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Well Tom,

My list was long. It covered two complete prewar layouts, one Std Gauge and one O-Gauge.

It took me twenty-five years after retirement. I'm grateful and very blessed to have retired early. Now I'm a shut-in with advanced Parkinsons. I cannot do much anymore. Both layouts were sold complete with accessories. At least I have a few trains left on my shelves to admire.

My advice to anyone who will listen. Start as soon as you can as you never know what's waiting down the road.

 

"Pappy"

Pappy,

  I hope to follow your advice and I hope you can stay as healthy as possible. Would love to know what you kept to admire!

 

Bob,

  I learned about 25 years ago that golf was not for me. One day, my co-worker bought a golf club (anybody remember Herman's?) when we went to lunch. We came back to our empty college campus (it was deserted during the Summer). She said take a swing. On the second try, the ball took off and went pretty far...out of literally nowhere came a woman from around a corner...after several bounces it hit her on the hip (luckily not hurt!). My golf career ended before it started which is probably good for mankind.

 

Tom

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This my friend in Model Trains is a very Good Question? Before You Retire, and remember this, IF You are Married, Do Your BIG Spending While You are Working Full Time. If You say to the Wife, I Really want a $1500-$2500 Lionel Engine, once Retired, on a Retired income, She will Lay Down The Law.....7 Years from now, Who knows what will be in demand. So, my advice, enjoy your work, purchase what you want for your Model Railroad while you can afford the trains, etc. After you retire, you can enjoy the hobby with others and spend the rest of the time with Grand Kids, Your Kids, and most Important, Your Wife.

You Measure Your Wealth, By Your Health....(Unless You Inherit A Fortune, or Win The a Lottery), Good Question, Happy Railroading!  Enjoy the Moment...

Health is the most important thing so hopefully we can all stay healthy to enjoy our retirement! I will retire sometime between tomorrow and three years from tomorrow. I am slightly past normal retirement age but have been asked to stay on. So each morning I ask myself if I still want to go to work, so far the answer continues to be yes since I enjoy what I do. 

As far as planning I continue to add carefully to my collection. We spent 2014 in temporary housing while remodeling our home for retirement. We created a 17x20 space for a layout plus a separate area for A 6x12 early 50's style layout. I am planning to have a detailed high rail layout custom built and installed in the train room because it will never get done if I try to do it myself. I hope to have it under contract within 30 days and installed by December. Good thing I am still working, the price of these layouts is unbelievable!

I am really fortunate since my wife likes the trains and is completely supportive, however when I told her the estimate for the custom layout she thought I had lost my mind! Her vision is to travel more when I retire, my objective is to never travel again after 150,000 miles per year for the last 40 years. I have about 5mm airline miles to use to do some travelling. I also golf, but am not a fanatic. We collect wine and some whisky so we travel some with that hobby. Running trains with a good glass of wine in hand is most enjoyable.The trains are S gauge and mostly Flyer and "Flyonel" so the space demands  are manageable with that scale.  

I turn 62 in June.......I've been at the same job for 32 years......I average every 4th weekend and every 10th night Monday through Thursday........it tough running with the 30 and 40 year olds and I'm starting to wear down.........I have given notice:

 

December 2016, I give up weekend call.

December 2018, I give up weeknight call.

December 2020, I give up hospital work and go part time in the office. I'll be 67 at that time.....and part time in the office a few days a week will be fun.

 

I have been working hard to stay healthy....but you never know.......I hope that I will be able to play....

 

Peter

 

www.rneph.com

 

 

 

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Building the remaining segment of the layout, installed Tortouse motors to switches(LH & RH) and wyes  on the section built, installed some wiring for toggle switches  for block system, soldered 12 inch 18 gauge solid wire track leads every 8 to 9 feet, and keeping myself mentally stimulated also enjoy reading train magazines, historical magazines and historical books and spending time on this Forum, retired two years ago.

I am 66 years old and "semi-retired." I was a co-founder of the company I am with.  I work only two days a week, and want to go to less, but . . . the company is like a child: it's yours forever.

 

I spend what time I can on trains and model building, but it is not enough for me, and often very frustrating that I can't spend more.  

 

The problem really is not the small amount of time I spend at work.  Twenty years ago I saw my doctor maybe once ever two or three years.  Now I  see him maybe eight times a year.  And my wife is the same.  And we go to the pharmacy at least once or twice a week.  And errands seem to take so much longer to get done.  

 

I am not complaining.  This is reality - the way it is.  Older equipment works slower and requires more maintenance.  All the extra time required comes out of what is left over for hobbies.  It is what it is: the alternative is less preferable by far.

 

I am too old to lay on a concrete floor under a seven liter supercharged engine and tighten main bearing caps to the correct torque, but I do wish I had more time for the trains.  Still, I make the best of what I have.

I've been retired for 6 years now but I still work 2 days a week. It's all what you make it. I spend a lot of time working around the house, cooking, music, and trains. After a wile you kind of get tired watching your trains go around and around. You need some friends to enjoy the hobby with. Going to train shows and running your trains with your friends on their layouts is a lot of fun. Looking forward to and going to York with my train buddies is always a good time. Once you retire you will find a whole bunch of non-trains things to do and that will keep you away from the hobby, but after the break it is great to run your trains again.

I retired (went on disability) about 7 years ago due to medical reasons.  The part I like is I can go to the weekday train shows (like York on Thursday and Friday) , when I'm up to it, without having to make my boss mad cause I ask for a day off.  Can work on train stuff  any time I like.

 

Our house is paid for and the kid is grown and married (no grand kids yet).  No dependents other than a few pets.  My wife still works and has her own money so any train purchases I make come out of my pocket not hers or ours.

 

Sometimes, I think it would be nice to work 1 or 2 days a week but then I come back to reality.  These days WORK is a 4 letter word in my book.   LOL

 

Rick

I too am retired. Some advice:

1. Plan on diminishing physical ability. Make all improvements with future disabilities in mind. Think about being in a wheel chair for some time. (even two weeks can be a challenge). Have one entrance to your house with no steps and at least one bedroom on the ground floor. 

2. Have more than trains as a hobby, one hobby whatever it is will not work forever, diversify. Have indoor hobbies and outdoor hobbies. Two of my friends were big fishermen, two years into retirement they did not even own a pole. Health issues eliminate golf for many people.

