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Well Santa's elves and Fed-ex must have been working overtime as I received my new GP7's  (and 2 PE cars) 2 days earlier than expected.

The Santa Fe GP7 is beautiful and responds perfectly to the remote. The electrocouplers do open wider than those on the AF SD70's and ES44's so using these type engines as a switcher is fun and easy to do. I had a few tiny paint nicks in the yellow on the handrails and a wee bit of paint creep from the blue to the yellow color on the engineers side of the front of the engine. I had some craft paint that matched perfectly and touched up all the nicks with a few dots of yellow color. The sound is a bit loud from the factory but it is easily changed by holding down the announcement button while turning the speed dial left for quieter and right for louder. The speaker sound quality is "OK " and it's doubtful there was any spare room inside the engine for a more robust speaker.

My UP GP7 is also a good runner with one nit to pick. For whatever reason when running short hood forward I can hear a "tick tick tick tick" sound from the wheels (rear truck I think) when rounding an r20 AF Fastrack curve. All my curves are r20. But....it doesn't do it on all of them...just maybe 6 or 8 out of more than 50 or so of them. Kinda sounds like the wheels may be touching some of the ties? That's a mystery. I put some gear lube on the gears and oiled all the axles so maybe it will quit soon. There were 2 tiny paint rubs on both sides of the short hood in the "Armour Yellow" color. I don't have a paint to match but I'm sure there's one out there. Sound was identical to the Santa Fe unit.

The thing I like best is now I can run two remote control smallish engines on my point-to-point switching track. While one engine is dumping logs into the log loader another can pick up barrels at the barrel loader on the same track at the same time.

The addition of these two engines now gives me 4 FlyerChief engines so it's time to heat up the Universal Remote and I'll be able to control 3 of them with one remote at the same time. Originally I thought the Android APP would be the way to control all the engines but then I found out you can only operate one engine at a time. You have to completely stop and disengage from the first engine to access another using the APP. Bummer. The Universal Remote is the way to go for now.

While I'm here I'll just mention the new PE cars. They are great! The add-on coach perfectly matches all the original cars as to paint color. You can see that the wiring has been upgraded so I don't expect any lighting/wiring problems with these new cars or the single bulb inside. Maybe next month I'll get around to changing the lighting over to LED like all my other PE cars so that they will all match. I also received the PE wood sided reefer. It is a neat car. As has been noted in many other posts these reefers don't have the detail of an SHS or MTH reefer but that's OK by me. This car will be my "Santa's Express Reefer" carrying all those perishable treats we receive at Christmas and will ride prominently as the first car behind the tender.

Well that's my report. How do you like your new FlyerChief GP7 engines?

Mark

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Hello,

FedX is definitely working overtime. I received my Chas. Ro delivery late yesterday morning. It arrived as we were leaving on a shopping trip so I did not get a chance to operate yesterday. This morning I opened the boxes and found as Mark mentioned a beautiful add on coach for the P.E. and a pretty nice looking P.E. refer. I also ordered the Santa Fe Blue Bonnet locomotive. I was a bit disappointed in the packaging of the engine, as I pulled its shipping box out of the larger box which the three items came, I tipped the box and heard the engine inside of the box go clunk, the box did not have the usual Styrofoam lid on it allowing the engine to float inside of the box, this may be the reason for some paint chipping as Mark mentioned. I ran the GP this morning and did notice some surging of the speed, that may go away with some break in time, I also notice the side frame on the power truck is a little cockeyed, high at the front and lower toward the rear. I ran the two cars behind the engine and did have them both derail a few times, checking the gauge of the wheels showed they will need some adjustment on both cars. The new P.E. coach will in the near future get the LED lighting as all of the rest of my P.E. cars have. Happy to have this before Christmas.

Merry Christmas to all

Ray

 

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As I said on another string mine arrived too.  It works great and pulled 20 Gilbert freight cars easily on Gilbert track and switches.  16 cars up the Gilbert trestle set on my layout.  21 cars is all I ever do as the weight pulls the cars off around the corners.

