Smoke motors for American flyer /Lionel engines.........

For anyone interested................You can purchase the little micro mini n20 DC motor for a lot less than Lionel replacement parts.  I found them on ebay for 1,90 each,   these motors are the same size that Lionel sent me.  Anyone one interested I'll be glad to help you get the correct ones.....

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-...p2060353.m2749.l2649

Here is the ebay page.........

these motors are 6 to 12 volts DC....I think Lionel list there's as 6 volts......I have gone thru a dozen lionels so anything is an improvement .....You will need to test each motor and determine polarity of each (you want it to run counterclockwise)   I used a 9 volt battery to do this......good luck

Jackie

 

 

I have been doing a little more research on these motors.....I first did a autsphoy of my lionel motors and discovered that most failed because one of the little metal brushes got to hot and failed......so I checked the new motors I bought on ebay and they have the same type of metal brush.....NOT GOOD,,,,  I then started to search for other types of motors and I found one.   Same size in every respect but they have Carbon brushes.  I have ordered some for testing purposes.......good chance this is the way to go...........

Jackie

 

billy jack posted:

Same size in every respect but they have Carbon brushes.  I have ordered some for testing purposes.......good chance this is the way to go...........

Any plans to share this source, or is it a secret?

billy jack posted:

Here is the place I purchased my motors.....

https://www.ebay.com/itm/10pcs...p2060353.m1438.l2649

jackie

If those measurements are correct, you have one little issue.  The spacing on a BE-0000041 smoke motor for MTH and Lionel is 8.5mm, I measured one of each. 

I looked at the specifications, they will really be screaming with 5V on them!

Specification: 

  • Motor Specifications: 10 * 12 mm
  • Motor Height: 15.5 mm (Without output shaft)
  • Output Shaft: 1.0 mm
  • Output Shaft Length: 6.5 mm
  • Voltage: 3 V
  • Current: 0.05 A
  • Speed: 15300 RPM
  • Voltage: 4.5 V (Recommended voltage)
  • Current: 0.06 A
  • Speed: 23000 RPM
  • Voltage: 6 V
  • Current: 0.07 A
  • Speed: 31000 RPM
  • Motor Weight: 6 g

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My first set of motors show the same spec, as the second purchase.   I installed a motor in a smoke unit for a Y-3 and it screwed in just fine......if you go to ebay and type in micro mini DC can motors you will find dozens of motors with different voltages......N20 is the size.....and like I said before I think carbon brushed motors are going to be the better motor.....I really like the brush end cap on this motor.  all this is based on my memory of my slot car days......

I am looking forward to testing these motors.....am I correct in saying that the smoke motor on challenger or y-3 is 6v?

Jackie

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