3. Develop your interest in hobbies before retirement.

4. Buy expensive items while you are still working if you want to but retirement often brings surprises, hence a big boat in a nearly dry area. Trains tend to evolve to the more detailed as people get more into the hobby, make your purchases accordingly. 

5. Grand kids are nice but don't be a free babysitting service unless you want to be. Two hours drive from each house can help this.

6. However much income you have going in to retirement you will spend more than you mean to. Plan accordingly. Government COLA (cost of living allowance) does not cover all the price increases.

6. Make sure you are within easy range of a major hospital. Hospitalization is inevitable and you don't want to be a days drive from your hospital.

7. Don't think of the one with the most toys wins, think the one who enjoys them the most wins.

7. Enjoy yourself and don't take things to seriously. You should be finished with acquiring wealth.

 

Douglas

 

MNCW

I'm glad you're looking forward towards retirement.  Don't know any of your "details", (family situation, kids or parents to provide for, pension or self funded retirement,  etc..) but I'd like to give you the same advice I gave others when I was retiring at the end of 2010.  How close are you?  Seven years is too long to spend "thinking" about retirement.

Plan for it by funding 401K or 457 plan.  Enjoy work when you can and look forward to you're next vacation.  Hopefully the time will fly bye and you'll be ready when the time comes.

 

All the best, Bruce

 

I remember the SVC board.

 

Originally Posted by TP Fan:

I too am retired. Some advice:

1. Plan on diminishing physical ability. Make all improvements with future disabilities in mind. Think about being in a wheel chair for some time. (even two weeks can be a challenge). Have one entrance to your house with no steps and at least one bedroom on the ground floor. 

2. Have more than trains as a hobby, one hobby whatever it is will not work forever, diversify. Have indoor hobbies and outdoor hobbies. Two of my friends were big fishermen, two years into retirement they did not even own a pole. Health issues eliminate golf for many people.

3. Develop your interest in hobbies before retirement.

4. Buy expensive items while you are still working if you want to but retirement often brings surprises, hence a big boat in a nearly dry area. Trains tend to evolve to the more detailed as people get more into the hobby, make your purchases accordingly. 

5. Grand kids are nice but don't be a free babysitting service unless you want to be. Two hours drive from each house can help this.

6. However much income you have going in to retirement you will spend more than you mean to. Plan accordingly. Government COLA (cost of living allowance) does not cover all the price increases.

6. Make sure you are within easy range of a major hospital. Hospitalization is inevitable and you don't want to be a days drive from your hospital.

7. Don't think of the one with the most toys wins, think the one who enjoys them the most wins.

7. Enjoy yourself and don't take things to seriously. You should be finished with acquiring wealth.

 

Douglas

A ton of wisdom and good advice here.  Seriously.  Especially #6.   We went through this with my Father-In-Law recently and it was a real nightmare.  A lot of people never consider it, but I sure will.   My own father passed away a few years back from complications of COPD - he was in the hospital a LOT for the last few years, but because there were good hospitals and doctors close by, it was much easier to bear.  

 

My father in law was only sick for a few months up to his death, but the logistics of the whole ordeal really tore us apart.   

 

Words to live (and plan) by indeed...

 

(Not train related but as close to a good public service announcement as you are likely to find)

Tom,

    I have never had a train to do list, I was lucky enough to have a family tradition of O Gauge trains at Christmas time.   Always wanted to set up a nice size layout so I did after retiring.   For a little over 10 years I had a real nice multi level layout, that took up a lot of my game room and most of my home office.  Like Pappy my advise is to do what you like, do not procrastinate when you reach retirement age, the fact is most men end up with major health problems sooner than they think, in my case Agent Orange put me down with a major heart attack, that I was lucky enough to fully recover from.  I enjoy my multi level living room layouts more than ever now, and they seem to stay up from just after Thanksgiving, till around mid February.  I really like the guys and gals here, the OGR has kind of turned into my 2nd home.  In the near future I would like to make it over to York to meet Barry, Guns and MartyE, Marty F, RJR and all the reset of the nice people I talk with here all the time.  Retirement life seems to go buy 10 times as fast as when I was working as a Special Agent or as a Professional Engineer.  I truly love my life now and hope every man and woman get to live the retirement life God has granted me and my wife.  Live your retirement for all it's worth. 

PCRR/Dave

 

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My wife and I are so very blessed to have retired with our health.

 

The only thing I can add is exercise a lot. Whatever your health or age, walk a lot, jog if you can and lift weights if you can. Better yet a sport. There are a lot of old fart leagues. The exercise will add years to your life, but more importantly, you will feel so much better for so much longer.

 

Believe me I know it can be a drag, actually it is a drag to go to the gym, but man you'll be so surprised with the results and benefits.

Plan to retire in 3-4 years.  Starting a new layout so I want to buy all the big stuff for it while I am still working.  Yes, once I am retired, i won't be buying $1000+ locos any more!  Got more trains now than I have room to display them.  Looking forward to spending more time with the trains, playing my guitars, catching up on all those TV shows i don't have time to watch!  

I retired in 2006 ("WHEW" 9 years already). I use to work on the trains for a couple of hours & then have to get ready for work. (evenings & nights). Now there's no rushing to get it done. There's always tomorrow. I drove for 30 years at UPS & said when I retired I never wanted to see snow again so I went to Hawaii on Dec. 1st each year & came back in April. Unfortunately the last 2 years have been a little tough physically. In 2013 I had a kidney removed & Dec.2014 had emergency gall bladder surgery to remove it. Had to cancel Hawaii both years. So this winter I get to enjoy  3' of snow outside & bone chilling cold.

Even with all this retirement is great. I'm fortunate enough to be able to buy trains when ever I want but more importantly I'm upright & I'm thankful for that.

I'm almost 73, and have been retired since I was 55. Model trains play a small role in my life, although I have 3 small layouts year 'round. My wife and I travel between our house near Philadelphia and our beach cottage in Lewes, Delaware. We are now in Ft. Lauderdale for 2 weeks, and in April we will be on a river cruise in Europe. We have been fortunate in life, but we are not rolling in money (we drive a 3 year-old Chevy and a 15 year-old Acura, plus I stay at the Rodeway during York). I watch almost no TV, but read 2-3 library books a week. I collect stuff (currently vintage tin sand pails) and I'm active with archery and the "shooting sports" in general. 10 grandchildren provide another source of amusement.

