Rivarossi C-Liner-Start from scratch

CentralFan1976 posted:
dPrasse posted:

Excellent !

Following !

Mind if I link this thread to my Fairbanks Morse Enthusiast group ?

Thanks!

and no, of course I would not mind; please forward ahoy!

PS-I am making a freight CFA20-4, so yes, the steam generator stuff had to go!

wink!

thanks,

Mario

Hah , I didn't fully read your post ... you caught my first post before I deleted it 

bwahahaha.  Must read entire post before commenting ....

Nice work Mario - it's inspiring!   Unfortunately your beautiful 3D printed grills and fans are coming into play years too late for my C-Liners.  Your posts did inspire me to share a 42 year saga related to Rivarossi C-Liners which I posted over on the 2 rail forum.

March on my friend - the hobby is in very good hands..

 

Ed Rappe           PRRT&HS 421

Keystoned Ed posted:

Nice work Mario - it's inspiring!   Unfortunately your beautiful 3D printed grills and fans are coming into play years too late for my C-Liners.  Your posts did inspire me to share a 42 year saga related to Rivarossi C-Liners which I posted over on the 2 rail forum.

March on my friend - the hobby is in very good hands..

 

I bet you, master modeler, could either get a new set to play with, and/or get the original ones cut out for the new grilles. 

Well see how they come out first, before I get you some to play with. 

Thanks!

Mario

Ed, are you sure you don't want to reconsider?

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For now, they're just stuck in there, without the frames. 

The idea is to glue them to the frames and then glue the frames to the inside of the shell. 

Thanks,

Mario

PS-here's more:

With inside frame:

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Radiator fan housing and screen:

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Dynamic brake fan screen:

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They looks great Mario.  If saw my backshop loaded with steam power awaiting paint and DCC you'd understand why I'll just have to live with the C-Liners as they are for now.  Meanwhile keep the posts coming - they are inspirational. 

Ed Rappe           PRRT&HS 421

Thanks...

Heres the test fit of the fans... 

I like the way the housings fit in the opening (drilled with a 3/4" hole saw bit), but the fan screen leaves a little to be desired. I think I'll put a 0.050" lip around the entire outside of the screen, so it can sit flush in the roof and fill any gap around the outside. This will also give us wiggle room for adjustments.

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...and before you say anything... no, I didn't use a drill press and it shows. 

Thanks,

Mario

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The fans are a really nice start, looking forward to seeing them with the lip.  

On really large holes I typically don't drill them full size but go smaller and use a tapered reamer.  It doesn't melt the plastic and you can do multiple test fits.

Tom, that's my own fault. 

I got inpatient and instead of starting it by hand to ensure that it was good, I used the drill and it drifted. 

I rimmed the offending hole with 0.030" styrene and I'll sand it flat with the others once I'm sure it's cured. 

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Still bummed... but that's what filler is for. 

As for the fan diameter, I'll have I check my CAD files, as I don't think I made them large enough from my initial measurements. 

Oh, and as for the lip, subsequent inspection shows that there wasn't any that was on top of the carbody. So flush it is...

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thanks,

-Mario

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More work...

I plated over the FM exhaust port. That's probably what they would have done, since it would have been the cheapest and easiest.

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Also used a hole punch to cut 1/4" discs from styrene. Then reamed out the hole from the cut off steam generator exhaust with a 1/4" bit, and forced them in place and glued and stacked and glued. 

It should sand down nicely. 

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Tom D. posted:

Have you thought about making a plug for one of the fan openings since most c liners only had 3 fans?

That is an excellent question...

I do realize this, and from what I can tell, it's the Canadian roads that I have seen with 3 radiator fans. 

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I don't know if any of the Central's CFA-20-44s had three fans, but considering how much of a pain it is to fill and sand (and fill and sand and repeat), I'd like to keep it as four. 

Also, notice the dual exhaust stacks and their forward location on the third roof hatch. 

 

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I think most the c liners had 3 fans at least the Pennsylvania and Milwaukee ones had 3. It's pretty daunting to think about closing one off, I was thinking if you made a plug that it might be easier if the plug was the correct basic shape.  I have no idea how hard that would be to create.

Strummer posted:
dPrasse posted:
Strummer posted:

In my opinion:

Like the Atlas/Roco F9 of similar vintage, this model can be a good foundation for "better things"...

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I picked this up, as is, on eBay for $11.50,   plus $11.00 shipping.  

Two motors, runs very well. Although the motors are small, I rather like the trucks self-contained feature: it keeps the entire interior pretty clutter free...

If any of you swapping over to 3 rail want dump your motors and wheel/axle sets, I'm interested. I need one pair for another project.

Mark in Oregon

Sorry I missed that one ! Hahaha she looks great ....proper PRR freight colors , unlike the way Rivarossi made them

mine will be , in the future , either Milwaukee Rd or Demonstrator colors ...

Yes, I got lucky with this one...and it's hand lettered, to boot! Will post some closeup photos, if anyone's interested.

Mark in Oregon

I'd enjoy seeing some close-up snaps...

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