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Tom, funny you should mention if I have my layout built. We have to tear down our garage because of mold. So, I proposed building a room onto the back of the garage; which will be 20’x20’. Demolition will start the week of 9-14-2020. I have a track plan worked out so the outlets, lighting, etc. will be installed based on the parameters of the layout.  Can’t wait!

Taking a long view, perhaps mold is your best friend -- "enabling" planning and construction of the layout of your dreams with a reason acceptable to your wife. 20x20 isn't a mere layout, it's an EMPIRE.  Preside over it well.

All the best,

Mike Mottler    LCCA 12394
mottlerm@gmail.com

Good advice tncentrr for all.

I agree on big purchases while still working. In my case, no Z4000 or Big Boy, but I've been slowly stocking up on Lionel prewar T-Rail track as my last big purchase(s).

I think I'm a good, efficient user of time. As a younger person I read the 60-Minute Manager (or maybe it was the One-Minute Manager)...either way, I am an early riser and generally don't like to waste time. At work, I always had a "To-Do" list before it was trendy. So many of the folks here who have already retired seem to have a recurring theme that they have been so busy, so time management skills seem to be just as important or maybe more important in retirement. 

Tom 

@RichardVB posted:

How about a quick 'yes' or 'no' poll?   I turned 55 yesterday (September 6th).  I go back to work tomorrow (today - Monday -  is Labor Day).  I can afford to retire.  Should I?  

p.s.  My dream layout was built this year....... 

If "can afford to retire" includes the ability to pay for health insurance until you qualify for Medicare, you have investments and/or a secure income stream that will keep up with inflation, and you aren't excited by what you do every day to earn money, then YES!  Too many people have waited to retire only to lose their health, their partner, or their life before getting to enjoy it - don't be one of them if you can help it.

@Mallard4468 posted:

If "can afford to retire" includes the ability to pay for health insurance until you qualify for Medicare, you have investments and/or a secure income stream that will keep up with inflation, and you aren't excited by what you do every day to earn money, then YES!  Too many people have waited to retire only to lose their health, their partner, or their life before getting to enjoy it - don't be one of them if you can help it.

I would agree. If you can manage, and after you weigh the pros and cons...if all seems good, I would say "Yes, go and retire."

Tom 

Yes, You are never promised tomorrow. I retired at 55, after 37 years on the RR. My family medical history is not the best. Everyone on my dads side of the family had cancer. Dad was the oldest and died at 63. both my sisters had cancer as well. Life is too short and we all have worked hard to be able to enjoy life. I read a statement that said,  "you will never hear anyone complain about not spending more time in the office, compared to spending time with family."

My financial advisor, always told me, don't works so hard at making a living,  you for to live. I have enjoyed each and everyday of retirement and look back with no regrets leaving early. 

@Mike Wyatt posted:

"Please post some pictures of your layout when you can."

OK....you asked for it!

nov418 5Coal City 2First Ave.REX SectionCar Yard 2Mt Edith TunnelsAltoona Heights 1

 

Gorgeous, Mike.

Love that Plasticville church. Here it is on my layout:

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I think it is one of the more realistic looking Plasticville structures. It looks a lot like the First Presbyterian Church of Yorktown that my wife and I attend. Arnold

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The switches on the "main line" are Fastrack and so those are standard lanterns.  I add a q-tip plastic shaft w/ a Lionel switch remotes number on each one so I can remember which of the remotes to trip.   (I also use the q-tip shafts w/ red painted bands to mark yard limits to show how far a train can "park" near a switch.)

I hide the tubular track switch machines using either an  "Ameritowne Garage" (SKU 505), or I "scratch build" a small structure out of leftover kit wall panels.  The switch machine light (w/ the colored lens removed) provides the structure lighting (LEDs much preferred for heat reasons!).

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@Mallard4468 posted:

If "can afford to retire" includes the ability to pay for health insurance until you qualify for Medicare, you have investments and/or a secure income stream that will keep up with inflation, and you aren't excited by what you do every day to earn money, then YES!  Too many people have waited to retire only to lose their health, their partner, or their life before getting to enjoy it - don't be one of them if you can help it.

I agree, retire as soon as you can unless you love what you are doing.  My wife's grandfather passed from a massive heart attack the day after he turned in his retirement papers.  My grandfathers passed at age 56 and 65, and a grandmother at 65.  If I last another year and a half, I will have passed all of them.  Yes, we have better health care now, but none of us know how long we will be here.  I am getting off the Forum now to do some more calculating so with the help of our financial professional prove to my wife she can retire too.  While 3 1/2 years younger, her health is far worse than mine.

@tncentrr posted:

As has been mentioned above, consult your financial advisor first, just for your own peace of mind. I had one provided to me by the company I worked for. If he/she says it is ok, then go ahead and retire. Spend time in the train room or railfanning or whatever you enjoy doing.

Absolutely!!  If your advisor says you can; then do it! 