I am 62 and plan to retire at 65 when Medicare kicks in (I have no coverage for medical in my retirement plan). I've worked 40 years at the same company which has changed names 10 times. I'm ready to retire!  I have enough hobbies to keep me busy in retirement. I plan on spending more time at my train club, build models, play chess, read more, fish etc. More than enough not to get bored.

Let's see... I retire in roughly...

 

115 days !!!!!!!!!!!!

 

... Not that I'm counting...

 

After years of the kids and wife using the basement as a warehouse for their treasures, I am finally a work-in-progress on the layout!

 

The 4th of July is going to be a great weekend (and a real long one).

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I plan on retiring in two years, at sixty-two. My father never hand a chance to retire. He died at sixty-two, worked hard all his life since he was a kid. I won't be wealthy, but I'll have enough to get by. My wife is a seven years younger than me, so she'll be working a few more years. I got into this hobby a year ago, and I'm still working on my layout. I don't let anything get me down anymore. I'm enjoying life with my family and being happy with living everyday.

To answer the original question, you get to do as much as you want. Of course, other issues pop up that re-prioritize things. And that's not saying things get bad.

 

I took early retirement (57) 4 years ago. My wife and I had a whirlwind courtship, engagement, then marriage, and we got pregnant 4 months after marriage. I always said I'd retire early because we didn't have the together time pre-family when we were younger.

 

I read an article a few years ago that talked about the 3 phases of retirement: The Go-Go's the Slow-Go's, and the No-Go's. The Go-Go's are obviously the younger ones, still a bit flush with cash, who want to travel, play sports, etc. The Slow-Go's are the next group - still active, but maybe only take 2-3 trips a year. And, of course, we all get to the point where we become No-Go's.  EVERY retired co-worker with whom I've talked has lamented that they did not punch out earlier. They all said they could tell they'd become more Slow-Go.

 

Now, this next part, please understand I am not a banker, broker, or investment geek. I believe in mutual funds, not stock picking. This is not investment advice. In the same article about the 3 phases, there was discussion about "reality retirement" planning. Google it.  Look for a paper by Ted Bernicke.  In it, he uses empirical data from the US Depts of Commerce and Labor to demonstrate that we gradually reduce our spending year after year. Yes, some areas go up, but others go down. The whole purpose of the article is that the "traditional" retirement advice is to start with some value, then add inflation to it every year, not take more then 3-4% out, etc., such that if you draw 30,000 now, you'll need to draw 180,000 (being facetious) in 20 years. The data prove (and also correlated to my own parent's & in-law's spending) that you spend less each year. In my 4 years, I've also spent less each year. We eat out frequently, and take about 8 trips a year (OK, so with an airline pilot son, we get free flights) with rental cars and hotels.

 

The main thing is to have a project or some reason to get out of bed.  I built my own full-sized airplane; several mornings, I'm off to the airport to either fly or polish it, or just to sit and BS with the guys. When the weather's bad, I have my trains. Still working on the layout and scenery. Always something to be done. And, in the perfect days, I'm usually outside walking or doing yard work. Over the past year, I've had some sciatica issues, and have slowed-down more than I'd like. Fortunately, that seems to have passed for now, and I'm Thankful for that. Great timing with spring just around the corner.

 

Lastly, getting back to the original question - I do the same things I did pre-retirement; they just take longer to do. Whereas I used to cram yardwork, car-washing, and other family chores into Saturday, now it's more like I'll walk through the house on the way to do yard work and - Hey, Look! Sky King's on!!  And so it goes....

I'm 67 now. I was not in the hobby until I retired in 2006. I started slowly with a small layout.

After my other hobbies Shooting, Harley's, RV's and traveling started to have the (BEEN there DONE that) feeling I changed to something a little more home bound .TRAINS. Since that 1st train Some would say I have went a wee bit nuts with the hobby. But at this time in my life it's a perfect fit.

 

It and the shooting range are my favorite now. That also means I have a lot more time to devote to the Family. That's a good thing I think.

 

Oh, I still have one Harley, I'll never not have at least one.

 

Larry

I will be 61 this year. I have arbitrarily set age 66 as the time I will retire.  I have no particular reason for that other than I felt like I needed to have a target date to look forward to. I've worked with a financial planner for years and feel pretty good about preparations that we have made.  One of these days I will work with him to figure out if 2021 is a realistic goal.  In the meantime I have decided that I will practice for retirement in small ways.  Anytime that I work on my collection, run my Pre War American Flyer trains, read about trains or toy trains, spend time on internet sites about trains, plan my next acquisition or pursue some other interest; I call that time spent "practicing for retirement".  There is a group of guys that gather at a local coffee shop on Thursday mornings to chat (many of them retired -the oldest is 90).  The one thing that connects them all is that they have some interest in trains: real, toy, model, historical. Its a great group and the conversation is always lively, and many folks bring stuff for  "show and tell".  There are usually 8 -15 guys who show up.  Once every two months I make a point of being there to "practice for retirement.  I am still working full time and enjoying retirement in small segments.  It works quite well for me.  In real retirement I hope to be able to find a way to actually display my collection, which I consider to be a research library dedicated to American Flyer trains, rather than have many of them in boxes. Other than that my plan for retirement is to remain as flexible and nimble in body, mind, and spirit as I can so that I can enjoy each day.

 

Greg

I'm inside 4000 days; officially 565 weeks from now. It's like being a 1st grader watching High School seniors graduating.

 

WHEN I retire, I fully expect to continue with all of my hobbies including Boating, Golf, Hunting, Cars, and Model Railroading. I have activities in all areas to occupy my time year-round.

 

For now, work and do what I can, when I can.

 

Gilly

All great advice!

 

As Tom asked in the initial question, I too have 7 1/2 years before I am 66 and can collect full Social Security. That is the plan, however I could find myself retired or semi-retired before that.  If the company I work for gets bought, I would probably be pushed out.  My work is with old technology, so finding another job at similar pay may not happen.  Both my wife and I have had health issues, and could find health pushes us out of work early.

