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Attached is a picture showing a Cleveland center door street car no. 27, probably from the Euclid Ave Line, sitting on a flatcar in the NKP Conneaut yards.  I believe it was being transported to a museum for restoration.  Date of photo is Oct. 2, 1960 and the young fella is me at 12 years old.  Note the retired NKP Berkshire in the background.  There were many more lined up behind her. 

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David Johnston posted:

That is Shaker Heights Rapid Transit 27. Originally and currently it was Cleveland Railways 1227.  It is currently at the Seashore Trolley Musuem in Kennebunkport, Maine. Seashore is the third museum to own the car. It was originally purchased by National Capital Trolley Museum. Seashore restored the car and it currently operational.  

Thanks so much for the history on this car.  It's good to hear that it has been restored and operational.  A closer inspection of the picture I posted shows some of the shop buildings in the background that once existed on the former NKP property.  Most of the yard tracks are gone along with all the shop buildings, roundhouse and turntable and the overhead walk bridge.  Not much left anymore. 

Bobby Ogage posted:

Trolley cars that once ran in the District of Columbia.

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Nice photos and here’s a couple of photos of the trolleys that now run in DC that I took the other day while visiting.  First photo shows a streetcar heading in the other direction (east) from the auto I was riding in on either H Street or Benning Road.  The second photo is the back end of one heading west toward Union Station.  That’s the best I could do shooting from the front seat of a moving automobile at dusk.

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BTW we also drove on a street that still had the old "3-rail" track.  I realize its only 2-rail with a slot in the middle for the electrical pickup plow but us old Lionel guys like to call it 3-rail!

Bill

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Firewood posted:
Fort William, Canada, 1918. A little underbody detail:

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Needs better kingpin screws. 

Bobby Ogage posted:

Trolleys that ran in Montreal.

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Fascinating Montreal idiosyncracy:  No headlights, unless the car was running out to the sticks.  Instead, they relied on a series of dash lights under the windscreen and streetlights for visibility after dark...  

Mitch 

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M. Mitchell Marmel posted:
Firewood posted:
Fort William, Canada, 1918. A little underbody detail:

Image may contain: outdoor

Needs better kingpin screws. 

Bobby Ogage posted:

Trolleys that ran in Montreal.

streetcar-4753-20

Fascinating Montreal idiosyncracy:  No headlights, unless the car was running out to the sticks.  Instead, they relied on a series of dash lights under the windscreen and streetlights for visibility after dark...  

Mitch 

The lady on the 2nd story balcony certainly has a good view of the wreck scene.  The car must have shook the building when it turned over. 

 

Allegheny48 posted:
M. Mitchell Marmel posted:
Firewood posted:
Fort William, Canada, 1918. A little underbody detail:

Image may contain: outdoor

Needs better kingpin screws. 

 

The lady on the 2nd story balcony certainly has a good view of the wreck scene.  The car must have shook the building when it turned over. 

 

Judging by her stance, I'm guessing she's telling somebody to get that mess off her porch. I see some bricks on the sidewalk at the left of the photo with whole courses missing above the broken store window, and the trolley looks like it's  protruding into the store. Talk about yer window-shoppin', eh...

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Bobby Ogage posted:

MWB,

I did some editing of your picture post because this car is similar to those that ran on the New York & North Shore Traction of Long Island. What do you think that the unusual window separation width between the 3rd & 4th windows from the left is for?

 

The dead light panel between the 3rd and 4th  window is probably the location of a interior bulkhead, usually separating a smoking and non smoking sections of the car. The extra space is needed because with walkover seats more space is needed at a bulkhead 

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