcar in the NKP Conneaut yards.  I believe it was being transported to a museum for restoration.  Date of photo is Oct. 2, 1960 and the young fella is me at 12 years old.  Note the retired NKP Berkshire in the background.  There were many more lined up behind her. 

That is Shaker Heights Rapid Transit 27. Originally and currently it was Cleveland Railways 1227.  It is currently at the Seashore Trolley Musuem in Kennebunkport, Maine. Seashore is the third museum to own the car. It was originally purchased by National Capital Trolley Museum. Seashore restored the car and it currently operational.  

David Johnston posted:

That is Shaker Heights Rapid Transit 27. Originally and currently it was Cleveland Railways 1227.  It is currently at the Seashore Trolley Musuem in Kennebunkport, Maine. Seashore is the third museum to own the car. It was originally purchased by National Capital Trolley Museum. Seashore restored the car and it currently operational.  

Thanks so much for the history on this car.  It's good to hear that it has been restored and operational.  A closer inspection of the picture I posted shows some of the shop buildings in the background that once existed on the former NKP property.  Most of the yard tracks are gone along with all the shop buildings, roundhouse and turntable and the overhead walk bridge.  Not much left anymore. 

Trolley cars that once ran in the District of Columbia.

Bobby Ogage posted:

Trolley cars that once ran in the District of Columbia.

Nice photos and here’s a couple of photos of the trolleys that now run in DC that I took the other day while visiting.  First photo shows a streetcar heading in the other direction (east) from the auto I was riding in on either H Street or Benning Road.  The second photo is the back end of one heading west toward Union Station.  That’s the best I could do shooting from the front seat of a moving automobile at dusk.

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BTW we also drove on a street that still had the old "3-rail" track.  I realize its only 2-rail with a slot in the middle for the electrical pickup plow but us old Lionel guys like to call it 3-rail!

Bill

Trolleys that ran in Montreal.