 

With that in mind, we are consciously buying bigger ticket items now.  For my hobby, that means locomotives, power, and track.  And I don't mean many either.  Just enough to run some trains in a 12 x 12 room.  I am trying to find the right fit for me in O gauge, since I only started in O gauge about 3 years ago after over 40 years in HO.  I sold all that to help pay our daughters' tuition.  So I started in O at the ground floor money wise.  If I have a small budget in retirement, I will have enough that I can still run trains.  I do have other low cost interests that take varying degrees of physical activity, so I think I am doing well.

 

Watching how my dad has managed retirement has been a good example.  He retired at 22 years ago, and is now 84.  He has good health but part of that has to do with staying active but knowing how to pace himself.  He and my mom who is the same age have paced themselves well financially, considering only he worked, and at skilled labor wages.  Dad was a good example as a young father, and he still is today.  I have been blessed.

I could retire next January, at age 56, but due to the fact that I like to eat three meals a day, will probably keep on working until my 62nd birthday.

 

When I retire, we will have my social security, my pension, my wife's pension, and my retirement savings.  Two years later, her social security will kick in.

 

With the house paid for, as well as my daughter's college loans paid off, I figure that we actually will have more disposable income that we have now. 

 

Hope to move someplace where I no longer have to worry about the cold weather keeping us inside the house. I'm trying to convince my better half that we should consider the Pacific Northwest.  Been driving her nuts the last week, by telling her that while we have had single digit temperatures, it has been around 50 degrees in Seattle!

 

Jim

Originally Posted by jd-train:

 

Hope to move someplace where I no longer have to worry about the cold weather keeping us inside the house. I'm trying to convince my better half that we should consider the Pacific Northwest.  Been driving her nuts the last week, by telling her that while we have had single digit temperatures, it has been around 50 degrees in Seattle!

 

Jim

 While the Pacific NW is a beautiful area, and the weather can be mild, be aware that you will have to get used to many days of rain. Like the old saying goes "residents don't sunburn...they rust".

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 Originally Posted by Happy Pappy:

Well Tom,

My list was long. It covered two complete prewar layouts, one Std Gauge and one O-Gauge.

It took me twenty-five years after retirement. I'm grateful and very blessed to have retired early. Now I'm a shut-in with advanced Parkinsons. I cannot do much anymore. Both layouts were sold complete with accessories. At least I have a few trains left on my shelves to admire.

My advice to anyone who will listen. Start as soon as you can as you never know what's waiting down the road.

 

"Pappy"

Pappy,  you have hit the proverbial nail squarely on its head.   Unfortunately quality of life for any human being can change in a millisecond.  You think everything is hunky dory then blooey everything changes.  I must admit that I have been blessed and thank God every morning and night for my good fortune.  I am 67 years old and have been retired for a little over 17 years.  I was a criminal investigator with the U.S. Treasury Department and was ever so fortunate to be able to retire at age 50 after 28 years service.  I made up my mind when I hung up the holster that I was going to keep the pedal to the medal every hour of every day for as long as I could because I knew things could change quickly.  Consequently,  I have been able to enjoy hunting, fishing, hiking, cycling as well as my beloved Grandchildren and trains since I retired.  Things are  changing now that the ravages of age have begun to rear their ugly head in the form of a rickety spine and advanced arthritis so I am slowing up but I continue to push myself as much as possible.  I am fully aware that the days of being able to do just what I wanted to are closing fast.  Like I said I have been blessed because things didn't change for me in a split second but rather over time so I have had the opportunity to emotionally adjust.   

I believe that a person should take the time to ensure that he or she enjoy every minute of every day and do everything they can to get the most out of life whenever possible.  In essence, take retirement by the scruff of the neck and squeeze every bit of life out of it that you possibly can.  So, as Sean Connery said in the film The Untouchables, "So endeth the lesson."        

I retired at 55 last May after 37 years on the railroad. Started right out of High School. The job was an adventure. Loved it 90% of the times. Dealing with derailment, and injuries and the normal BS that comes with being a supervisor accounted for the other 10%. 

 

I had a layout for 25 years, and sold majority of it off before we moved back to NC. The wife said "I spent the last 24 years in the cold and snow of NW Ohio, you are going to spend the next 24 years at the beach!" I am now stating a Carpet Central and enjoying that very much. 

 

I have a good friend who is a banker and has made sure I have enough resources to retire. We use to trade quotes and messages back and forth. A couple I remember:

 

"No one ever wished they had spent more time at work" 

 

"Make the most of the day, make it count, cause you will never get it back"

 

He also had me do the following:

 

Make a list what you want to accomplish before you retire.

 

Now make a list of what you want to accomplish when you retire.

 

Best two lists I ever made. You will be surprised in two ways, how much you get done and how much other stuff comes up.

 

7.5 years will be here before you know. Enjoy life, enjoy what you do. Make it day count. We are never promised anything.

 

Gene

 

Gene

 

 

I retired in January 1992 and immediately proceeded to build an "airborne" 5-track, twin shelf, 14x32 operation in the 18' high kitchen/breakfast room of our Mountain retirement cottage and much to the Domestic CEO's delight moved track up off her Den carpet.

 

I was able to run trains by the end of February 1992 and for 15 years this became my principal O-gauge operation until March 2008 when I dismantled it in contemplation of a health-related move to our Condo in Greensboro.

 

In 1997 when we were living in the Mountains we had sold our "empty nest" Greensboro home in favor of a nearby Condo as a future "final abode", I had immediately built a 15x23 layout upstairs in it and had it wired for railpower operation by mid-1997,[ but no scenery, structures ,etc]. However until '08 we continued living and railroading in the Mountains. Unfortunately as my wife developed more serious health issues we were forced to relocate to the Greensboro Condo near better medical facilities..

 

In October 2009 I dismantled the upstairs 15x23 Condo layout in favor of a rehab/exercise/TV space for her, plus installing a stair lift.  I then moved down the hall to a 9x19 attic space where in February 2010 I built and wired for operation of a simplistic 9x16 round-the-wall layout. Unfortunately I only enjoyed running trains for a short time when at age 79 I developed a health problem that soon became disabling.