No rubs or scuffs on my UP version.  Very well done.

Mark, the manual on page 16 gives you a different way to adjust volume.  It doesn't work as written.  Your method of holding down the Shift/Announcement key does work. This should be noted to people so I have used red here.   

On the PE car the wires are longer to the trucks where they are soldered.  Earlier cars had shorter wires and that was part of the problem.  With shorter wires it pulled at the solder on every turn.20171218_150309

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I received mine too, the North Pole Central version just for running under the tree.  Runs well, sounds are good, electrocouplers actually perform intended function. Most impressive to me is the app. With the lionchief app I get almost almost all of the functions I make use of with Legacy engines.  I lose connectivity though when I am about 15 feet away.  A little annoyance on the app is that I do have to hold my finger on the slide bars for a while to get them to move.

I received my UP today and it has a broken roller on the rear truck. It does run that way but it has a lot of gear noise going forward and is silent in reverse. The blue tooth connection is VERY slow to respond. Has anyone compared the  Apple vs Android to see what worked better? I used Android......

I will be sending it back. No fun under the tree with it this year....

 

 

I have not done a comparison between the two but I have used the android app and it seemed to work fine, I would say definitely not slow. Because, though, I could only control one locomotive with the app I now have the universal remote, updated by some very nice Lionel Reps. That works very nicely with my three Flyer Chief locomotives.

Ray

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Mine had all kinds of varying issues. After close inspection i believe the screws on the trucks were not tightened all the way in the factory. (I found a screw on the track and then tightened the remaining truck screws , they were loose.) allowing the truck to arc on the track damaging the board. That's my working theory to explain how erratic it was acting. My replacement should be on the way. 

Mine had all kinds of varying issues. After close inspection i believe the screws on the trucks were not tightened all the way in the factory. (I found a screw on the track and then tightened the remaining truck screws , they were loose.) allowing the truck to arc on the track damaging the board. That's my working theory to explain how erratic it was acting. My replacement should be on the way. 

Thank you GREEKCHIEF, I checked the screws on the trucks on my GP, they were loose.,now my side frames are level. I did find one screw that was not holding at all, not long enough but I will replace it.

I will say the Railsounds on the GP is very loud, if the first run Berks had volume like these I would have never chaged the speaker.

Ray

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While some know I have more or less left S (I am keeping some fastrack and a few pieces of Flyonel) I did make that decision after I ordered the UP unit earlier in the year.  

I took delivery of it on Saturday, but just got around to running it tonight.  My thoughts;

I ran it with just the Bluetooth app, for me I don’t much see the use in the remote anymore.  

The paint was without flaw, I have seen a report or two of smudges, no issues with mine.  All the screws were pretty tight, I did maybe get a half a turn out of one, but I don’t think they would have come off without attention. The Railsounds were all good.  The locomotive functioned as advertised and the electro couplers actually released the attached car.  The packing is also an improvement in my opinion, this has a lid on the box like a shoe box, more in line with what you see in the high end HO world. 

My only negative, the motor noise was louder than I would have expected.  Both in forward and reverse. It is well  disguised when the rail sounds is turned up, but still, I have older Flyonel engines that made less noise. 

Considering the price point of this and it’s features....I give it a solid “B”.  

Ben 

Chuck K posted:

I received mine too, the North Pole Central version just for running under the tree.  Runs well, sounds are good, electrocouplers actually perform intended function. Most impressive to me is the app. With the lionchief app I get almost almost all of the functions I make use of with Legacy engines.  I lose connectivity though when I am about 15 feet away.  A little annoyance on the app is that I do have to hold my finger on the slide bars for a while to get them to move.

After about 20 minutes of run time, it's a different story. Two truck screws have fallen out. Threads are stripped and they will not stay in.  Also gear noise is very loud, esp. in reverse. It is emanating from the worm gear.  Lastly, because of the comments above, I checked the side frame screws. One is in at an angle and another has the hex head stripped and cannot be removed, a necessity when replacing the traction tires.  Off to Concord it goes.

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