Our financial advisor is moving some of our investments, and I am looking closely at what we spend to show my wife she could retire also though she is only 60.  Her verbal "prenuptial agreement" 36 years ago was to ask me to take care of all the finances, so I can't blame her for being concerned.  She never logs onto any of our accounts or even looks at the checkbook register on the rare occasion when she writes a check.

@PRR8976 posted:

I was wondering how much train related stuff retirees get to do once they are retired...like what's your "Train To Do List" like? 

 

For those soon to retire, any big plans?

 

I need 7.5 years if all goes well. Seems like 750 years sometimes!

 

Tom 

Hi Tom,

Just retired 7/31/20 after 44+ years with Westchester County.

 

@NYC Fan posted:

Hi Tom,

Just retired 7/31/20 after 44+ years with Westchester County.

 

Ahhh. my old Putnam Division buddy Skip! 

Congratulations on your well-deserved accomplishment. Believe me, I know it's hard to work for a local, county or state government. 

Since I've asked this to everyone else, do you plan on relocating anytime soon and if so where are you considering if you can share?

Tom 

 

@Norton posted:

Using buildings over the switch machines is brilliant Mike. 

Pete

I understand why one would choose to hide 022 switch machines but, personally, I would never do that because I love the look of those switch machines. I also have the switches and lanterns set so the green light means the train will go straight, and the red light means the train will take the curve, through the switch. I find this to be very helpful during operating sessions.

I know the switch machines have a toy-like appearance, and are way too big to be scale, but notwithstanding these things, I still love the look of them.

One of the charms of model railroading is that you, the layout owner, are the captain of your ship, and can make your own choices like these. Arnold

 

Wow - a resounding 'yes' to my query about retirement.  Thank-you for your responses and considerate additional thoughts supporting your answers!  Know your input is appreciated and my very best wishes are sent your way for a loooooong, healthy and happy retirement.

I'm off to run some trains now and will share some photos of my dream layout.

All the best!
-Richard

@PRR8976 posted:

Ahhh. my old Putnam Division buddy Skip! 

Congratulations on your well-deserved accomplishment. Believe me, I know it's hard to work for a local, county or state government. 

Since I've asked this to everyone else, do you plan on relocating anytime soon and if so where are you considering if you can share?

Tom 

 

Hi Tom,

No plan to relocate as such. May become snow birds, but will stay in the area most of the year.

I spend a little time everyday in my train room. I haven't had enough time to get bored yet.

@Mark Boyce posted:

That's a nice layout you have, Richard!  Looks like a lot of action!

Thank-you Mark. 

The idea was to run multiple trains individually for the grandkids.  No issues with TMCC/Lionchief I know, but in the event I wanted to kick it up 'old school' with my ZW and engines I had from my childhood, I have the following 'blocks' set up:   

1: oval   
2: figure 8   
3:  the balance of the layout. 

I also 'blocked' 3 sidings.   

Further, there are the accessories you see so, yes, indeed - lots of action.   I added an MRC City and Country Sound Station too (eBay purchase), so the little ones could enjoy!  https://www.amazon.ca/-/fr/MRC...tation/dp/B000A3AC14

I now know TMCC has been around a long time, however I entered the hobby (again) last year and was so impressed that I could run multiple locos on the same track at the same time!   

The 50th Anniversary Set is my favorite!     http://www.lionel.com/products...t-loco-5344-6-31705/      I managed to find the Hillside Diner car too - to complete the set.   http://www.lionel.com/products...-diner-2629-6-15405/         The 'Heavyweight' cars are something else! 

I just turned 55 and, like many of us who were fortunate enough to have loving parents, mom is here to see the layout, regrettably, dad passed away 8 years ago;  I'm sure he would have enjoyed the set!

 

Keep well,
-Richard

Richard VB,

I retired from my regular high stress job at age 52, after 28 years of it. I did not retire super rich, but comfortably. Almost three decades of 12 hour days, and half a day's work every weekend,  were enough for me.

That was 14 years ago, and I have never ever regretted it!   

My Partners were really shocked when I retired.  They claimed, "You can't do this!  You're are still a young man.  You are in your peak earning years!"

I laughed and told them, "If you guys want to stay here another 15 years, and die at your desks, making other people wealthy, or contract diabetes, cancer, chronic hypertension, heart disease, or any of the other diseases that come from sitting for 40 years at a desk, then go for it.  Me?  Starting tomorrow, I'm gonna do whatever I want, whenever I want, for the rest of my life!!"

The biggest critic was my father, a guy who grew up starving during the depression, joined the Navy in WWII just to get three meals a day (he weighed 85 pounds), went to college and medical school mostly on the GI Bill, and then was still working as a doctor every day at age 86.  He was outraged.    In his view, any man without a job was a bum!

The best part of being retired relatively young is that you feel great every day.  You want to go out and do physical things, keep learning, making money on the side with interesting or easier jobs if you want to or not.  

And surprise, unless your regular job was a government job, then a few years later, at age 61, you can start drawing social security.