 

Since that time I have been up and down healthwise and done very little railroading or layout work[became a Forum "Groupie"]. However today at 83, although I am not exactly frisky and a workaholic, I am enjoying the best health in four years and beginning to visit the layout with a plan and a slow work agenda[very slow].

 

My message is to take care of yourself and build while you are able even if everything you plan for, your druthers, is not immediately possible. Building and running trains is where the fun is---dismantling layouts ain't.

 

 

 

  

 

Originally Posted by Dewey Trogdon

 

My message is to take care of yourself and build while you are able even if everything you plan for, your druthers, is not immediately possible. Building and running trains is where the fun is---dismantling layouts ain't.

 

 

 

  

 

Dewey,

   Sounds like a very good plan for the rest of us. Glad you feel good enough to get back to thinking about the layout.

 

Tom

 

I can tell you it takes a LOT of planning. I've been into a few hobbies over the years and collected trains as a nest egg. I found in recent years I have lost interest in the layout thing. I enjoy buying basket cases and bringing them back to life and making a few bucks selling them.

 

I am about 3 or 4 years out yet, but I have been working on liquidation slowly. I was going to put this off for a while longer, but changed my mind after a cross country driving trip which was in part a search for someplace to retire. I had been selling one of my collectables for 5 years already and selling the duplicate trains for the past 2 years. I can tell you this, you collected and gathered them over a long period of time, and if you want to do well when selling them, expect to take just as much time to sell them off.

 

I have set aside a few items that were my favorites with the idea that I'll probably display them for the most part. My "keepers" pile will shrink before the big day arrives. Who knows, maybe everything will go. The time factor is critical as I mentioned above. Do not wait until the last minute, start liquidating early unless you want to just dump them to a dealer or consign them to an auction and take what you get. While on our trip we found a place we liked a lot and some land that was ready to build on. But we were not ready financially. That is when I realized I need to kick this into high gear now and be ready sooner. Its a lot of time and hard work, but it is paying off nicely. My investments have for the most part paid off. Its interesting to see what sells fast for good money and what languishes waiting for a buyer. I was surprised more than once.

 

I still have a long way to go. My trains and train related stuff are only a few of what I have money tied up into and everything must go. In the end, I want to have paid cash for my retirement home, or at worse case have a very very small mortgage so I can afford to live off my SS and pensions. I plan on escaping the rat race and settling someplace tranquil, maybe do a little farming, take some trips in the car.

 

 

I'm 66 [last Dec.] looking to retire in four years so I get the most from SS, Wife is four years younger than I, with some back problems, she teaches preschoolers. We both love our jobs but time is coming to back off, specially the wife having to keep up with the little ones. One of our son's and his wife and two Kids lives with us, He says I will never retire because I work with my hobby. I guess he thinks I don't know how to use a phone or the internet to stay in touch. Time for him to stop free loafing on us [he only has a part time job and the wife just lost her part time job, but was going on an interview today]! Now I am trying to get our finances in line so we can get on a wait list [2-3 yr.] to get into a cottage [with a basement] in a retirement community and down sizing. Even if we don't get on the list for the cottage we will have to move to a cheepper place [less upkeep to the Approx. 100 yr. old Sears prefab house and less taxes]. If we get the cottage I will have time to build a lay-out in the basement and maybe start a community club plus time to do some reading. If we don't get the cottage and we have to buy another house all bets are off time wise! Trying to buy about a dz. peices to fill in missing spots in my collection before the money runs short. 

I retired eight years ago at 62. Luckily I worked for a good company that worried about their employees even after retirement. Once a year for three years before I retired a counselor would come out and we talked about options. One of the most important things she kept saying is don't retire and move all at once. It takes awhile to adjust. I traveled all the time on my job, that alone was a big change. Just sitting down on a nice sunny day and reading a book was a challenge. As for the layout, I worked on it about the same as when I was working. If I feel like working on the layout I do. When we finally did move, we took our time finding the right house and location. I took up other hobbies. Scuba again, kayaking but no golf even though we are surrounded by courses. I thought frankly I would be working on the layout more but I think I do better work when I'm in the mood to create something. Retirement is good. Keeping active is great. Helps keep you young. Don

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Lots of good advice to take away from this thread.

 

I have been very fortunate (and lucky) to be retired for 10 years now.  

 

Based on my retirement experiences I'd like to offer some interesting things that I have encountered upon retirement.

 

- It seems like I had a lot more time to do things when I was working. Now that I am retired there are just not enough hours or days in the week to accomplish what I would like to. I still haven't figure that one out

 

- It seems that the amount of time I think a project would take actually ends up taking

2-3 times longer and costing  2-3 times more than I thought.  Plan for that.

 

- For some odd reason, working on the layout, or any other project for that matter, gets harder and takes longer with each year. As they say time catches up with every one so don't put off starting the layout. I found that out the hard way.  

 

- The best thing I learned when I retired and got back to model trains was  to be content with what I had or could afford with the space I had.  Don't get sidetracked from the fun by getting cranked up over the ever present threads about high prices, low quality, accuracy, orange, purple, etc, etc.  That is not to say there isn't some merit to some of these discussions, just don't let it get in the way of enjoying your trains.  

 

For me, even in spite of all the medical setbacks, retirement and model trains are still the greatest things since sliced bread.  Hopefully it will be the same for you.

 

Ed 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I just retired last June at age 60.  I was a late bloomer and returner to model railroading.  I am in the process of building my first layout.  For me, I'm glad I waited to build my layout. It actually gave me time to design it and buy most of the materials, track, power, locomotives and rolling stock ahead of time.  This way I am just taking my time...and enjoying other things like my wine cellar, photography, fly-fishing, working out at the gym on a regular basis, home projects, my grandchildren, my wife...and...being a housewife!   

I also have 6.5 years to retire: Another two-three years of intense work, then 3+ years of less than full-time.   If all goes according to plan, or at least close to plan.

 

I have two O-gauge layouts that I am (slowly) working on: one is 6.5 X 12 rectangular, the other is 8 X 12 "L" shape, which will carry me to retirement.   Then, I will have an option to build an 11 X 20 layout cannibalizing at least one of the smaller layouts, but we shall see.   But my wife and I plan more travel, and camping so I will have other things to enjoy.

 

Besides getting our finances in order, I am working on getting myself in shape so that I will last for a while make the most of retirement.   We are also trying to work-in some travel and adventure and fun times now, not knowing what the future may bring. 

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Retired 5 years ago, spent a lot on money on a couple of RTR Trains and a Vision line Hudson, plus a ton of track and 8, 036 switches that don't fit my  072 and 084 track plans.

 

In short plan a little, I did not plan at all, just jumped in but I have had a BLAST building and changing as the layout continues to grow.

 

Told the wife last year that the VL Big boy would be the last purchase for a couple of years, did not realize that the upper deck to run 084 track would cost 600. O well live and learn

 

Brent

UPDATES?--I started this thread over 2 years ago and I believe there are at least 2 posters that sadly are no longer with us. 

I was wondering if any of the original posters who were close to retiring have done so and how it worked out...or if anyone else now has the retirement clock getting close to that lucky day yet? I hope I am in the 4.5 to 5 year window now.  

Tom

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I retired eleven years ago and have lived in our new home about six of those years. My last layout took me eight years but I didn't quite finish it. The new one is going to take me longer. Not only is it twice as large but we don't have real winters here and there's just so much to do. I took up scuba diving again and we kayak many times a week. When all this is three blocks from the house it's hard not to be outside. I can work on the layout anytime I want but it's hard to do when the weather is so beautiful most of the year. I seem to work on it for a week straight then lay off for a week or two. The water is super clear right now so I know Monday I'll be diving again.  Don

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I retired fully at 62 in January, and I never looked back or thought about going back to work. I've been going back and forth between slot cars and trains, and so I'm getting tired of taking things apart and putting them together again. I made a decision to go back to my o scale train layout and go with the MTH DCS Wifi system. I've been very impressed with the system, so when I get back from vacation at the end of the month, I start working on my new layout. The key for me in retirement is always having to look forward to the next day with something to do that has meaning in my life. 

I still work at age 70 and most likely will never retire. This will be my 53rd year in the industry I started with. It can be hard at times because of my age  but it is also uplifting being with people much younger then yourself.

As long as possible I will continue working.  But most of all I will keep volunteering at the local VA helping those who can't help themselves. 

I'm still playing and building my trains. 

Dave

Very interesting everyone...A good mix of different stories of mostly happy retirements or David1/Dave opting to not retire... except for Steamer/Dave's grandfather. The latter is the type of outcome that is pretty sad, working all your life and on the verge of retiring or recently retired and then the person passes away. That's one of the reason's I hope to get out as close to 62 as possible. 

Tom 

I'm 74 and have been retired 12 years. You retire because your old and with that comes getting tired a lot sooner than before. I spend too much time with newspaper reading breaks but I want to read the paper.

I did work pretty hard on my layout and other things the 1st several years of retirement but after fretting all my working life about not enough time for my hobbies it has become so easy to just murder time.

I still plug away at it but slowly, I now wonder if I ever will finish my layout.  Plus I recently have taken up slot cars and have the hots to build a slot car track. Completely separate from my trains.

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Tom, that's a good move. SS is only about 3% more per year for the three extra years you work. Wow, 9% for three years of your life. Don't get me wrong, I loved my job. I had a grand time for 36 years. Some people aren't cut out to retire. I understand that. I have coworkers that hate retirement but that's because they had no outside interests when they were working. We all are lucky we have railroading and other interests. Every model railroader I know has other hobbies or interests, some of them connected to trains. Photography, model building or joining a club. It's the type of people we are. Good luck to everyone when you retire. Don 

I retired in 2014 at age 69-1/2 after a 46-year career in aerospace engineering with some well-known companies and colleges. I had wanted to build a new layout for ten years prior to retirement and now have been working on it for more than three years. Glad that I have model railroading and several other interests (including the OGR forum) to keep me busy. No regrets about retirement - but feeling like I'm old is more problematical.

MELGAR

I reach retirement age in nine years. I very likely will not quit working until much later than that. My Dad is still running the family farm at 82 and my mother just retired as a music and voice teacher at 80! My stepfather is a university professor and still teaching full time at 81!

I've already made massive changes to my train hobby. Like many folks,my eyes are not what they used to be (Cataracts) and I've developed Rheumatoid arthritis in my hands. I've sold off most of my modern era trains except for about 20 large steam locomotives. I'm now focusing on original Prewar Lionel,Flyer and Ives - O gauge and standard. I've also had my interest in postwar Lionel rekindled. It's just easier for me to service and handle. The lack of fussy electronics and use of the best materials money could buy to make these trains gives me peace of mind knowing that they will last for many more years. Another big point that I point out to visitors is that these trains represent the best years of American toymaking. 

" SS is only about 3% more per year for the three extra years you work."

 

It's 8% per each year you postpone retirement.  So if you start collecting at 70 instead of 62, you collect about 64% more dollars per month.  Not too many investments you can reliably earn 8% on annually, so postponing collecting until 70 makes good sense if you are in reasonable health and have other sources of income.  If your salary grows during those last years, your payment is higher than it would be earlier.  Most states don't tax social security benefits, so that additional 8% each year isn't subject to state income tax, and only 85% of it is subject to federal income tax.  Social security income is thus more valuable than other sorts of income due to lesser taxation.

Full retirement age of 66 is arbitrary.  If you retire at 62 you collect about 32% less and if you retire at 67 you will get about 8% more than at 66 and so on.  Just worth keeping in mind.  If you wait till 70 you collect 32% more than at your "full retirement" age.  That said, no use in waiting past 70 as there is no further increase in your social security income beyond that age.

 

Here it is from the federal horse's mouth:

 

https://www.ssa.gov/planners/retire/delayret.html

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I retired at 55, lucky me, I was a corporate energy banker and then a consultant," license to steal", and race car, Ford and Chevrolet driver. Now travel with my wife of 47  years, support my son and daughter in law and grand kids, as required, and play with my trains, my Z06 and my pattern planes and take a lot of great naps at age 69.

Was a sponsored rc onroad car racer in my late 40s and still drive my Z06 way to fast and fly way to low. Live in the sticks with a sign beside the front door with a 44 magnum on it stating," we don't call 911", and we mean it.

Ron H

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Maybe somebody mentioned this above - didn't read all of it - but I have found that productivity begins to nosedive, and not because of age.