Yes, I live in a 2,500 square foot house, instead of a 4,500 square foot house like my father and former partners, but I couldn't care less.  I once had a huge house, and found that there were three of four rooms that I  never went into anyway.

My advice.  RETIRE NOW!

Mannyrock

 

 

 

 

@Mannyrock posted:

Richard VB,

I retired from my regular high stress job at age 52, after 28 years of it. I did not retire super rich, but comfortably. Almost three decades of 12 hour days, and half a day's work every weekend,  were enough for me.

That was 14 years ago, and I have never ever regretted it!   

My Partners were really shocked when I retired.  They claimed, "You can't do this!  You're are still a young man.  You are in your peak earning years!"

I laughed and told them, "If you guys want to stay here another 15 years, and die at your desks, making other people wealthy, or contract diabetes, cancer, chronic hypertension, heart disease, or any of the other diseases that come from sitting for 40 years at a desk, then go for it.  Me?  Starting tomorrow, I'm gonna do whatever I want, whenever I want, for the rest of my life!!"

The biggest critic was my father, a guy who grew up starving during the depression, joined the Navy in WWII just to get three meals a day (he weighed 85 pounds), went to college and medical school mostly on the GI Bill, and then was still working as a doctor every day at age 86.  He was outraged.    In his view, any man without a job was a bum!

The best part of being retired relatively young is that you feel great every day.  You want to go out and do physical things, keep learning, making money on the side with interesting or easier jobs if you want to or not.  

And surprise, unless your regular job was a government job, then a few years later, at age 61, you can start drawing social security.

Yes, I live in a 2,500 square foot house, instead of a 4,500 square foot house like my father and former partners, but I couldn't care less.  I once had a huge house, and found that there were three of four rooms that I  never went into anyway.

My advice.  RETIRE NOW!

Mannyrock

 

 

 

 

You're a wise man.

I'm retiring in a few months because while I like what I do, I'm beginning to lose respect for those I'm doing it for. Working from home these past few months has given me somewhat of a preview of retirement (no useless micro-managers interrupting  me) and it's not the "nothing-to-do" life I was afraid it would be.

AGHR,

You have raised a very cogent point.  By getting physically away from your office job for a few months, you suddenly gain a different perspective and see the big picture differently.   "What the heck am I doing?  How many good healthy years do I have left?  Gosh, what really makes me happy every day costs almost nothing!  What collective good have I accomplished for anybody by grinding it out at that desk every day? Is this all that I'll remember when I'm 70?"

You may recall that back in the late 1990s and early 2000s, "sabbaticals from work" were all the vogue in big corporate America.  Psychologists had found that letting people go on sabbaticals contributed to their long term happiness and productivity.  So, many of the big accounting and law firms suddenly adopted policies that after 10 years of work, everyone would enjoy a mandatory 3 month sabbatical with pay, and after 20 years with the firm, everyone would enjoy a mandatory 6  month sabbitical with pay.  This was so that people could "explore their untapped potential" and "find fresh insights" to life, and "travel to other places and interact with other cultures", and a dozen other corporate buzz phrases.

Well, this policy went on for about 5 years, . . . .and then very abruptly stopped.  

Why?   Because these firms found out, to their shock, that after taking their sabbaticals with pay, lots of senior workers and executives decided never to come back!!!   They had seen how other people live, very happily, with lower stress and less pay, but with more time for vacations, family, hobbies and everything else, and so they just quit their high stress jobs, sold their overblown houses, down sized their lives,  and found easier ways to make a happy living.

Mannyrock

 

 

 

 

 

@AGHRMatt posted:

You're a wise man.

I'm retiring in a few months because while I like what I do, I'm beginning to lose respect for those I'm doing it for. Working from home these past few months has given me somewhat of a preview of retirement (no useless micro-managers interrupting  me) and it's not the "nothing-to-do" life I was afraid it would be.

Matt,

  Congrats on your near retirement. Keep us posted as you get through that if you could. I agree that one of the hidden benefits of working from home has been the ability for some of us to do a "test-drive" of sorts on hopefully being able to retire soon. If you are married or have a significant other, I think it may also help that person to adjust to having us around suddenly. 

Tom 

 

Go forth young man and retire! It's great! I retired in my 50s. Thought I might want to own a car dealership so I sold cars for a year to explore it. Felt so bad for the exploitation and bull**** put on the salesmen, Honda dealership, I decided it just wasn't worth it. Yes I sold a lot and got the rewards. Still not worth it.

Been retired since Jan3, 2007 and get in all the train time I want.  I also play golf and work at 2 local golf courses so that cuts into my RR time, sometimes.  Might have to give the golf up!

WOW, been 5 years since I posted this.

Don't work at either golf course now and haven't played golf since before Christmas 2019, but took up shooting/collecting firearms almost 3 years ago!  Still build/run my trains and layout.  I told myself several engines ago that I was done buying them.  That didn't last long, I've bought 3 in the last 3 months.

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