I got more done when I worked, it seems, because I had to get it done when I could. Now - I can always do it tomorrow. So, much of it doesn't get done. But that's OK.

 

Gilly@N&W posted:

I'm inside 4000 days; officially 565 weeks from now. It's like being a 1st grader watching High School seniors graduating. 

WHEN I retire, I fully expect to continue with all of my hobbies including Boating, Golf, Hunting, Cars, and Model Railroading. I have activities in all areas to occupy my time year-round.

For now, work and do what I can, when I can. 

Gilly

WOW what a difference a few months make. Plans have been reset. When we left for Pinehurst in April this year, retirement was the last thing on my mind. Without going into details, events at work prompted me to visit a professional financial planner upon our return. Long story short; I turn 60 on 8/21/17, and the new retirement date is now 01/31/18.

As for my personal interests, nothing has changed. 

Can't wait, I'm counting the days.

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Just my kind of topic, I'm looking at a proposed retirement date of o/a 15 Oct 2017.  I'm containing my excitement because as a military retiree, I have been through lots of transition dates, and a  retirement, so the excitement -- I've tasted before.  There are lots of things to do, a house to put back in shape (due to the changes that occurred when they were building my train room), I have a Rottweiler, a Wife, Grown Children, Grandkids (not in the proper order, of course) I'm a Portrait artist and then there are a lot of agendas to fulfull with the trains.  I'm patiently waiting for the day when I can get up when I want to and get started.  MARSHELANGELO

Boomer posted:

I've already made massive changes to my train hobby. Like many folks,my eyes are not what they used to be (Cataracts) and I've developed Rheumatoid arthritis in my hands. I've sold off most of my modern era trains except for about 20 large steam locomotives. I'm now focusing on original Prewar Lionel,Flyer and Ives - O gauge and standard. I've also had my interest in postwar Lionel rekindled. It's just easier for me to service and handle. The lack of fussy electronics and use of the best materials money could buy to make these trains gives me peace of mind knowing that they will last for many more years. Another big point that I point out to visitors is that these trains represent the best years of American toymaking. 

Boomer, I think we have some things in common. I'm starting to get arthritis in my fingers and I have the early stages of Cataracts, too. One good thing about much of prewar and postwar, it is fairly affordable. 

To everyone who posted this evening, thanks and I'm glad I rekindled this topic. Lots of interesting responses which I hope will continue.

Tom 

MARSHELANGELO/Greg,

  First, "Thank you" for your service. My father was a Master Sergeant and served from before WWII and had a combined almost 50 years of service between Army and National Guard.

Two of his photos were used in this recent Army Pearl Harbor article:

https://www.army.mil/article/1...embering_the_tragedy

Good luck on your imminent retirement. Hope you come back and let us know how it is going.

Tom 

MELGAR posted:

I retired in 2014 at age 69-1/2 after a 46-year career in aerospace engineering with some well-known companies and colleges. I had wanted to build a new layout for ten years prior to retirement and now have been working on it for more than three years. Glad that I have model railroading and several other interests (including the OGR forum) to keep me busy. No regrets about retirement - but feeling like I'm old is more problematical.

MELGAR

Melgar, I've seen lots of your layout handiwork on Switcher Saturday, so I can say you have done well with that part of your retirement planning. 

Tom 

I turned 65 two weeks ago. That is milestone #1. I am now eligible for medicare. Since I don't get medical with my retirement plan, being eligible for medicare is a milestone for my retirement. My wife turns 65 in September 2018. October 1 2018 is my planned date for retirement. Looking forward to it.Last week I reached my 43rd anniversary of working for my company. I've been there, done that and bought the t shirt with all this company bull. The workplace is not what it used to be. I'm looking forward to having more time for my hobbies while I'm still healthy enough to enjoy them.  

At 55 I've got ways to go but I would certainly keep my hobbies going. Trains, golf, and fishing will keep me out of the bride's hair. My father-in-law retired at 54 (28 years ago), and has done NOTHING since. Been great babysitter but otherwise I don't know how he's kept his sanity all these years.

My youngest will be 13 next month so I figure 11 years till he's done with college (I get free tuition at my job) and I can start seriously planning. Unless Congress moves the goal posts again that is....

Bob

On the outside I am looking at 2.5 Years and on the inside 18 Months. I intend to make my train layout and displays my full time hobby starting late fall thru early spring here in the State College area of PA. Most likely take me that long to get the basement ready for the display shelves but not the layout it will start this winter I hope.

MNCW posted:

I was wondering how much train related stuff retirees get to do once they are retired...like what's your "Train To Do List" like? 

 

For those soon to retire, any big plans?

 

I need 7.5 years if all goes well. Seems like 750 years sometimes!

 

Tom 

My advice - enjoy everyone of those 7.5 years. Don't wish away your life. Trust me, it will go quickly enough. The limiting circumstances in every endeavor are time, opportunity, and resources. When you retire time and opportunity are easy enough. It is the money that is the limiting factor. I can spend ALL DAY every day working up in the "train room" on lesser projects. Bigger train events are limited to 3 or 4 a year. Most of those involve real trains. Overall, being retired is GREAT - but I did enjoy my job.

Ron H posted:

My wife and I are so very blessed to have retired with our health.

The only thing I can add is exercise a lot. Whatever your health or age, walk a lot, jog if you can and lift weights if you can. Better yet a sport. There are a lot of old fart leagues. The exercise will add years to your life, but more importantly, you will feel so much better for so much longer.

Believe me I know it can be a drag, actually it is a drag to go to the gym, but man you'll be so surprised with the results and benefits.

Can confirm.  I'm at the gym 2-3 times a week and spend a lot of time doing strenuous things on my bike.  Can't say I really enjoy it, but I feel so much better and my health is so greatly improved that I won't be giving it up.

I retired in 2010, and have never looked back for a moment.  I have plenty to keep me occupied, and for hobbies I have my trains and my rifles, to all of which I can now devote as much attention as I always wanted.  Retirement is great; I wish I could have done it sooner.

4 years to go......been in the automotive industry 30+ years...worked for the government...recently sold off some of my classic cars to help jumpstart my retirement and build my train room (finished this spring)...after moving into my last house, my trains have finally come out of hiding...I have built a descent sized garage behind my house, fix a car here and there to keep the trains running. my plan is to be in the train room every day (yeah right)...the closer I get to retiring, seems like less hours in a day.....that and grandchildren keep adding up like they are being cloned....so they suck up time too....but I aint complaining about them....pack them up with sugar and send them home. I'm still pinching myself that I have a large enough train room and a dedicated train repair shop at my house.....one day at a time...aint rushing nothing....

MNCW posted:
Boomer posted:

I've already made massive changes to my train hobby. Like many folks,my eyes are not what they used to be (Cataracts) and I've developed Rheumatoid arthritis in my hands. 

Boomer, I think we have some things in common. I'm starting to get arthritis in my fingers and I have the early stages of Cataracts, too. One good thing about much of prewar and postwar, it is fairly affordable. 

To everyone who posted this evening, thanks and I'm glad I rekindled this topic. Lots of interesting responses which I hope will continue.

Tom 

I didn't bother looking back to see what I wrote before. Probably something about an early retirement package and then working as a contractor at the same company. Crazy!

i have arthritis that is hindering me some and cataracts too.  If fact, I am seeing the eye doctor Thursday and probably get the cataracts removed soon.  At least that's what he said last time.  We will see what difference it makes. I have gone from far sighted to near sighted in a year or two.

Next year, I will be 62, and will check into Social Security, but probably have to keep working until 65.   Until then it looks like layout time will be limited with 4 elderly relatives we have to do various things for.  I will be happy to leave work for good after 41 years, but would rather my wife stop working.  Though she is almost 4 years younger, her health isn't as good as mine.

Michael Hokkanen posted:
My advice - enjoy everyone of those 7.5 years. Don't wish away your life. Trust me, it will go quickly enough. The limiting circumstances in every endeavor are time, opportunity, and resources. When you retire time and opportunity are easy enough. It is the money that is the limiting factor. I can spend ALL DAY every day working up in the "train room" on lesser projects. Bigger train events are limited to 3 or 4 a year. Most of those involve real trains. Overall, being retired is GREAT - but I did enjoy my job.

Michael, That is actually Great Advice...to enjoy every day! 

Many of us have also acquired some nice railroad libraries/reading materials over the years. I hope to not only have more time to operate, but to also have more time to read the things that I haven't had too much time for lately.

For those of us that are within a range of 5-7 years to retire (so, hopefully soon) and are getting anxious...you might like a book entitled, "How to Retire Happy, Wild and Free," by Ernie Zelinski. You can find it in the Money section of Barnes & Noble stores or on Amazon. Good common sense advice in there about how to deal with going from a regular 9-5 job (or whatever your shift was) to going cold turkey, etc. He mentions:

1)Gain Courage to take early retirement

2)Put money in proper perspective so you don't feel you need a million dollars to retire. 

3)Generate purpose in your retirement with meaningful pursuits (I take that to be train related things, although he does not mention trains at all). 

It is an easy to read, rather humorous book and I've already read it 3 times and enjoy it. 

Tom 

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Here is my sob story. I am 62 and just may win the contest for working at the same place the longest. For me, it is 45 years and counting. I started the day after high school graduation at 17 years old.

My wonderful Company re-allocated most of the "old-guys" pension plan into buying real estate and building buildings. My account got froze a number of years ago to an amount far less than I would have received at age 65. My pension plan is still guaranteed, I just never expected it to be terminated. Now I have to work longer just to catch up.

So, for me...I keep chugging away until I reach the golden year and any thoughts of retirement at 62 are long gone. I work for an "off shore" mega Company that loves to kick the old guys out before they leave gracefully on their own. I am counting my days.

As far as our hobby, I cannot complain. During the last 45 years, my wife and I raised two very successful boys and I have tried to always be busy. Like most guys my age, there are health issues to compound the process. However, I was able to build my layout to a point that is was the feature cover in RUN 255 and was also a feature story in that "other" magazine.

I also played a lot with restoration of classic cars along the way. But I gave that up as it was close to impossible to maintain both the toy train and car hobby anymore.

I am now working on a brand new layout.....I tore down the old one last summer and I have never looked back. This one is a lot larger but is also more "age gender appropriate".

My advice to all is too keep active, try to do something layout related everyday. Forget the fact that once you knee down it is an effort to get back up!!

For me. Three years to go!

Donald

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My countdown clock hit zero then started counting up. Its at 11 now and still counting. If you enjoy what you are doing its not work. I like my job and the people I work with. New challenges every day. Also a very liberal vacation policy. I feel fortunate. I have many outside interests beside trains so I could retire and still find things to do, not sure any of them would provide the same mental exercise though.

And Donald you are still three years behind me so I will have to retire before you can catch up.

Pete

Mark Boyce posted:
MNCW posted:
Boomer posted:

I've already made massive changes to my train hobby. Like many folks,my eyes are not what they used to be (Cataracts) and I've developed Rheumatoid arthritis in my hands. 

Boomer, I think we have some things in common. I'm starting to get arthritis in my fingers and I have the early stages of Cataracts, too.

i have arthritis that is hindering me some and cataracts too.  If fact, I am seeing the eye doctor Thursday and probably get the cataracts removed soon.  At least that's what he said last time.  We will see what difference it makes. I have gone from far sighted to near sighted in a year or two.

Looks like cataracts is a common problem. I had mine fixed a couple of years ago. For those who are thinking of having it done, it was easy and painless. They even improve your eyesight while they're at it.  

Pat Kn posted:
Mark Boyce posted:
MNCW posted:
Boomer posted:

I've already made massive changes to my train hobby. Like many folks,my eyes are not what they used to be (Cataracts) and I've developed Rheumatoid arthritis in my hands. 

Boomer, I think we have some things in common. I'm starting to get arthritis in my fingers and I have the early stages of Cataracts, too.

i have arthritis that is hindering me some and cataracts too.  If fact, I am seeing the eye doctor Thursday and probably get the cataracts removed soon.  At least that's what he said last time.  We will see what difference it makes. I have gone from far sighted to near sighted in a year or two.

Looks like cataracts is a common problem. I had mine fixed a couple of years ago. For those who are thinking of having it done, it was easy and painless. They even improve your eyesight while they're at it.  

Pat, Thank you for the great report!

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